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		By: Travis Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2017 04:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quick question, was L. Ron Hubbard a huge jerk like David Miscavige? (ie beating on people, shoving people etc)]]></description>
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		By: Joetheta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joetheta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177627&quot;&gt;Joetheta&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; a grin so big 
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<p>&#8221; a grin so big<br />
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177520&quot;&gt;alcoboyy&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re welcome.  With no exaggeration, I have seen similar expressions on the faces of street urchin children in the 3rd World after being given a few coins. Utterly exhausted, utterly grateful... no one should look like that, ever.]]></description>
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<p>You&#8217;re welcome.  With no exaggeration, I have seen similar expressions on the faces of street urchin children in the 3rd World after being given a few coins. Utterly exhausted, utterly grateful&#8230; no one should look like that, ever.</p>
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		By: Joetheta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joetheta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177495&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I remember a young staff member at Flag always commented about my smoking a cigar ,and that he just can&#039;t afford them ,now that he&#039;s on staff training. So the next event ,I brought him 2 big fat  Romeo y Jullietts ( cigar brand). I never saw a grin do big.]]></description>
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<p>I remember a young staff member at Flag always commented about my smoking a cigar ,and that he just can&#8217;t afford them ,now that he&#8217;s on staff training. So the next event ,I brought him 2 big fat  Romeo y Jullietts ( cigar brand). I never saw a grin do big.</p>
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		By: PegCityPatrol		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PegCityPatrol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177535&quot;&gt;chuckbeatty77&lt;/a&gt;.

*Never in* Reading these couple comments makes me so sad to hear that these are considered joys and happy memories... :(]]></description>
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<p>*Never in* Reading these couple comments makes me so sad to hear that these are considered joys and happy memories&#8230; 🙁</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177568&quot;&gt;Notreally Myname&lt;/a&gt;.

and then... when we were all skilled in avoiding, &quot;the reg events&quot;, IAS, Ideal Org, &quot;Special Important Briefing!&quot;, they went and pulled a fast one on us... they started hauling out the white boards at the end of EVERY event, even the NY&#039;s, Birthday, May 9th events and so on.

NO event was safe.]]></description>
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<p>and then&#8230; when we were all skilled in avoiding, &#8220;the reg events&#8221;, IAS, Ideal Org, &#8220;Special Important Briefing!&#8221;, they went and pulled a fast one on us&#8230; they started hauling out the white boards at the end of EVERY event, even the NY&#8217;s, Birthday, May 9th events and so on.</p>
<p>NO event was safe.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 16:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177527&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Got it on all, Nancy.  I do find portions of LRH&#039;s tech workable and as such utilize them regularly in my business and personal life.  I say &quot;LRH&#039;s&quot; tech only in that I have not done yet the research which you and others have done that shows he lifted data from other sources and then claimed it as his own. That said, I have no doubt, really, that he did lift things from other sources and reworked them.   

But then, I don&#039;t have a problem with his having done that.  

My main concern about anything I use to get things done and to create the effects I want to create in my life is workability. 

&quot;Workability&quot; for me means it works for everyone, not just me.  

LRH put certain things together which are easy for me to read and apply.  They work and they help me and I rely on them.

If in so doing I&#039;ve been giving credit to him that he doesn&#039;t deserve, this is an issue I&#039;ll have to sort out at some later point.  In the meantime, I&#039;m not hurting anyone, I&#039;m only helping, and as such using &quot;the tech&quot; for good purposes.

That said, there is some LRH tech I would NEVER use in my business. 

For example,  I&#039;d SLIT MY THROAT before using ONLY statistics to make decisions and manage the people who work with and for me.  Slit my throat, I tell you!  If I&#039;d done that I would have lost my business 20 years ago!  Its insane!  Stats have their uses and the business benefits from them but to have them be the be all and end all...what a horror!

Which is why I really meant it when I said that anyone who served for ANY length of time in the Sea Org deserves a medal for every day in.  That was NOT hyperbole on my part!  

As a small business owner for the past 25 years, I get the shudders just thinking about what you endured.

And, last but not least, I am well aware that, having not known LRH personally, nor experienced his bad side personally, &quot;knowing&quot; him SOLELY thru his written words and lectures, its A LOT easier for me to be objective concerning him and the tech  than it would be if I had observed and/or experienced, via him,  abuse and injustice 

A LOT easier!

Frankly, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d be able to ever be objective, if I had observed or experienced what others have with regard to him.  Anyone who can be objective in spite of such damaging experiences has my admiration and respect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177527">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Got it on all, Nancy.  I do find portions of LRH&#8217;s tech workable and as such utilize them regularly in my business and personal life.  I say &#8220;LRH&#8217;s&#8221; tech only in that I have not done yet the research which you and others have done that shows he lifted data from other sources and then claimed it as his own. That said, I have no doubt, really, that he did lift things from other sources and reworked them.   </p>
<p>But then, I don&#8217;t have a problem with his having done that.  </p>
<p>My main concern about anything I use to get things done and to create the effects I want to create in my life is workability. </p>
<p>&#8220;Workability&#8221; for me means it works for everyone, not just me.  </p>
<p>LRH put certain things together which are easy for me to read and apply.  They work and they help me and I rely on them.</p>
<p>If in so doing I&#8217;ve been giving credit to him that he doesn&#8217;t deserve, this is an issue I&#8217;ll have to sort out at some later point.  In the meantime, I&#8217;m not hurting anyone, I&#8217;m only helping, and as such using &#8220;the tech&#8221; for good purposes.</p>
<p>That said, there is some LRH tech I would NEVER use in my business. </p>
<p>For example,  I&#8217;d SLIT MY THROAT before using ONLY statistics to make decisions and manage the people who work with and for me.  Slit my throat, I tell you!  If I&#8217;d done that I would have lost my business 20 years ago!  Its insane!  Stats have their uses and the business benefits from them but to have them be the be all and end all&#8230;what a horror!</p>
<p>Which is why I really meant it when I said that anyone who served for ANY length of time in the Sea Org deserves a medal for every day in.  That was NOT hyperbole on my part!  </p>
<p>As a small business owner for the past 25 years, I get the shudders just thinking about what you endured.</p>
<p>And, last but not least, I am well aware that, having not known LRH personally, nor experienced his bad side personally, &#8220;knowing&#8221; him SOLELY thru his written words and lectures, its A LOT easier for me to be objective concerning him and the tech  than it would be if I had observed and/or experienced, via him,  abuse and injustice </p>
<p>A LOT easier!</p>
<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d be able to ever be objective, if I had observed or experienced what others have with regard to him.  Anyone who can be objective in spite of such damaging experiences has my admiration and respect.</p>
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		By: Notreally Myname		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Notreally Myname]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 13:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I stopped attending events long ago and far away &#039;we&#039;re locking the doors and no one is leaving until we reach our donations goal&#039; (IAS Event). I slipped out the back door and never went back. The calls were answered with &#039;I have a prior commitment&#039;. One time I was coerced into saying &#039;maybe&#039; on an event confirmation call .... after THAT event I received a &#039;no report report&#039; for not showing up for the event. They never stopped calling, and I never again made any indication that I would attend and a would mention the &#039;no report report&#039; that had been written and therefore would not ever again say out loud that I might attend. When pressed, I would end the conversation with &#039;never give or receive communication unless you yourself desire it, I do not desire further communication in this matter, goodbye.&#039;  Never had a KR or any other report written on me for THAT tidbit I&#039;m pleased to say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped attending events long ago and far away &#8216;we&#8217;re locking the doors and no one is leaving until we reach our donations goal&#8217; (IAS Event). I slipped out the back door and never went back. The calls were answered with &#8216;I have a prior commitment&#8217;. One time I was coerced into saying &#8216;maybe&#8217; on an event confirmation call &#8230;. after THAT event I received a &#8216;no report report&#8217; for not showing up for the event. They never stopped calling, and I never again made any indication that I would attend and a would mention the &#8216;no report report&#8217; that had been written and therefore would not ever again say out loud that I might attend. When pressed, I would end the conversation with &#8216;never give or receive communication unless you yourself desire it, I do not desire further communication in this matter, goodbye.&#8217;  Never had a KR or any other report written on me for THAT tidbit I&#8217;m pleased to say.</p>
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		By: Terra Cognita		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terra Cognita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177477&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek: Thanks for the insight.]]></description>
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<p>Derek: Thanks for the insight.</p>
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		By: Nancy Many		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy Many]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2017 04:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177527&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Helen&#039;s book is a good read and I believe it is available on the internet now.  LRH&#039;s personality did not seem (to me) to change throughout the years.  After I was out I made a list of all the Scn things that I had found helpful to me,,, I researched and eventuallymound that they all had been taken from others.  And those sources had much more depth on whatever the subject was.

One shocker for me was finding the C.S.W. policy - word for word taken from a navel officers manual....literallycompletely taken and put his name on it.

Now that we have the internet,  should not be difficult for you to find where those things you liked truly came from.  
I used to own a first edition (i manuscript format) in which LRH thanked many many people for their contributions to the tech,, over the years that dwindled down to thanks to no one,,, it was only LRH...

nance]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-bestest-most-monumentalest-event-ever-ever/#comment-177527">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Helen&#8217;s book is a good read and I believe it is available on the internet now.  LRH&#8217;s personality did not seem (to me) to change throughout the years.  After I was out I made a list of all the Scn things that I had found helpful to me,,, I researched and eventuallymound that they all had been taken from others.  And those sources had much more depth on whatever the subject was.</p>
<p>One shocker for me was finding the C.S.W. policy &#8211; word for word taken from a navel officers manual&#8230;.literallycompletely taken and put his name on it.</p>
<p>Now that we have the internet,  should not be difficult for you to find where those things you liked truly came from.<br />
I used to own a first edition (i manuscript format) in which LRH thanked many many people for their contributions to the tech,, over the years that dwindled down to thanks to no one,,, it was only LRH&#8230;</p>
<p>nance</p>
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