All day, every day, this is the cycle of thought, coupled with the threat of punishment for any step out of line.
Punished, even, for NOT reporting.

This sets the tone for every Staff, as a matter of policy.

Hubbard was unable to tolerate criticism. His psychological profile is clearly reflected in his created organization.
His personality manifests as the model case example to define both the terms:
schizophrenic, and
megalomaniac.

And of course we were all soon enough running around with genuinely paranoid thoughts of our own, dominating the course of self-contemplation. Dominating being the operative word.
If you are staff, your thoughts are governed by Hubbard and his rigid and very strict policy of zero deviation.
Then, he forces you to step out and say how free and liberated you are… “Yes, tell this to the world…”.
Just don’t say anything that might get you reported.

I would like to attend an “SP Convention’ like the conventions they have on the Freewinds.
Since I cannot go back to the ship where I had been forced to leave my friends ( the clearance I/C OSA WEST US told me that ex SO members do not have friends) and was told that I could not go back even when I was in good standing I would like a place where I could join my 3rd dynamic of fellow SPs . We could drill techniques of driving the remaining church nuts and meet up with friends. As LRH said a group is stronger than an individual and I knew quite a few people in the SO many of whom are out now but I do not know where they are now.If anyone has any sugestions i would appreciate hearing them. You can probably post them here or you can call me at 214-756-0988. I have no fear of OSA or others knowing my number. The church had me within a few weeks of being dead but they could not finish the cycle of action. Nothing they could possibly do could compare with what they have done already.

Dear terra cognita,
If you told the MAA that DM was an SP and are posting on Mikes blog then I am.sure that you will b moved to the front of the list of pending declares. I was no doubt declared for posting on Martys blog and for the 2 videos I did on Karen de la Carriere’s Surviving Scientology site. You can find them by searching for my name plus either Scn, Freewinds Hiv or AIDS. They are pretty hard hitting if I may say so myself. As for me, I am fine and happy to be out of the Church even though it took nearly dying of AIDS to do it.

Thank you My 2 cents for your perspective and

informative post.

While I don’t doubt the veracity of what you have

said, I would suggest that it was the ‘theta’ or

individual personalities and their high tone and high

purpose and compassion and high ability, which they

all had BEFORE they came into scientology. It was

such value that the imported into Hubbard’s

enterprise whic both enabled them to reach their

Class VI and OTIII levels as well as produce/bring

about the tone and success of the organization and

it’s newer individual members rising up the bridge

and becoming more capable. To attribute it to Hubbard

I do believe is in error and there are some

supporting reports to coroberate such opinion.
Although I would like to provide links and actual

quotes to do absolute supporting justice to my

eclaims, I will not do so at this time.
I will however provide rough references to items

which I can recall off the top of my head of which I

have read online over the years.
1) the MD, I believe it was J Winters circa 1950-51

who included in one of his reports that the Hubbard

Research Foundation was essentially ‘draconian’ and

hubbard was the ‘draco’ who would tolerate no

adustment to his theories and or authoritative

statements from others. This might be in a ‘report

from a Doctor’ or if not, in other statements by

Winters.
2) The overall meme, which is very strong in the

editor of the “compleat Abberree” a publication put

out ‘in the field’ from 1954? to as late as 1962?,

that essentially Authoritanism, Greed and Fair Game

were well underway as instigated and even in some

cases directly carried out by EL Ron, through out

that period.
3)L Ron Hubbard JUNIOR talking about the thuggery

missions which he and his father personally carried

out upon at least one if not more of Lavaette

enemies.

Brief summary conclusion: It was not L.Ron Hubbard

who created the benevolent and beneficial aspects of

early Dn and Scn organizations but rather it was the

very capable individuals who came into the

organization. This is very likely more accurately the

truth of yesteryear and continued in greater or

lesser degree in the ensuing years with a probable

huge drop starting somewhere around the late 70’s or

early 80’s.

PS It was El Con’s strong ability to spot sources of

energy or power, contact and market to them, and

extracting their assests whether financial,

connections network as OL(project Celebrity)( and

currently other politicians and community betterment

groups and religious group, insights and proposed

TECK of the mind(students and researchers of the

mind) then claiming such as his own (eg:the

educators) and finally despatching with them and even

attack as needed or out of paranoia imagine need to

Fair Game even including the vexaticious litigant

tools.
I am not saying that LRH did not provide some

benefit, but there are almost 70 years of tales which

support that he very much was an accomplished Con-

fidence man. So let us not attribute, the benefits

and help that occurred around him because of others

who who he drew in to him, but rather to the actual

sources.

Please excuse the typing and other writing errors.

Dear Bill,
Thank you for your generosity in sharing your story from the inside.
I share here one of my KR stories.
When a dear friend wrote up recollections of somethings I’d said here and there over a year or two as she cleaned house getting ready to get on the level, OTVII, I knew we’d never be the same before reading it.
I persisted until I got a copy. I stared at this random compendium of statements I had made. Colored darkly and exaggerated with what my friend had added to these convos. Only now like magic these back and forth conversations become monologues by me.
This is friendship?
This is truth?
This is what a church asks of a parishioner when they bow their head to step to the holiest of holy spiritual steps?
They lie about conversations and agree to ditch their long term friends?
They do this because their spiritual path precludes a sarcastic, dare we say cynical conversation from sullying their past?
This is cray-cray. Nuts. Ireligious. Spiritually backrupt. Horrifically betraying a friendship and a trust. Sick.
I was left like a hit and run body by the side of a road called friendship, judged, fudged and kicked.
Gladly I’m OK. But it was not an experience I’d like to repeat.
The weapon of the destruction of a full and lovely friendship you ask?
A KR!

Jane Kember went to jail with Mary Sue Hubbard as one of the Snow White 11. From all reports, she was Mary Sue’s enforcer in the GO and had the morals of a mink in heat.

Jose, is Jane Kember a “pre prison convicted felon”. Is this just you saying that she should and may go to prison in the future? Or did she have a brush with the law? From what I have heard, she is a nasty character.

Bill: HIV! I hope you’re doing OK, man. All the best.

Bill: You’re probably right. I haven’t been declared because they’re too busy, or I have, and nobody’s had the guts to tell me. Last I heard, my “cycle” was being routed to the “Justice Chief,” as the MAA couldn’t seem to handle me herself–especially after I told her that her predecessor was a liar and the man at the helm was an SP.