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		By: The Dark Avenger		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-272659</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dark Avenger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2019 03:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269624&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Those Intensives won&#039;t pay for themselves, will they?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269624">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Those Intensives won&#8217;t pay for themselves, will they?</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

FP, even &quot;Xemu the Merciless&quot; and the &quot;Invaders of the Fifth Dimension&quot; showed up in a pulp comic years before Hubbard introduced Xemu/Xenu and the Fifth Invader Force:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/where-did-l-ron-steal-xenu-from.4655/

Except for, in some cases, relatively superficial details of form and presentation, pretty much everything Hubbard introduced had prior sources - plus in many cases it was others who actually came up with the material, such as Otto Roos for the Ls (under Fellowships):

Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/origins6.html

And please, spare us snide ad hominems about Atack (or Roos) - let&#039;s hear about substantive issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>FP, even &#8220;Xemu the Merciless&#8221; and the &#8220;Invaders of the Fifth Dimension&#8221; showed up in a pulp comic years before Hubbard introduced Xemu/Xenu and the Fifth Invader Force:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/where-did-l-ron-steal-xenu-from.4655/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/where-did-l-ron-steal-xenu-from.4655/</a></p>
<p>Except for, in some cases, relatively superficial details of form and presentation, pretty much everything Hubbard introduced had prior sources &#8211; plus in many cases it was others who actually came up with the material, such as Otto Roos for the Ls (under Fellowships):</p>
<p>Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology<br />
<a href="http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/origins6.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/origins6.html</a></p>
<p>And please, spare us snide ad hominems about Atack (or Roos) &#8211; let&#8217;s hear about substantive issues.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269785&quot;&gt;KatherineINCali&lt;/a&gt;.

ACTUALLY KatherineINCali, he should name the people LRH had declared or approved being declared (as THAT is what we were talking about up-thread) that HE had IJC undeclare.  And WHEN that happened.  

Unlike Fool I DID have access to that information and I could tell you what is what if he puts out the names  Which he won&#039;t because he cannot.]]></description>
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<p>ACTUALLY KatherineINCali, he should name the people LRH had declared or approved being declared (as THAT is what we were talking about up-thread) that HE had IJC undeclare.  And WHEN that happened.  </p>
<p>Unlike Fool I DID have access to that information and I could tell you what is what if he puts out the names  Which he won&#8217;t because he cannot.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2019 03:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-268646&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

FP —

For some odd reason, there isn’t a reply button on a couple of your latest posts to me. 

So I’m replying here. 

If people are flooding into orgs, why don’t you go to at least 3 or 4 of the orgs near you and take pics of all the people?? 

We’ll wait...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-268646">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>FP —</p>
<p>For some odd reason, there isn’t a reply button on a couple of your latest posts to me. </p>
<p>So I’m replying here. </p>
<p>If people are flooding into orgs, why don’t you go to at least 3 or 4 of the orgs near you and take pics of all the people?? </p>
<p>We’ll wait&#8230;</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2019 02:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269617&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

FP —

I know what IJC stands for. Doesn’t have much to do with my question. 

Again, why won’t you name the person who authorized you to do so?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269617">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>FP —</p>
<p>I know what IJC stands for. Doesn’t have much to do with my question. </p>
<p>Again, why won’t you name the person who authorized you to do so?</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 15:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269650&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

The &quot;de-dinging&quot; of Winbush is based on the LRH &quot;tech&quot; of Roll back.  Different name, same basic sh!t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269650">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>The &#8220;de-dinging&#8221; of Winbush is based on the LRH &#8220;tech&#8221; of Roll back.  Different name, same basic sh!t.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 14:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

No Fool, most of the insanity Hubtard pulled out of his ass and wrote has no prior source.  It wa HIS insanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>No Fool, most of the insanity Hubtard pulled out of his ass and wrote has no prior source.  It wa HIS insanity.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

This is from memory of almost 40 years ago so it&#039;s verbal tech. Part of the Ding Tech was that rather than confronting you directly, an SP would walk around the org or mission dropping off little dings. For example, &quot;The other day I saw Kinsley order steak and lobster at the restaurant. I wish I had that kind of money.&quot; Ding!

The little dings add up and pretty soon you might have a mutiny on your hands. If you track back the dings to their source you&#039;ve found your SP and shitcan him or her in a hurry!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>This is from memory of almost 40 years ago so it&#8217;s verbal tech. Part of the Ding Tech was that rather than confronting you directly, an SP would walk around the org or mission dropping off little dings. For example, &#8220;The other day I saw Kinsley order steak and lobster at the restaurant. I wish I had that kind of money.&#8221; Ding!</p>
<p>The little dings add up and pretty soon you might have a mutiny on your hands. If you track back the dings to their source you&#8217;ve found your SP and shitcan him or her in a hurry!</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 12:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Foolproof - Thanks for the clarification. There was a cassette tape which a lot of people listened to on which Wimbush explained his &quot;Ding Tech&quot; (joke). To some extent it explained corporate warfare and people out to &quot;get you&quot; in the corporate workplace. One of his quips I always remember is, &quot;What SP put me in coach instead of first class!!?&quot; laughter - He was a proponent of &quot;flowing power to power&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269626">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Foolproof &#8211; Thanks for the clarification. There was a cassette tape which a lot of people listened to on which Wimbush explained his &#8220;Ding Tech&#8221; (joke). To some extent it explained corporate warfare and people out to &#8220;get you&#8221; in the corporate workplace. One of his quips I always remember is, &#8220;What SP put me in coach instead of first class!!?&#8221; laughter &#8211; He was a proponent of &#8220;flowing power to power&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-doctrine-of-the-sp/#comment-269618&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Still waiting apparently.  You have plenty of time to respond to plenty of comments except the ones you don’t want to answer...]]></description>
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<p>Still waiting apparently.  You have plenty of time to respond to plenty of comments except the ones you don’t want to answer&#8230;</p>
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