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		By: Mark		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289085&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Skyler, agreeing with you 6 days later: Scribe&#039;s posts here are consistently witty!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289085">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Skyler, agreeing with you 6 days later: Scribe&#8217;s posts here are consistently witty!</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289810</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 13:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I passionately encourage ex-scientologists, especially those who were in for decades, to READ! Especially when it comes to believing in the veracity and usefulness of the so-called &quot; study tech &quot; of scientology! There are tons and tons of well-written books, blogs,and articles about learning, studying, and cognitive development. They outline myriad effective strategies and methodologies that have been tested in different countries and cultures, some over long periods of time. The scientific research underscoring them is multi-disciplinary. 
In my opinion, it takes persistent, conscious effort to cleanse one&#039;s mind of scientology&#039;s emotional and intellectual pollution and corruption...
Hubbard was not your friend. He was selling pieces of blue sky-and knew it. He was a con man and a criminal. Only a fool would NOT question everything Hubbard did, said, and created. And, upon close examination, it&#039;s patently obvious that the whole Hubbardian edifice is a sham. He even takes the piss in the early fifties, in the PDC lectures, and tells you so!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I passionately encourage ex-scientologists, especially those who were in for decades, to READ! Especially when it comes to believing in the veracity and usefulness of the so-called &#8221; study tech &#8221; of scientology! There are tons and tons of well-written books, blogs,and articles about learning, studying, and cognitive development. They outline myriad effective strategies and methodologies that have been tested in different countries and cultures, some over long periods of time. The scientific research underscoring them is multi-disciplinary.<br />
In my opinion, it takes persistent, conscious effort to cleanse one&#8217;s mind of scientology&#8217;s emotional and intellectual pollution and corruption&#8230;<br />
Hubbard was not your friend. He was selling pieces of blue sky-and knew it. He was a con man and a criminal. Only a fool would NOT question everything Hubbard did, said, and created. And, upon close examination, it&#8217;s patently obvious that the whole Hubbardian edifice is a sham. He even takes the piss in the early fifties, in the PDC lectures, and tells you so!</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2019 13:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289463&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard, I believe you missed my points, which were that &quot; study technology &quot; is not about studying, but about indoctrination, and that it is based on utterly false premises, hence its lack of usefulness for &quot; studying &quot; anything.
And, because Hubbard didn&#039;t originate ANYTHING, but DID appropriate old ideas and concepts( e.g. abreactive therapy, the concept of the engram, the use of a tool based on the wheatstone bridge, etc.) for the expressed purpose (Affirmations )of controlling, manipulating, and discarding others in his quest for power and riches, I would argue that his own record of criminal intent( in writing ),criminal acts,failure to prove the veracity of his claims, and failure to produce the results he promised does effectively and conclusively damn everything with his name on it.
But...I do understand the idea that we can learn valuable lessons from being totally scammed by an amoral, narcissistic con man...
That&#039;s just my take on it. I understand that you may not view him and his so-called &quot; tech &quot; that way. The cool thing is that we can publicly discuss and debate the issues, which is expressly forbidden in the cult.
Thanks for expressing your views. Respect!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289463">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard, I believe you missed my points, which were that &#8221; study technology &#8221; is not about studying, but about indoctrination, and that it is based on utterly false premises, hence its lack of usefulness for &#8221; studying &#8221; anything.<br />
And, because Hubbard didn&#8217;t originate ANYTHING, but DID appropriate old ideas and concepts( e.g. abreactive therapy, the concept of the engram, the use of a tool based on the wheatstone bridge, etc.) for the expressed purpose (Affirmations )of controlling, manipulating, and discarding others in his quest for power and riches, I would argue that his own record of criminal intent( in writing ),criminal acts,failure to prove the veracity of his claims, and failure to produce the results he promised does effectively and conclusively damn everything with his name on it.<br />
But&#8230;I do understand the idea that we can learn valuable lessons from being totally scammed by an amoral, narcissistic con man&#8230;<br />
That&#8217;s just my take on it. I understand that you may not view him and his so-called &#8221; tech &#8221; that way. The cool thing is that we can publicly discuss and debate the issues, which is expressly forbidden in the cult.<br />
Thanks for expressing your views. Respect!😎</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289513&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289513">jere Lull (39 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 15:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289516&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

jere, that is because you are too young.  Back in the day when I was in grammar school we had to learn to do math in Roman numerals.  We had tests and could not convert back and forth.  Education has degraded much since then...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289516">jere Lull (39 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>jere, that is because you are too young.  Back in the day when I was in grammar school we had to learn to do math in Roman numerals.  We had tests and could not convert back and forth.  Education has degraded much since then&#8230;</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289179&quot;&gt;Peabody&lt;/a&gt;.

Peabody:  I&#039;ve yet to see anyone who could do even addition in Roman numerals . Most translate into decimal before calculations, then back to Roman numerals afterwards if appropriate.]]></description>
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<p>Peabody:  I&#8217;ve yet to see anyone who could do even addition in Roman numerals . Most translate into decimal before calculations, then back to Roman numerals afterwards if appropriate.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289515</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289213&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua:
&quot;that texts GET PRINTED with mis-spellings means the SO doesn’t have the (literate, English-speaking) man-power to proofread this stuff!&quot;

could also be a lack of interest to get it write.

I&#039;ve found that I&#039;ve lost much of my proofreading ability from reading so much on the InterWebz.  

Scientology compounds things by Tubby being so free and loose with alternative meanings and spellings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289213">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua:<br />
&#8220;that texts GET PRINTED with mis-spellings means the SO doesn’t have the (literate, English-speaking) man-power to proofread this stuff!&#8221;</p>
<p>could also be a lack of interest to get it write.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that I&#8217;ve lost much of my proofreading ability from reading so much on the InterWebz.  </p>
<p>Scientology compounds things by Tubby being so free and loose with alternative meanings and spellings.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289235&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Davey don&#039;t kneed to study nuttin!  He already NOs it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289235">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Davey don&#8217;t kneed to study nuttin!  He already NOs it all.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289259&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua, you and I were on opposite sides of the coin.  I couldn&#039;t memorize for beans (still can&#039;t) though I had an enormous vocabulary which allowed me to skate through  the standardized tests -- which,IIRC, was where I got the &quot;not living up to my potential&quot; label, which bugged the living daylights out of me.  By  4th grade, I started &quot;throwing&quot; those standardized tests and &quot;dropped&quot; my IQ considerably. Worked fine until about 11th grade when we HAD to do well on the tests (PSAT, SAT, etc.) for college placement &#038; scholarships.   My  only slip-up was in 5th grade, when they gave us a language comprehension test. Only one student in the district scored higher, and I heard about my &quot;potential&quot; again.  [bummer!] THEN, I fell afoul of the scn &#039;checkout&#039; and suddenly couldn&#039;t &#039;properly&#039; define any words, so was told I couldn&#039;t understand the material.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-illiterates-of-scientology/#comment-289259">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua, you and I were on opposite sides of the coin.  I couldn&#8217;t memorize for beans (still can&#8217;t) though I had an enormous vocabulary which allowed me to skate through  the standardized tests &#8212; which,IIRC, was where I got the &#8220;not living up to my potential&#8221; label, which bugged the living daylights out of me.  By  4th grade, I started &#8220;throwing&#8221; those standardized tests and &#8220;dropped&#8221; my IQ considerably. Worked fine until about 11th grade when we HAD to do well on the tests (PSAT, SAT, etc.) for college placement &amp; scholarships.   My  only slip-up was in 5th grade, when they gave us a language comprehension test. Only one student in the district scored higher, and I heard about my &#8220;potential&#8221; again.  [bummer!] THEN, I fell afoul of the scn &#8216;checkout&#8217; and suddenly couldn&#8217;t &#8216;properly&#8217; define any words, so was told I couldn&#8217;t understand the material.</p>
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		By: Chicken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This makes me so sad for the people who are producing them.  Denied a real education.  Denied sleep and nutrition.   No mercy for mistakes.  They will most likely endure a punishment for their errors.     Finally, the tech for which they have traded their life, does not work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me so sad for the people who are producing them.  Denied a real education.  Denied sleep and nutrition.   No mercy for mistakes.  They will most likely endure a punishment for their errors.     Finally, the tech for which they have traded their life, does not work.</p>
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