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		By: Andy S		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-346096</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2020 13:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,
What&#039;s this about &quot;St Hill size&quot; surely St Hill Manor is just an English country house not especially large in size. It only boasts 30 rooms and can only hold 300 people at a time. 
Is this another lie perpetrated on the US members of CoS or is this all they can muster in the present climate.
I read recently there are only about 2-300 people in the UK who identify as Scientologists so I guess they could all fit into the manor comfortably.
Anyway it seems that they are renting it out to all and sundry for business meetings and concerts like any other country house hotel that wants to supplement the costs of owning a pile like that. This leads me to think there isn&#039;t much Scientology going on in this place at all and they have been pretty much been cut loose of funding from Clearwater.

Keep up the good work.

A.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
What&#8217;s this about &#8220;St Hill size&#8221; surely St Hill Manor is just an English country house not especially large in size. It only boasts 30 rooms and can only hold 300 people at a time.<br />
Is this another lie perpetrated on the US members of CoS or is this all they can muster in the present climate.<br />
I read recently there are only about 2-300 people in the UK who identify as Scientologists so I guess they could all fit into the manor comfortably.<br />
Anyway it seems that they are renting it out to all and sundry for business meetings and concerts like any other country house hotel that wants to supplement the costs of owning a pile like that. This leads me to think there isn&#8217;t much Scientology going on in this place at all and they have been pretty much been cut loose of funding from Clearwater.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>A.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280865</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280633&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

I left in 1982. I provide historical footnotes. I&#039;m becoming a dinosaur. Not everyone was gullible. The mysterious OT levels were hidden and unknown and you could still be free thinker. Us  baby boomers get a bad rap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280633">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>I left in 1982. I provide historical footnotes. I&#8217;m becoming a dinosaur. Not everyone was gullible. The mysterious OT levels were hidden and unknown and you could still be free thinker. Us  baby boomers get a bad rap.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280747</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280707&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

The staff in my (former) little org were, and surely still are, at heart, good, well intentioned, helpful people but the bottom line is they are members of a criminal organization, enablers of a major criminal and,  as such, criminals themselves. Knowing or unknowing, that&#039;s what they are.   Give them their due; possibly with the best of intentions then, possibly with the best of intentions now - they&#039;re criminals, as yet unapprehended, not to be trusted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280707">Linear13</a>.</p>
<p>The staff in my (former) little org were, and surely still are, at heart, good, well intentioned, helpful people but the bottom line is they are members of a criminal organization, enablers of a major criminal and,  as such, criminals themselves. Knowing or unknowing, that&#8217;s what they are.   Give them their due; possibly with the best of intentions then, possibly with the best of intentions now &#8211; they&#8217;re criminals, as yet unapprehended, not to be trusted.</p>
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		By: Linear13		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 21:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280616&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Mark that is funny AF and so true!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280616">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Mark that is funny AF and so true!</p>
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		By: Linear13		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 21:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280682&quot;&gt;ES&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sure he&#039;s a nice guy...as most scientologists and exes are.  Most SO joined up with their hearts in the right place...hoping to help but then they end up getting those hearts turned into stone and doing the &#039;tone 40&#039; pose like Mark calls it.  But this poor guy looks like he needs about a week of good hard sleep.  The SO anymore just look ragged and sleep deprived.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280682">ES</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s a nice guy&#8230;as most scientologists and exes are.  Most SO joined up with their hearts in the right place&#8230;hoping to help but then they end up getting those hearts turned into stone and doing the &#8216;tone 40&#8217; pose like Mark calls it.  But this poor guy looks like he needs about a week of good hard sleep.  The SO anymore just look ragged and sleep deprived.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 20:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280633&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep I remember. Lots of gullible boomers getting fleeced by Hubtard.  Until 99.9% of them grew up.  That was the end of Scamology really.  Having no exchangeable product the end was always assured.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280633">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>Yep I remember. Lots of gullible boomers getting fleeced by Hubtard.  Until 99.9% of them grew up.  That was the end of Scamology really.  Having no exchangeable product the end was always assured.</p>
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		By: ES		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280616&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

He’s actually a nice guy. I’ve met him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280616">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>He’s actually a nice guy. I’ve met him.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280649</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280592&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

It appears that for the small and failing orgs left that remain to get an &quot;ideal&quot; facility, Miscavige is probably using international management funds to finish the job once other fundraising is exhausted, so that he can keep up a pace of yanking several ribbons a year.  I believe that even early on, the IAS was credited with subsidizing some of the &quot;ideal&quot; org buildings.

I&#039;ve never seen solid confirmation of just what the ownership and rent arrangements for the new facilities are - if I recall, someone looking at records found at least one case of what seemed to look like local orgs that still owned the buildings.  But I&#039;m guessing that they wouldn&#039;t be getting much in rent given the failing finances of most of the orgs, and likely are increasingly having to forgive that and other &quot;uplines&quot; payments due in order to keep the orgs open, which have long been used to suck all the money out of them anyway.

It&#039;s indeed an exploitative mess, but it&#039;s almost certainly not even working out as a lucrative venture for Miscavige.  As comports with my knowledge of real estate investments and finances, and also according to John P. Capitalist&#039;s analyses, the &quot;ideal&quot; org debacle is really burning through money and destroying wealth, with unnecessary projects that are wasteful and badly  mis-managed.  But Miscavige is keeping up his image with the faithful, and keeping the IRS off his back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280592">Linear13</a>.</p>
<p>It appears that for the small and failing orgs left that remain to get an &#8220;ideal&#8221; facility, Miscavige is probably using international management funds to finish the job once other fundraising is exhausted, so that he can keep up a pace of yanking several ribbons a year.  I believe that even early on, the IAS was credited with subsidizing some of the &#8220;ideal&#8221; org buildings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen solid confirmation of just what the ownership and rent arrangements for the new facilities are &#8211; if I recall, someone looking at records found at least one case of what seemed to look like local orgs that still owned the buildings.  But I&#8217;m guessing that they wouldn&#8217;t be getting much in rent given the failing finances of most of the orgs, and likely are increasingly having to forgive that and other &#8220;uplines&#8221; payments due in order to keep the orgs open, which have long been used to suck all the money out of them anyway.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s indeed an exploitative mess, but it&#8217;s almost certainly not even working out as a lucrative venture for Miscavige.  As comports with my knowledge of real estate investments and finances, and also according to John P. Capitalist&#8217;s analyses, the &#8220;ideal&#8221; org debacle is really burning through money and destroying wealth, with unnecessary projects that are wasteful and badly  mis-managed.  But Miscavige is keeping up his image with the faithful, and keeping the IRS off his back.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280409&quot;&gt;George M White&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes George, Hubtard was better at covering up the scam than DM.  But, that&#039;s hardly something to crow about...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280409">George M White</a>.</p>
<p>Yes George, Hubtard was better at covering up the scam than DM.  But, that&#8217;s hardly something to crow about&#8230;</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280642</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280577&quot;&gt;Robert King&lt;/a&gt;.

Robert, barring something unforeseen those billions will stay in the off shore accounts to be used by DM to buy some small island where the CoS HQ (his retirement home) will be built.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-elite-team-fail/#comment-280577">Robert King</a>.</p>
<p>Robert, barring something unforeseen those billions will stay in the off shore accounts to be used by DM to buy some small island where the CoS HQ (his retirement home) will be built.</p>
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