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		By: xclassvstaff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-36855&quot;&gt;Mary McCarran Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mary,
I think we may know each other through your son. I&#039;d love to touch base. If you are interested, you can email me at xclassv@hushmail.com]]></description>
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<p>Hi Mary,<br />
I think we may know each other through your son. I&#8217;d love to touch base. If you are interested, you can email me at <a href="mailto:xclassv@hushmail.com">xclassv@hushmail.com</a></p>
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		By: Ellie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37365</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 18:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary - the love you have given &#038; he has received will win over all.  Give it time.  Hold your head up high &#038; know that just as you love him, he loves you.  The &quot;church&quot; is a thing &#038; not capable of love.  The church did not give birth &#038; raise him, you and your husband did that.  The church will not hold him close it will only drain him in money &#038; spirit.

Be ready to bake a batch of cookies when he comes to the door - he will be home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary &#8211; the love you have given &amp; he has received will win over all.  Give it time.  Hold your head up high &amp; know that just as you love him, he loves you.  The &#8220;church&#8221; is a thing &amp; not capable of love.  The church did not give birth &amp; raise him, you and your husband did that.  The church will not hold him close it will only drain him in money &amp; spirit.</p>
<p>Be ready to bake a batch of cookies when he comes to the door &#8211; he will be home.</p>
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		By: hiatus57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 00:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This remark about &quot;Faith&quot; and &quot;Religious worship&quot; from the Church.

What do they worship, a God, A Prophet? 

Its interesting these shits have conned a bunch of UK Judges to take their side. 

OK I have no objection to the idiots who marry inside the COS but lets not pretend there is an worship other than the sychopants of DM and/or the IAS money tree.

But it shows no sign of going under and it keeps on somehow. Poor Staff members boo hoo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This remark about &#8220;Faith&#8221; and &#8220;Religious worship&#8221; from the Church.</p>
<p>What do they worship, a God, A Prophet? </p>
<p>Its interesting these shits have conned a bunch of UK Judges to take their side. </p>
<p>OK I have no objection to the idiots who marry inside the COS but lets not pretend there is an worship other than the sychopants of DM and/or the IAS money tree.</p>
<p>But it shows no sign of going under and it keeps on somehow. Poor Staff members boo hoo.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37084</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37065&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

thanks for the details of how the &quot;letter&quot; is emailed to OSA to send out via Karen&#039;s email to the media.

Thus, there is a computer trail that NO one can totally erase, should one of the INCOMM computer operations people who have access, know how to dig the computer trail right out of the INCOMM INT and INCOMM LA computer(s) to show this is being done.

I remember when I was in INCOMM Int, I several times (later after I was totally busted did I even admit it, but this was post removing grounds had I admitted it earlier) I looked at Miscavige&#039;s docs and folders.   Hubbard wrote that one can assess the efficiency of the exec by looking at their comm system (piles of unanswered, or large files of ongoing admin).   

Miscavige&#039;s trail on the computers he used of INCOMM, was definitely smaller than the other Int Execs, all of whom, like ED Int and CO CMO Int, and when at ASI I checked Starkey&#039;s, docs and folders, to see how much stuff they kept their fingers on top of.

There must be a trail though, likely on the secertaries&#039; computers, for all his &quot;Orders Logging&quot; orders that everyone keeps in binders.

And for this PR answering in Pouw&#039;s name, there must be a protocol in OSA, for keeping, or not, these answers that Miscavige does in her name.

I imagine there will be a computer paper trail, thus, in the OSA Int INCOMM (or their own) computers, the OSA computers will have these ghostwritten Miscavige PR media statements, and there will be some people in OSA who know that Miscavige wrote those in Karen&#039;s name.

Thanks.

I hope someday, some of the INCOMM computer nerd people or OSA people who know the Miscavige written PR statements are his, and not Karen&#039;s, will go public, and tell what they saw firsthand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37065">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>thanks for the details of how the &#8220;letter&#8221; is emailed to OSA to send out via Karen&#8217;s email to the media.</p>
<p>Thus, there is a computer trail that NO one can totally erase, should one of the INCOMM computer operations people who have access, know how to dig the computer trail right out of the INCOMM INT and INCOMM LA computer(s) to show this is being done.</p>
<p>I remember when I was in INCOMM Int, I several times (later after I was totally busted did I even admit it, but this was post removing grounds had I admitted it earlier) I looked at Miscavige&#8217;s docs and folders.   Hubbard wrote that one can assess the efficiency of the exec by looking at their comm system (piles of unanswered, or large files of ongoing admin).   </p>
<p>Miscavige&#8217;s trail on the computers he used of INCOMM, was definitely smaller than the other Int Execs, all of whom, like ED Int and CO CMO Int, and when at ASI I checked Starkey&#8217;s, docs and folders, to see how much stuff they kept their fingers on top of.</p>
<p>There must be a trail though, likely on the secertaries&#8217; computers, for all his &#8220;Orders Logging&#8221; orders that everyone keeps in binders.</p>
<p>And for this PR answering in Pouw&#8217;s name, there must be a protocol in OSA, for keeping, or not, these answers that Miscavige does in her name.</p>
<p>I imagine there will be a computer paper trail, thus, in the OSA Int INCOMM (or their own) computers, the OSA computers will have these ghostwritten Miscavige PR media statements, and there will be some people in OSA who know that Miscavige wrote those in Karen&#8217;s name.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I hope someday, some of the INCOMM computer nerd people or OSA people who know the Miscavige written PR statements are his, and not Karen&#8217;s, will go public, and tell what they saw firsthand.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37065&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

There is no letterhead, or if there is, the letter is simply printed off at OSA Int after it was forwarded from Miscavige&#039;s office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37065">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>There is no letterhead, or if there is, the letter is simply printed off at OSA Int after it was forwarded from Miscavige&#8217;s office.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37066&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Nothing is sent by snail mail. It is all emailed. Miscavige dictates it, it is forwarded to OSA Int to email out in Karin Pouw&#039;s name.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37066">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>Nothing is sent by snail mail. It is all emailed. Miscavige dictates it, it is forwarded to OSA Int to email out in Karin Pouw&#8217;s name.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I kind of think the details of how Miscavige ghost writes these PR letters to the media about Leah are rather important.

Because Leah is likely still going to be called in Monique&#039;s case, so what Leah says in important.

If the evidence trail showing Miscavige writes for Karen Pouw, these insulting combative letters in the media, now, countering Leah Remini, it shows clear evidence.

Tania Castle, former COB Secretary might have experience witnessing Miscavige&#039;s past ghost letter writings and Miscavige&#039;s ghost PR work!

This would corroborate just how intense Miscavige&#039;s daily coaching of all major PR events in Scientology actually are.

It&#039;d be nice for others, not just you Mike, to come out with the firsthand details of how Miscavige is micromanaging things from behind the scenes, like in this ghost writing of these major counter attack PR against Leah Remini, who I think Miscavige is fearful will appear in Monique&#039;s case through deposition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of think the details of how Miscavige ghost writes these PR letters to the media about Leah are rather important.</p>
<p>Because Leah is likely still going to be called in Monique&#8217;s case, so what Leah says in important.</p>
<p>If the evidence trail showing Miscavige writes for Karen Pouw, these insulting combative letters in the media, now, countering Leah Remini, it shows clear evidence.</p>
<p>Tania Castle, former COB Secretary might have experience witnessing Miscavige&#8217;s past ghost letter writings and Miscavige&#8217;s ghost PR work!</p>
<p>This would corroborate just how intense Miscavige&#8217;s daily coaching of all major PR events in Scientology actually are.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be nice for others, not just you Mike, to come out with the firsthand details of how Miscavige is micromanaging things from behind the scenes, like in this ghost writing of these major counter attack PR against Leah Remini, who I think Miscavige is fearful will appear in Monique&#8217;s case through deposition.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37065&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

In real life, likely one of the COB secretaries is coming to wherever Karen Pouw is, calling her to meet the COB Office secretary, Karen signs the letter, and the COB secretary mails it, there in LA, like other letters out of OSA get mailed.    

To be perfect, and not attract attention to the mail codes that get stamped on the letters, like if the letter were mailed from Hemet Post Office rather than the HGB Building&#039;s closest Post Office.

I wonder what the mail stamp that the media received letter has on it?    If it has the Hemet, CA post office location stamp on it, that would be suspicious and kind of evidence that the letter actually came from Pouw, but was sent from Hemet.

My guess is COB Office secretaries are sending this letter in LA.

COB Secretaries are likely the people trail back to Miscavige on these Miscavige ghost written letters in Karen Pouw&#039;s name.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-37065">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>In real life, likely one of the COB secretaries is coming to wherever Karen Pouw is, calling her to meet the COB Office secretary, Karen signs the letter, and the COB secretary mails it, there in LA, like other letters out of OSA get mailed.    </p>
<p>To be perfect, and not attract attention to the mail codes that get stamped on the letters, like if the letter were mailed from Hemet Post Office rather than the HGB Building&#8217;s closest Post Office.</p>
<p>I wonder what the mail stamp that the media received letter has on it?    If it has the Hemet, CA post office location stamp on it, that would be suspicious and kind of evidence that the letter actually came from Pouw, but was sent from Hemet.</p>
<p>My guess is COB Office secretaries are sending this letter in LA.</p>
<p>COB Secretaries are likely the people trail back to Miscavige on these Miscavige ghost written letters in Karen Pouw&#8217;s name.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-36812&quot;&gt;Scott Campbell&lt;/a&gt;.

How exactly does the line go from his dictation machine?

Would he be dictating this into his machine, Lou or another COB Office Secretary type the letter on the appropriate letterhead, and then get his okay visually on the letter as he dictated it, and then get that letter signed by Karen Pouw and or sent to Karen to sign it, and then either OSA or COB&#039;s secretaries or Lou actually have the letter mailed!

That implies a couple of other people are observing this paper trail and dictation to paper trail, and Karen might or might not be signing these letters, or does Karen get his tape.

I imagine the tapes all get Mission Impossible destroyed or overwritten.

The paper trail, the people who participate in this charade of Miscavige&#039;s ghostwriting all the important PR statements out of Scientology, needs be exposed in all its variations in a credible corrobarateable media article showing the details.

I hope others who&#039;ve done the delivery end of Miscavige&#039;s PR ghostwriting go public and show what a tiny desperate (&quot;No one else can do this, you idtiots!&quot;) one man band Miscavige is being to everyone at the top of this tiny operation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-36812">Scott Campbell</a>.</p>
<p>How exactly does the line go from his dictation machine?</p>
<p>Would he be dictating this into his machine, Lou or another COB Office Secretary type the letter on the appropriate letterhead, and then get his okay visually on the letter as he dictated it, and then get that letter signed by Karen Pouw and or sent to Karen to sign it, and then either OSA or COB&#8217;s secretaries or Lou actually have the letter mailed!</p>
<p>That implies a couple of other people are observing this paper trail and dictation to paper trail, and Karen might or might not be signing these letters, or does Karen get his tape.</p>
<p>I imagine the tapes all get Mission Impossible destroyed or overwritten.</p>
<p>The paper trail, the people who participate in this charade of Miscavige&#8217;s ghostwriting all the important PR statements out of Scientology, needs be exposed in all its variations in a credible corrobarateable media article showing the details.</p>
<p>I hope others who&#8217;ve done the delivery end of Miscavige&#8217;s PR ghostwriting go public and show what a tiny desperate (&#8220;No one else can do this, you idtiots!&#8221;) one man band Miscavige is being to everyone at the top of this tiny operation.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2014 13:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-36825&quot;&gt;zemooo&lt;/a&gt;.

Does this mean that Miscavige sits in his office, writes these media responses on one of his office computers or even on the INCOMM computer system, and he uses the appropriate letterhead, and that even some of his COB Office staff might even notice he&#039;s the writing these PR response letters to the media?

If Karen is at the Base, or whatever, then the letter may even be being taken to her by one of COB&#039;s Office staff, to make her sign it.

Or would she be called to his or some other office, and made to sign what he&#039;s written?

In any case, there will be a paper trail on the computer he used.   There will be a physical trail in that people in COB&#039;s Office will see this being done, the secretaries or Lou will be getting Karen to sign the letter that Miscavige has written.

This paper trail of evidence, I hope someday the parts of this trail and the people involved tell how exactly it was done.

It would be corroborating proof of the one man band and tiny show it really is at the top of the whole massive mega big and important Scientology church!

Thanks Mike for correcting who writes these media letters in Karen&#039;s name!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-king-of-ad-hominem/#comment-36825">zemooo</a>.</p>
<p>Does this mean that Miscavige sits in his office, writes these media responses on one of his office computers or even on the INCOMM computer system, and he uses the appropriate letterhead, and that even some of his COB Office staff might even notice he&#8217;s the writing these PR response letters to the media?</p>
<p>If Karen is at the Base, or whatever, then the letter may even be being taken to her by one of COB&#8217;s Office staff, to make her sign it.</p>
<p>Or would she be called to his or some other office, and made to sign what he&#8217;s written?</p>
<p>In any case, there will be a paper trail on the computer he used.   There will be a physical trail in that people in COB&#8217;s Office will see this being done, the secretaries or Lou will be getting Karen to sign the letter that Miscavige has written.</p>
<p>This paper trail of evidence, I hope someday the parts of this trail and the people involved tell how exactly it was done.</p>
<p>It would be corroborating proof of the one man band and tiny show it really is at the top of the whole massive mega big and important Scientology church!</p>
<p>Thanks Mike for correcting who writes these media letters in Karen&#8217;s name!</p>
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