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		By: Rozsa		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-508169</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189324&quot;&gt;Spike&lt;/a&gt;.

When you did it, how did you know there were no more BTs?
What signal did the needle give?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189324">Spike</a>.</p>
<p>When you did it, how did you know there were no more BTs?<br />
What signal did the needle give?</p>
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		By: Rozsa		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-452124</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 13:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189013&quot;&gt;thegman77&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi, I got stuck on OT II and have been very curious since then what the specific EP of OT II is. Thank you for writing to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189013">thegman77</a>.</p>
<p>Hi, I got stuck on OT II and have been very curious since then what the specific EP of OT II is. Thank you for writing to me.</p>
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		By: Rozsa		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-450768</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-188865&quot;&gt;clearlypissedoff&lt;/a&gt;.

For me, OT II was like that. I&#039;m not finished. What was the OT II EP for you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-188865">clearlypissedoff</a>.</p>
<p>For me, OT II was like that. I&#8217;m not finished. What was the OT II EP for you</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189489</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2017 14:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189232&quot;&gt;otviii@hushmail.com&lt;/a&gt;.

Does the meter react to:

BTS
Helotrobus 
Mars implant stations 
Being thrown into Volcanos
Having doll bodies
Creating baby farms
Blowing up planets
R6 implant
Implanted crucifixions (Christ as Everyman)
The Coffee grinder implant
The heaven implant
The Weeper Implant
Druggie BTs
Clustered BTs



On lurkers, these weird delusional things listed above were found on the emeter by L Ron Hubbard. 
Take that into consideration when people are promoting the accuracy of the emeter.

The emeter is a tool that collapses the boundaries between imagination and reality. 

It can help from time to time but it also leads to mental and character distortions. True believing Scientologists believe all of these things listed above are real.

Scientology, the emeter, is the Game of Russian Roulette with your life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189232">otviii@hushmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>Does the meter react to:</p>
<p>BTS<br />
Helotrobus<br />
Mars implant stations<br />
Being thrown into Volcanos<br />
Having doll bodies<br />
Creating baby farms<br />
Blowing up planets<br />
R6 implant<br />
Implanted crucifixions (Christ as Everyman)<br />
The Coffee grinder implant<br />
The heaven implant<br />
The Weeper Implant<br />
Druggie BTs<br />
Clustered BTs</p>
<p>On lurkers, these weird delusional things listed above were found on the emeter by L Ron Hubbard.<br />
Take that into consideration when people are promoting the accuracy of the emeter.</p>
<p>The emeter is a tool that collapses the boundaries between imagination and reality. </p>
<p>It can help from time to time but it also leads to mental and character distortions. True believing Scientologists believe all of these things listed above are real.</p>
<p>Scientology, the emeter, is the Game of Russian Roulette with your life.</p>
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		By: Jill Hunter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189335&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

How could you sell anyone on past lives if you tell them they were a slug?  You were a rabid dog doesn&#039;t fly as well as *You were an Indian Princess*.

The negative aspects were never explored.  You were always a brave warrior.  You were always a beautiful queen.  

The more shine you gave them on a past life, the more you can charge them to remember it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189335">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>How could you sell anyone on past lives if you tell them they were a slug?  You were a rabid dog doesn&#8217;t fly as well as *You were an Indian Princess*.</p>
<p>The negative aspects were never explored.  You were always a brave warrior.  You were always a beautiful queen.  </p>
<p>The more shine you gave them on a past life, the more you can charge them to remember it.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189335</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2017 19:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189221&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve thought that too Peace Maker. Especially in Scientology. On the path I am on now I do not give much mind to past lives. The doctrine is unnecessary for meditation. 

It&#039;s mostly used to explain conditions. 

I&#039;ve known a few Beethovens and Jesus Christs in Scientology, but never a diseased ridden dirty smelly peasant with rotten teeth. Probably a greater chance of being a smelly peasant than a Beethoven. 

Reincarnation can be used by the ego to elevate stature. It was used that was a lot in Scientology from my experience. 

Ron used it all the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189221">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought that too Peace Maker. Especially in Scientology. On the path I am on now I do not give much mind to past lives. The doctrine is unnecessary for meditation. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s mostly used to explain conditions. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve known a few Beethovens and Jesus Christs in Scientology, but never a diseased ridden dirty smelly peasant with rotten teeth. Probably a greater chance of being a smelly peasant than a Beethoven. </p>
<p>Reincarnation can be used by the ego to elevate stature. It was used that was a lot in Scientology from my experience. </p>
<p>Ron used it all the time.</p>
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		By: Spike		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189324</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2017 18:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-188966&quot;&gt;dodobird1&lt;/a&gt;.

I had lots of benefits from auditing.  This is 42 years later and I still feel that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-188966">dodobird1</a>.</p>
<p>I had lots of benefits from auditing.  This is 42 years later and I still feel that way.</p>
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		By: otviii@hushmail.com		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189232</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2017 05:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189223&quot;&gt;pixie stix&lt;/a&gt;.

If you want a real answer, watch Aftermath and keep reading. In simple terms, auditing is about answering the questions being asked of you by an auditor and they can be either &quot;happy&quot; or &quot;sad&quot; in your terms. In some auditing, you recount your happy/&quot;pleasure&quot; moments and it&#039;s all positive and happy. In other auditing, you are intentionally addressing problem areas in the hopes of seeing them for what they and thus diminishing their effect over you, resulting in a happy feeling as the outcome. So no, it&#039;s not about being depressed. As for the meter, a trained auditor can tell if the meter is reading on body motion or thoughts as drills are done for both to differentiate. A meter can be seen to read on a person who is being completely still while asked a &quot;loaded&quot; question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189223">pixie stix</a>.</p>
<p>If you want a real answer, watch Aftermath and keep reading. In simple terms, auditing is about answering the questions being asked of you by an auditor and they can be either &#8220;happy&#8221; or &#8220;sad&#8221; in your terms. In some auditing, you recount your happy/&#8221;pleasure&#8221; moments and it&#8217;s all positive and happy. In other auditing, you are intentionally addressing problem areas in the hopes of seeing them for what they and thus diminishing their effect over you, resulting in a happy feeling as the outcome. So no, it&#8217;s not about being depressed. As for the meter, a trained auditor can tell if the meter is reading on body motion or thoughts as drills are done for both to differentiate. A meter can be seen to read on a person who is being completely still while asked a &#8220;loaded&#8221; question.</p>
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		By: pixie stix		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Forgive my ignorance,but why is it assumed that the movement on the emeter is from someone&#039;s thoughts? Why can&#039;t it be something from inside the body?  Also,I&#039;ve been wondering,why is it always so depressing,insisting that something has to be wrong with you.are you not ever allowed to be happy &#038;have a nice day?I couldn&#039;t be a part of something always telling me there&#039;s something wrong with me.put downs.can&#039;t find something to put u down for in this lifetime,find something from a past life to bring you down.how negative.no thanks. (How does that make one happy?constant negativity)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive my ignorance,but why is it assumed that the movement on the emeter is from someone&#8217;s thoughts? Why can&#8217;t it be something from inside the body?  Also,I&#8217;ve been wondering,why is it always so depressing,insisting that something has to be wrong with you.are you not ever allowed to be happy &amp;have a nice day?I couldn&#8217;t be a part of something always telling me there&#8217;s something wrong with me.put downs.can&#8217;t find something to put u down for in this lifetime,find something from a past life to bring you down.how negative.no thanks. (How does that make one happy?constant negativity)</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189222</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189200&quot;&gt;#1 Son&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, Hubbard actually invalidated the doctrine of reincarnation, and how souls evolve. The doctrine of evolution and reincarnation was shot out of the philosophical sky by Ron. 

His version was the eternal individual thetan who plays games and got stuck by being victims of evil electrical machines and evil implanters. 

The doctrine of evolving from lower life forms to higher, that Hindus, Buddhists and scientists promote, was considered an implant by Mr.Smarty Pants.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/#comment-189200">#1 Son</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, Hubbard actually invalidated the doctrine of reincarnation, and how souls evolve. The doctrine of evolution and reincarnation was shot out of the philosophical sky by Ron. </p>
<p>His version was the eternal individual thetan who plays games and got stuck by being victims of evil electrical machines and evil implanters. </p>
<p>The doctrine of evolving from lower life forms to higher, that Hindus, Buddhists and scientists promote, was considered an implant by Mr.Smarty Pants.</p>
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