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		By: Dead Man Talking Bill Straass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2022 16:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248665&quot;&gt;anyoldname1&lt;/a&gt;.

I realized some time ago that when they declare someone they are not punishing the person being declared. They are punishing everyone else he knew. Since they all have to disconnect; the threat of declare serves to keep them in line. They certainly have not stopped Mike and they have not stopped me. On the contrary, by being declared suppressive they have left us open to tell the truth. Since we have been declared, we have nothing to lose by continuing. 
       In my own case, since they have already pronounced me dead, they are incapable of doing anything else to me. I have not heard a single word of disparagement from them. They apparently cannot do so without admitting that I am still alive 20 YEARS after the self proclaimed only Right Arm Captain in the S.O. declared as fact to my then wife that I would be dead soon. 
   This is in violation of a Flag Order on how to be a good subordinate in which LRH says in part &quot; Petty Officer Jenks is handing that now , sir, when Jenks doesn&#039;t even know about it yet! 
       They had 20 years now ( actually it will be 20 years on Mother&#039;s Day which is in a couple of weeks and they still have not corrected their error by finishing me off. 
      I made a number of errors in Engineering on the ship but I always caught and corrected them before anyone found out about them. Their error in failing to finish me off is now spread all over the internet, yet still they fail to take action. 
      Yet in the beginning, shortly after I had left the Freewinds, all it would have taken was for someone from the ship to have given me an &quot; R-factor&quot; that It would be the &quot;Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of dynamics&quot; for me to just climb into my coffin and close the lid. Had they given me that &quot;R-factor&quot; I would have done so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248665">anyoldname1</a>.</p>
<p>I realized some time ago that when they declare someone they are not punishing the person being declared. They are punishing everyone else he knew. Since they all have to disconnect; the threat of declare serves to keep them in line. They certainly have not stopped Mike and they have not stopped me. On the contrary, by being declared suppressive they have left us open to tell the truth. Since we have been declared, we have nothing to lose by continuing.<br />
       In my own case, since they have already pronounced me dead, they are incapable of doing anything else to me. I have not heard a single word of disparagement from them. They apparently cannot do so without admitting that I am still alive 20 YEARS after the self proclaimed only Right Arm Captain in the S.O. declared as fact to my then wife that I would be dead soon.<br />
   This is in violation of a Flag Order on how to be a good subordinate in which LRH says in part &#8221; Petty Officer Jenks is handing that now , sir, when Jenks doesn&#8217;t even know about it yet!<br />
       They had 20 years now ( actually it will be 20 years on Mother&#8217;s Day which is in a couple of weeks and they still have not corrected their error by finishing me off.<br />
      I made a number of errors in Engineering on the ship but I always caught and corrected them before anyone found out about them. Their error in failing to finish me off is now spread all over the internet, yet still they fail to take action.<br />
      Yet in the beginning, shortly after I had left the Freewinds, all it would have taken was for someone from the ship to have given me an &#8221; R-factor&#8221; that It would be the &#8220;Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of dynamics&#8221; for me to just climb into my coffin and close the lid. Had they given me that &#8220;R-factor&#8221; I would have done so.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-277679&quot;&gt;Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

I almost forgot. Don&#039;t ask me how I knew that.]]></description>
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<p>I almost forgot. Don&#8217;t ask me how I knew that.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248302&quot;&gt;badbilly&lt;/a&gt;.

I would pay a hundred bucks for a DM bobblehead in his real uniform, you know, the one with the totemkopf ( Death&#039;s Head for those of you non Deutschlanders) insignia along with the swastika and the double lightning bolt of the SS. If you could get jackboots with it I&#039;d pay 125 bucks. That is the real uniform of those than ran the concentration camps. That is the only &quot;Standard Tech&quot; he is getting in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248302">badbilly</a>.</p>
<p>I would pay a hundred bucks for a DM bobblehead in his real uniform, you know, the one with the totemkopf ( Death&#8217;s Head for those of you non Deutschlanders) insignia along with the swastika and the double lightning bolt of the SS. If you could get jackboots with it I&#8217;d pay 125 bucks. That is the real uniform of those than ran the concentration camps. That is the only &#8220;Standard Tech&#8221; he is getting in.</p>
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		By: chuckbeatty77		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-249319</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2019 22:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding Marty Rathbun, the guy is a very smart but his old Scientology career highlights are just too deep for him to not get back into, which is the short reason I felt he fell back into somewhat doing Scientology&#039;s, and mainly their lawyer Yingling I think is the person in his life that drew him back into line with them.

Marty was front row at the War Is Over event, and he was senior to the lawyers, and the lawyer(s) in his mind he knows are smarter than him, but Marty was their boss and tightest person.

I think he simply quit fighting, and took that secret settlement.   Maybe he&#039;ll write what that settlement was so it is posthumously revealed when he dies.  

Leaving his old site intact, I think was part of his bargain.

He could at least leave and not deny his critic years, and thankfully a lot of historical commenting on his site and a lot of pretty in depth discussions happened there.

His dad went to Annapolis and was a grad there.   Marty&#039;s from pretty hefty background genetically.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Marty Rathbun, the guy is a very smart but his old Scientology career highlights are just too deep for him to not get back into, which is the short reason I felt he fell back into somewhat doing Scientology&#8217;s, and mainly their lawyer Yingling I think is the person in his life that drew him back into line with them.</p>
<p>Marty was front row at the War Is Over event, and he was senior to the lawyers, and the lawyer(s) in his mind he knows are smarter than him, but Marty was their boss and tightest person.</p>
<p>I think he simply quit fighting, and took that secret settlement.   Maybe he&#8217;ll write what that settlement was so it is posthumously revealed when he dies.  </p>
<p>Leaving his old site intact, I think was part of his bargain.</p>
<p>He could at least leave and not deny his critic years, and thankfully a lot of historical commenting on his site and a lot of pretty in depth discussions happened there.</p>
<p>His dad went to Annapolis and was a grad there.   Marty&#8217;s from pretty hefty background genetically.</p>
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		By: Elwyn Chow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elwyn Chow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t say I am a fan of the bobblehead either. Maybe it&#039;s the photo but it lacks sharpness and detail. Speaking sharpness, I agree about the attire issue. You always wear nice suits on TV.

justice4mom.org.? When I think of websites that seek justice, I think of people who got murdered or wrongly imprisoned. Normal people file a civil lawsuit and press criminal charges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I am a fan of the bobblehead either. Maybe it&#8217;s the photo but it lacks sharpness and detail. Speaking sharpness, I agree about the attire issue. You always wear nice suits on TV.</p>
<p>justice4mom.org.? When I think of websites that seek justice, I think of people who got murdered or wrongly imprisoned. Normal people file a civil lawsuit and press criminal charges.</p>
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		By: Susie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248811</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 06:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am referred to as the &quot;Susie XXX Problem&quot; and I wear the title with pride! Its not Scientology I&#039;m fighting but a group that feels it&#039;s Problems are my fault since I stood up for myself (and others) and refuse to back down. I&#039;ve had death threats, property vandalized, harassed, threatened, followed and photographed but I go to their monthly meetings because I want them all to see I&#039;m not afraid and will continue to stand my ground. I&#039;ve made some changes to protect myself, family and property as best I can and have a great lawyer so I&#039;ll be ok in the end. My thing only involced a few hundred people so it&#039;s not that big of a deal and it&#039;s not religion based but I&#039;ve always seen parallels with how Scientology behaves. My legal battle should be resolved in the next year or so, hopefully COS will be facing an even bigger one in the same time frame. Wear your badge with honor Mike and I&#039;m jealous you got a bobblehead (you should get some made and sell them!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am referred to as the &#8220;Susie XXX Problem&#8221; and I wear the title with pride! Its not Scientology I&#8217;m fighting but a group that feels it&#8217;s Problems are my fault since I stood up for myself (and others) and refuse to back down. I&#8217;ve had death threats, property vandalized, harassed, threatened, followed and photographed but I go to their monthly meetings because I want them all to see I&#8217;m not afraid and will continue to stand my ground. I&#8217;ve made some changes to protect myself, family and property as best I can and have a great lawyer so I&#8217;ll be ok in the end. My thing only involced a few hundred people so it&#8217;s not that big of a deal and it&#8217;s not religion based but I&#8217;ve always seen parallels with how Scientology behaves. My legal battle should be resolved in the next year or so, hopefully COS will be facing an even bigger one in the same time frame. Wear your badge with honor Mike and I&#8217;m jealous you got a bobblehead (you should get some made and sell them!)</p>
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		By: ctempster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 01:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248173&quot;&gt;Badafuco&lt;/a&gt;.

Badafuco, great idea!  We could sell the bobbleheads and put a portion of the sales over to Aftermath Foundation to help others escape and the rest of the money can go to Mike.  After it is his head that is bobbling.]]></description>
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<p>Badafuco, great idea!  We could sell the bobbleheads and put a portion of the sales over to Aftermath Foundation to help others escape and the rest of the money can go to Mike.  After it is his head that is bobbling.</p>
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		By: anyoldname1		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248667</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248095&quot;&gt;Zee Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

We could sell Mike Bobbleheads to raise money for his legal fund.]]></description>
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<p>We could sell Mike Bobbleheads to raise money for his legal fund.</p>
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		By: anyoldname1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 23:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology is abusing your ex-wife &#038; daughter, not you.  

If a small graze via incidental contact is considered spousal abuse, what is banishing your wife to a remote compound complete with armed guards and razor wire for a decade considered?  

I am so thankful for the Mike Rinder Problem, and that noisy Troublemaker, too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology is abusing your ex-wife &amp; daughter, not you.  </p>
<p>If a small graze via incidental contact is considered spousal abuse, what is banishing your wife to a remote compound complete with armed guards and razor wire for a decade considered?  </p>
<p>I am so thankful for the Mike Rinder Problem, and that noisy Troublemaker, too!</p>
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		By: Katie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mike-rinder-problem/#comment-248523&quot;&gt;Katie&lt;/a&gt;.

I also just noticed that today is apparently National Bobblehead Day. Happy National Bobblehead Day Mike! Only a few among us can celebrate with their own personalized bobblehead!]]></description>
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<p>I also just noticed that today is apparently National Bobblehead Day. Happy National Bobblehead Day Mike! Only a few among us can celebrate with their own personalized bobblehead!</p>
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