Hubbard has posted all manner of theorization and yes; I have found flaws in the work — I studied what you sound like you are describing intensively: CNS can and does present imagery which is spectacular if nothing else occasionally ~ this occurs due to an inter-wiring between primitive areas of the brain — which do not think in any cognate sense — that stimulates Visual Cortex ▬ BT-s are not relevant as they are simply bounce off of the ethereal which the meter claims to detect ( adherents claim; not any physical much of anything ) and yes such things as PLR did influence his writings though for me — your citation is demonstrative of a central principal which the critics need to take into account which is that of one persons Thought; Intention; Effort ( to use the formalism ) having an effect on the interlocutor

Forgotten memory which appears to be in the present is definitely relevant to counter claims as this can be done in the present via one whom is an *Actual* OT-8 rather than claims of being so by Stat Pushers and other pushers ( pun intended )

Down to earth reality is no illusion. Effects can be created in the responded with are an illusion where the comparative is simple plain-jane — referenced as Mundane in Other Practices we eschew Hypno as a term — which is an involved discussion to say the least ••• suggestions arising from the mentioned Cryptomnesia can be generated at-will by the accomplished Upper Indoc Completions whom can actually to that though my efforts ( studies if you will ) show improbable correlate well beyond 7-Sigma where simple counts and stats distract from what is going on in the ethereal

It’s just an impressive, though spurious, phenomenon of the mind – similar to dreams in the sort of imaginative creativity it draws upon:

“the ‘memories’ recovered by techniques like past-life regression are the result of cryptomnesia: narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist. Memories created under hypnosis are indistinguishable from actual memories and can be more vivid than factual memories.”

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“Descriptions of alleged past lives were found to be extremely elaborate, with vivid, detailed descriptions. Subjects who reported memories of past lives exhibited high hypnotizability, and patients demonstrated that the expectations conveyed by the experimenter were most important in determining the characteristics of the reported memories. ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression#Sources_of_memories

Didn’t Hubbard concede towards the end, such as in OT VIII, that supposed past lives mostly came from other phenomenon – like BTs? He may not have been willing to completely give up on his theories, but others who came before him, and whose dabblings influenced him, had run a cross the same problems with past live regression that he had to try to explain away, like multiple people supposedly recalling having been the same historic personage (Cleopatra, Napoleon, etc.), and past lives that turned out under scrutiny to overlap in time – which had lead some to recognize that it was just an illusion of the mind, before Hubbard even came along.

T.J and Foolproof: Like Will Rogers said, “You can call me anything, just don’t call me late for dinner.

lol. :-p left myself open for that one I guess. at least I got a well said. 🙂

Hi Foolproof: The comment wasn’t directed at you personally. I didn’t take note of which posters had mis-named Terra Cognita, I only noticed that it had happened quite a few times by assorted commenters. It’s really such an inconsequential thing, and there’s no real need to mention it, but I have a habit of going after tiny details to set them straight (it’s just in my nature, it can’t be helped, and is why I am a financial auditor, a job where such tiny details matter).

To me also, Terra’s writing sounds like it is coming from a female “voice” (I am also female) but although Terra hasn’t to my knowledge referred to himself as a he or she, preferring to remain totally anonymous, I did read a prior comment made by Mike Rinder where he referred to Terra as ‘he’, so that is the pronoun I use when speaking of Terra.

Actually I stated this about me mis-naming Terra but for some reason Mike didn’t publish it. Perhaps it never arrived but there was no intention of me to pun on her (?) name.

You are saying I can make a decision that in the future, I will not be aware of thinking a particular thought WHILE I’M THINKING IT! I’m not on board with that hypothesis. Occam’s Razor suggests we go with simple explanations, ones that make sense. It doesn’t matter anyway because…

MRI research informs us that ALL, not just some, of our thoughts originate in the “pre-conscious” domain we call the “unconscious mind” before they appear in the conscious mind for our viewing pleasure. Since the ‘thetan’ is the experiencing agent, and all thoughts originate prior to experiencing them, it can be concluded with perfect confidence a ‘thetan’ is NOT the originator of thought.

Thanks TJ. My response was natural. I was not emulating other knowledge.

I agreed with him. I was sticking him in a box with Foolproof. MY Two Cents allows criticism of Ron. I do not think Foolproof does yet. I could be wrong though.

Foolproof, is there any sentiment that we all have expressed about Ron and his therapy that you agree with?

Roger, the reason the meter reads before the pc becomes aware of thoughts is that auditing addresses what the pc has previously decided not to be aware of.