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		By: Pamela Graf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Graf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543659&quot;&gt;Pamela Graf&lt;/a&gt;.

No problem.  It was very political.  

Let me try again,

Brian asked, “Is there any relation to my essay with your experience in Canada”?

Answer: Yes. 

Brian asked, “I’ve heard freedom of speech and other liberties are being threatened there. Am I right or am I wrong”?

Answer: Yes. We now have a censorship Bill that restricts what  Canadians are allowed to see on the internet.  We have another regulatory Bill that dictates what language must be used. If you are a professional you can lose your educational degrees and certification and be sent for retraining if you do not use the language as so dictated. 

Brian asked, “How is Canada right now”?

Answer: Google it. 

That’s my best attempt to stay within the rules of the forum.  

Although I regret voicing my opinions and generally I stay away from political comments in forums like this, I do not apologize for my viewpoints.  They are all I have left. 

Pamela

Ps, I’ll understand if you censor this comment as well. I still like you and like the content you provide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543659">Pamela Graf</a>.</p>
<p>No problem.  It was very political.  </p>
<p>Let me try again,</p>
<p>Brian asked, “Is there any relation to my essay with your experience in Canada”?</p>
<p>Answer: Yes. </p>
<p>Brian asked, “I’ve heard freedom of speech and other liberties are being threatened there. Am I right or am I wrong”?</p>
<p>Answer: Yes. We now have a censorship Bill that restricts what  Canadians are allowed to see on the internet.  We have another regulatory Bill that dictates what language must be used. If you are a professional you can lose your educational degrees and certification and be sent for retraining if you do not use the language as so dictated. </p>
<p>Brian asked, “How is Canada right now”?</p>
<p>Answer: Google it. </p>
<p>That’s my best attempt to stay within the rules of the forum.  </p>
<p>Although I regret voicing my opinions and generally I stay away from political comments in forums like this, I do not apologize for my viewpoints.  They are all I have left. </p>
<p>Pamela</p>
<p>Ps, I’ll understand if you censor this comment as well. I still like you and like the content you provide.</p>
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		By: Pamela Graf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Graf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543492&quot;&gt;Brian Thomas Lambert&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Brian, 

That is a loaded question but I will give it a try. 

[UNFORTUNATELY, THIS COMMENT WAS ENTIRELY POLITICAL AND I TRY TO AVOID POLITICAL ARGUMENTS HERE AS THEY INVARIABLY DEVOLVE INTO BACK AND FORTH FLAME WARS, SO I DELETED THE MAJORITY OF THE CONTENT OF THE COMMENT BUT LEFT THIS HERE AS A REMINDER NOT TO ENGAGE IN PARTISAN POLITICAL DEBATE, THIS IS NOT THE FORUM FOR THAT. SOME SLIPS THROUGH, BUT GENERALLY PEOPLE ARE MINDFUL].

I could go on. But I’m tired.  

I apologize for the length of this but give me a platform to speak out and….I will.

Good night my friend,

Pam




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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543492">Brian Thomas Lambert</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Brian, </p>
<p>That is a loaded question but I will give it a try. </p>
<p>[UNFORTUNATELY, THIS COMMENT WAS ENTIRELY POLITICAL AND I TRY TO AVOID POLITICAL ARGUMENTS HERE AS THEY INVARIABLY DEVOLVE INTO BACK AND FORTH FLAME WARS, SO I DELETED THE MAJORITY OF THE CONTENT OF THE COMMENT BUT LEFT THIS HERE AS A REMINDER NOT TO ENGAGE IN PARTISAN POLITICAL DEBATE, THIS IS NOT THE FORUM FOR THAT. SOME SLIPS THROUGH, BUT GENERALLY PEOPLE ARE MINDFUL].</p>
<p>I could go on. But I’m tired.  </p>
<p>I apologize for the length of this but give me a platform to speak out and….I will.</p>
<p>Good night my friend,</p>
<p>Pam</p>
<p>.</p>
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		By: Brian Thomas Lambert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Thomas Lambert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 02:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543446&quot;&gt;Pamela Graf&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Pam! Long time no hear from! Thank you so much for you kind words. 
Is there any relation to my essay with your experience in Canada? I’ve heard freedom of speech and other liberties are being threatened there. Am I right or am I wrong?
How is Canada right now?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543446">Pamela Graf</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Pam! Long time no hear from! Thank you so much for you kind words.<br />
Is there any relation to my essay with your experience in Canada? I’ve heard freedom of speech and other liberties are being threatened there. Am I right or am I wrong?<br />
How is Canada right now?</p>
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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 01:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543325&quot;&gt;Rheva Acevedo&lt;/a&gt;.

Good post.

&quot;Scn has things to hide…as do governments and organizations who don’t trust and respect others. Oddly (or maybe not so oddly), we see LRH tech on how to treat enemies every single day in our very own government…which begs the question, how come?&quot;

There are puppet masters above them. Their amusement and abilities to fool. trick and control knows no bounds, you never know what they take seriously. Wars and misery are like chess moves to them. They do not directly engage with the public, it&#039;s not their style, but they influence via the many agencies they control. People like Hubbard and now Miscavige are easily forced to fall in line so they don&#039;t get too cocky. Even Hitler listened to those who controlled the banks. Aren&#039;t presidents members of secret societies? Someone&#039;s got to run them, the Grand Pooh Bah so to speak. It could be suggested, the more screwed up the lower classes are, the more easily they fulfill their task of being an interesting playing field. Hubbard was paranoid about them, and rightfully so, apart from the fact he was a degraded being and couldn&#039;t give or receive help - he was so chock a block full of crimes and ill will, no matter what he said or wrote to the contrary. &quot;They&quot; infiltrated and controlled his precious church anyway. Hubbard&#039;s tech and the way the church expanded so quickly, especially with so much $ donated for a scam, must have been a fun motivation and cool tool for them to play with. I don&#039;t think they ever took the game Hubbard presented seriously, it stimulated them! Just my opinion and assumption why the CofS is so damn hard to get rid of and copied around many govts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543325">Rheva Acevedo</a>.</p>
<p>Good post.</p>
<p>&#8220;Scn has things to hide…as do governments and organizations who don’t trust and respect others. Oddly (or maybe not so oddly), we see LRH tech on how to treat enemies every single day in our very own government…which begs the question, how come?&#8221;</p>
<p>There are puppet masters above them. Their amusement and abilities to fool. trick and control knows no bounds, you never know what they take seriously. Wars and misery are like chess moves to them. They do not directly engage with the public, it&#8217;s not their style, but they influence via the many agencies they control. People like Hubbard and now Miscavige are easily forced to fall in line so they don&#8217;t get too cocky. Even Hitler listened to those who controlled the banks. Aren&#8217;t presidents members of secret societies? Someone&#8217;s got to run them, the Grand Pooh Bah so to speak. It could be suggested, the more screwed up the lower classes are, the more easily they fulfill their task of being an interesting playing field. Hubbard was paranoid about them, and rightfully so, apart from the fact he was a degraded being and couldn&#8217;t give or receive help &#8211; he was so chock a block full of crimes and ill will, no matter what he said or wrote to the contrary. &#8220;They&#8221; infiltrated and controlled his precious church anyway. Hubbard&#8217;s tech and the way the church expanded so quickly, especially with so much $ donated for a scam, must have been a fun motivation and cool tool for them to play with. I don&#8217;t think they ever took the game Hubbard presented seriously, it stimulated them! Just my opinion and assumption why the CofS is so damn hard to get rid of and copied around many govts.</p>
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		By: Pamela Graf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 01:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fantastic essay Brian!  Your very best to date.

I can see that you have used your absence from social media very well.  

You dug into the truth of the problems we are all facing in our current world with laser focus and crafted an essay that was not only brilliant but to the point of what everyone truly needs to start thinking about. 

It’s like you spoke everything I’ve been feeling and then some.  And you reminded me that I am not alone in these thoughts. 

We are so often made to feel isolated and alone in this mad circus that our world has become. It’s like if you question anything then the name calling and social isolation starts.  The media is spewing a narrative that many are too afraid, too comfortable or just too complacent to question.  

So thank you Brian as a voice of light in an ever darkening world.

Excellent essay!  Thank you so much!

Love to you and Margaret.

Pam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic essay Brian!  Your very best to date.</p>
<p>I can see that you have used your absence from social media very well.  </p>
<p>You dug into the truth of the problems we are all facing in our current world with laser focus and crafted an essay that was not only brilliant but to the point of what everyone truly needs to start thinking about. </p>
<p>It’s like you spoke everything I’ve been feeling and then some.  And you reminded me that I am not alone in these thoughts. </p>
<p>We are so often made to feel isolated and alone in this mad circus that our world has become. It’s like if you question anything then the name calling and social isolation starts.  The media is spewing a narrative that many are too afraid, too comfortable or just too complacent to question.  </p>
<p>So thank you Brian as a voice of light in an ever darkening world.</p>
<p>Excellent essay!  Thank you so much!</p>
<p>Love to you and Margaret.</p>
<p>Pam</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543325&quot;&gt;Rheva Acevedo&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe some cult members are uneducated and naive, low self esteem like you say, but I found just as many who were educated and had high self esteem and had lived in the real world before joining, myself among them.  In order to get out of a cult it does take some smarts and some confront and a willingness to look and question.  Getting out is much harder than getting in.,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543325">Rheva Acevedo</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe some cult members are uneducated and naive, low self esteem like you say, but I found just as many who were educated and had high self esteem and had lived in the real world before joining, myself among them.  In order to get out of a cult it does take some smarts and some confront and a willingness to look and question.  Getting out is much harder than getting in.,</p>
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		By: rosemarie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i agree with you on every point. when labels replace caring about others we are dehumanizing them.  caring about others is what those narcissists cannot abide.  thank you for this thoughtful arrival.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with you on every point. when labels replace caring about others we are dehumanizing them.  caring about others is what those narcissists cannot abide.  thank you for this thoughtful arrival.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen de la Carriere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 06:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You described your epiphany so well Brian.
Lovely essay.
You should write more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You described your epiphany so well Brian.<br />
Lovely essay.<br />
You should write more.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543328&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ll add that at this stage of my life, as regards the search for truth, I feel comfortable living in the question and the quest for it, and the answers are all around us via listening to all kinds of people, even very close minded people, you know, the politically or religiously  &quot;my way or the highway types&quot;  - although with these I&#039;ve found it a learning experience to listen to what they DON&#039;T say. ( If I can keep my temper.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543328">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add that at this stage of my life, as regards the search for truth, I feel comfortable living in the question and the quest for it, and the answers are all around us via listening to all kinds of people, even very close minded people, you know, the politically or religiously  &#8220;my way or the highway types&#8221;  &#8211; although with these I&#8217;ve found it a learning experience to listen to what they DON&#8217;T say. ( If I can keep my temper.)</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543325&quot;&gt;Rheva Acevedo&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;In order for a cult, any cult, to recruit and hold onto it subjects, its leaders need naive, young, poorly educated, idealistic, low self-esteem, often altruistic people.&quot;

Cults also recruit and hold onto worldly, old, highly-educated, cynical, high self-esteem, selfish people because they are exploiting vulnerabilities that are common to everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-precious-lessons-i-learned-being-a-scientologist/#comment-543325">Rheva Acevedo</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;In order for a cult, any cult, to recruit and hold onto it subjects, its leaders need naive, young, poorly educated, idealistic, low self-esteem, often altruistic people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cults also recruit and hold onto worldly, old, highly-educated, cynical, high self-esteem, selfish people because they are exploiting vulnerabilities that are common to everyone.</p>
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