Comments on: The Good, The Bad, The Really Ugly https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/ Something Can Be Done About It Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:10:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: thetimchannel https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35170 Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:10:21 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35170 All religions are crap, but that said, are there no examples of young children giving lots of money…to say the Catholic Church? There’s no doubt that Scientologist are the ‘fakest of the fake religions” (all of them) but I am curious if this type of fundraising is so out of the norm? Mormon kids are forced to fund their own “missions” all over the world. They save their entire lives for this crap. So in respect to criminal greed of churches, Scientology doesn’t have a corner on the market. Enjoy.

]]> By: outraged https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35150 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:30:09 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35150 Why is Mi$cientology not being investigated for child abuse?

]]> By: Ex-RPFer https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35149 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:17:49 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35149 In reply to anonymous555.

Well that makes sense. I am sure she was just so “keyed out” and “theta” that people couldn’t help but give her the money. This is even MORE gross than her just forking over her college fund. I remember being used in this way when I was a kid. When I was declared CLEAR at age 12 after doing my Purif and some Objectives, I was used in that way as an encouragement to other Scientology kids to “remember”. Also that is what I was pressured with to join the Sea Org from that moment forward. These people are disgusting.

]]> By: Mooser42001 https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35137 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:43:47 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35137 In reply to ThetaPotata.

They made their little girl party to a fraud.

]]> By: Mooser42001 https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35135 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:09:58 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35135 In reply to Draco.

‘And for her tenth Birthday, we made our daughter party to a fraud, and she isn’t even old enough to sign a contract. What could go wrong?”

]]> By: Espiritu https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35106 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:39:12 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35106 This same ploy is used in the streets in India and other third world countries by poverty stricken, unscrupulous parents who send their children into the streets to beg. Of course the parents take most of if not all of the money just like I’m sure Quinn’s parents take credit for their daughter’s fundraising on their eligibility checks and other brown nosing activities.
What the parents should be doing is seeing that their child gains skills (other than begging and manipulating others by pushing their buttons) that she can then use to produce actual products which she can exchange with others on her own self-determinism as she becomes an adult .

]]> By: Espiritu https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35105 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:21:45 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35105 Thanks for the inside scoop, anonymous555.
“The family isn’t rich at all. She basically asked a bunch of other church members to donate in her name till she got to 100K eventually over the course of a lot of events.”

What an awful lesson to teach a child.
Here’s how it should have gone down in a saner Scientology environment:
Miscavige Child Seducer-
“Honey, if you can get all of those adults to give me all their money…..I will give you YOUR ETERNITY!!!! How would you like that?!
Little Kid –
“I already got that! Liar! Cheater! You’re a cheater!!!! …..Dad?…..Mommm? This man (or lady) is trying to make me do bad things!”
Parent – “Hey creep! Get the hell away from my kid right now! And you better be able to run fast.”

]]> By: MJ https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35104 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 06:28:50 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35104 Here’s an inspiring kid:
http://blog.startwithwhy.com/refocus/2011/07/the-power-of-rachel-beckwith.html

]]> By: Foolproof https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35103 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 05:16:36 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35103 It seems that the remaining staff and public left in the Church are in some sort of “Matrix” that DM has slowly and carefully created over the last 30 years, or rather he has destroyed or attempted to destroy any whatever-remaining sanity or theta that is left in any Org. The report recently from a South African staff member(s) that the Org was “entheta” and was therefore not interested in being on staff anymore (good for him or her) is a good summary of the prevailing attitudes within this “Matrix”. George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm are fairly good comparisons as to what is going on. In the outside world this attitude is similar to globalization where 3rd world workers work as slaves and which is rapidly becoming the norm in the western world as well. I remember being on staff and having very good stats and wanting a break for a coffee and a cigarette now and then and then being told to do even more and even being harrassed and having to defend self because I was “not with the (off-policy rabid) program” so to speak. They attempted to squeeze too much blood from my particular stone so I told them to shove it. But I always had my coffee and cakes just like LRH states in Policy regardless. I just hope that we can rescue the whole movement from this god-awful way that things have turned out in Scientology Orgs.The only saving grace on this whole thing is that the people I know from my time who are in still now are and were ironically in terms of “Status” the least effective dregs and professional ARCXy PC-types who didn’t have a valid opinion on anything, the type that becomes an OTC Member and rips off his or her fellow Scientologists for Idle Org and IAS donations and then also claims a commission I believe. This, although uncharitable from me exposes the state of beingness of current staff and public. In other words what I am saying is that it is no wonder that DM can get away with it with these people still “in”. I have said before and I will say it again that these people are in treason to the subject and LRH; and if LRH had a grave he would be turning in it at the way this has all turned out. The “Matrix” has indeed arrived and is doing its foul deeds in Scientology Orgs. We’ll unplug it though!

]]> By: Pepper https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-good-the-bad-the-really-ugly/#comment-35101 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 04:08:38 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=16551#comment-35101 In reply to anonymous555.

Hi Anon555,

I posted towards the bottom but still believe that Miss Quinn is being taken advantage of by the very adults who should be looking out for her best interests.

I read your data after I posted. You’re so right about using the child to shame the adults.

We all know its hard to say “no” to children when they are fund raising for their sports team, group activity, camping trip, etc. I can never say no and always help them out.

I don’t see an “aww” factor at all and think its wrong. Quinn’s time and energy would be better served by doing community service work, focusing on school, sports or the arts. Whatever she has an interest or talent in and under the guidance of her parents.

Children should not be used as shills or beggars, period.

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