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		By: Episode 52: The Bridge Deep Dive Part 3 with Vicki Marshall		</title>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271828&quot;&gt;Out for Good&lt;/a&gt;.

OUt for Good.  I got goosebumps reading your post.  This makes my day to know that someone who was so entrenched in Sc that they did all training and all auditing that was there, actually watched The  Aftermath show and started allowing themselves to look after that.  That is so great that you did that.  Do you have family still in the church?  I hope they have the courage to watch Leah and Mike&#039;s show too.

You said  you noticed that, &quot;Most scientologists get worse over time and are crippled and failing in life. &quot;  This is true for me too.  I noticed it around me and in myself too.  I told a friend of mine that I was doing way better in life when I was just new in Scn, and was below the level of Clear and had no auditor training at all.  That was the height of my success and good life and it all went downhill from there until I was on OT VII and broke, not doing well in a job, on and on.  I had that cog and immediately couldn&#039;t have that.  Not after all the training and auditing I&#039;d done.  It would make me wrong to have that cog.  So the cognitive dissonance kicked in hard and I decided not to look at how I was doing before and after and just compartmentalized it.  Wow.  Imagine a cognition of that magnitude and just squelching it.  I did just that  and I bet many in the church are doing it.  That is why Mike and Leah&#039;s Aftermath show is so important.  It gets people to really look and think and research more and some eventually leave as a result.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271828">Out for Good</a>.</p>
<p>OUt for Good.  I got goosebumps reading your post.  This makes my day to know that someone who was so entrenched in Sc that they did all training and all auditing that was there, actually watched The  Aftermath show and started allowing themselves to look after that.  That is so great that you did that.  Do you have family still in the church?  I hope they have the courage to watch Leah and Mike&#8217;s show too.</p>
<p>You said  you noticed that, &#8220;Most scientologists get worse over time and are crippled and failing in life. &#8221;  This is true for me too.  I noticed it around me and in myself too.  I told a friend of mine that I was doing way better in life when I was just new in Scn, and was below the level of Clear and had no auditor training at all.  That was the height of my success and good life and it all went downhill from there until I was on OT VII and broke, not doing well in a job, on and on.  I had that cog and immediately couldn&#8217;t have that.  Not after all the training and auditing I&#8217;d done.  It would make me wrong to have that cog.  So the cognitive dissonance kicked in hard and I decided not to look at how I was doing before and after and just compartmentalized it.  Wow.  Imagine a cognition of that magnitude and just squelching it.  I did just that  and I bet many in the church are doing it.  That is why Mike and Leah&#8217;s Aftermath show is so important.  It gets people to really look and think and research more and some eventually leave as a result.</p>
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		By: Out for Good		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271478&quot;&gt;Francis Khoury&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes - &quot;Eat or be eaten&quot; Francis.  Thank you.  I do get that now.  Scientology will chew you up and spit you out and leave you for dead after taking and consuming all of your resources.   Scientology will leave you broke and broken and then blame you.  I have seen most people in Scientology treated this way -  used and abused.]]></description>
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<p>Yes &#8211; &#8220;Eat or be eaten&#8221; Francis.  Thank you.  I do get that now.  Scientology will chew you up and spit you out and leave you for dead after taking and consuming all of your resources.   Scientology will leave you broke and broken and then blame you.  I have seen most people in Scientology treated this way &#8211;  used and abused.</p>
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		By: Out for Good		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 13:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271389&quot;&gt;pluvo&lt;/a&gt;.

Pluvo - thank you for your kind words and understanding.  Frozen - YES!  It is a roller coaster ride.  I get triggered by so many things.  I just listened to a you tube video about the malignant narcissist and gas lighting today.  Wow - That is how Scientology fooled us all.  Gas lighting is SOP in Scientology.  Scientology is a malignant narcissist that uses gas lighting to trick and deceive.  The lies are huge!]]></description>
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<p>Pluvo &#8211; thank you for your kind words and understanding.  Frozen &#8211; YES!  It is a roller coaster ride.  I get triggered by so many things.  I just listened to a you tube video about the malignant narcissist and gas lighting today.  Wow &#8211; That is how Scientology fooled us all.  Gas lighting is SOP in Scientology.  Scientology is a malignant narcissist that uses gas lighting to trick and deceive.  The lies are huge!</p>
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		By: Out for Good		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 13:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271362&quot;&gt;Ann Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Ann.  You are a sweetheart.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you Ann.  You are a sweetheart.</p>
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		By: Out for Good		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Out for Good]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 13:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271347&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Cindy - thank you.  The Ah-ha moment.  Hmmmmm.  There were a ton of them over the years but the Scientological traps were many and the traps coupled with the carrot on a stick kept me in waaaaaay too long.  The traps were hard to free myself from.  I did all of the auditing and training services and I got worse and my life got worse.  Then applied the PTS / SP tech and disconnected from friends and family that did not agree with Scientology or Hubbard and had the balls to say so.  Once I started to look and go down the rabbit hole to the truth - I realized that THEY WERE ALL RIGHT and I immediately reconnected with them all and told them they were right and that I was sorry.  They also watched Mike and Leah so they forgave me very quickly.    Also - what I noticed is Scientologists don&#039;t care about anyone.  There is no love or care.  No one helps you.  Ethics is crazy.  I noticed that Most scientologists get worse over time and are crippled and failing in life.  My Ah-ha moment:  I watched Mike and Leah on A&#038;E.   I watched Scientology - the Aftermath.   The truth set me free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271347">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Cindy &#8211; thank you.  The Ah-ha moment.  Hmmmmm.  There were a ton of them over the years but the Scientological traps were many and the traps coupled with the carrot on a stick kept me in waaaaaay too long.  The traps were hard to free myself from.  I did all of the auditing and training services and I got worse and my life got worse.  Then applied the PTS / SP tech and disconnected from friends and family that did not agree with Scientology or Hubbard and had the balls to say so.  Once I started to look and go down the rabbit hole to the truth &#8211; I realized that THEY WERE ALL RIGHT and I immediately reconnected with them all and told them they were right and that I was sorry.  They also watched Mike and Leah so they forgave me very quickly.    Also &#8211; what I noticed is Scientologists don&#8217;t care about anyone.  There is no love or care.  No one helps you.  Ethics is crazy.  I noticed that Most scientologists get worse over time and are crippled and failing in life.  My Ah-ha moment:  I watched Mike and Leah on A&amp;E.   I watched Scientology &#8211; the Aftermath.   The truth set me free.</p>
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		By: Out for Good		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Out for Good]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 13:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271763&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard - Thank you.  I am happy I made you laugh.  WINNING!  LOL  
I stopped joking around when I got into Scientology.  It was a high crime.  Now - I will poke fun at Scientology and Hubbard every chance I get.  The little dwarf Miscavige too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271763">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard &#8211; Thank you.  I am happy I made you laugh.  WINNING!  LOL<br />
I stopped joking around when I got into Scientology.  It was a high crime.  Now &#8211; I will poke fun at Scientology and Hubbard every chance I get.  The little dwarf Miscavige too.</p>
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		By: Out for Good		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Out for Good]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 13:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271288&quot;&gt;Kim&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Kim.  We are all warriors together.  We were in a Concentration Camp of the Mind.  We freed ourselves and we need to help free others.  Keep telling people the truth about Scientology.  I make it my goal each day to tell 10 people about the Scientology scam.  I meet and talk to a ton of people each day and I get paid to do it.  I love that I can suppress Scientology and get paid to do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271288">Kim</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Kim.  We are all warriors together.  We were in a Concentration Camp of the Mind.  We freed ourselves and we need to help free others.  Keep telling people the truth about Scientology.  I make it my goal each day to tell 10 people about the Scientology scam.  I meet and talk to a ton of people each day and I get paid to do it.  I love that I can suppress Scientology and get paid to do it.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2019 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271581&quot;&gt;Out for Good&lt;/a&gt;.

Out for Good - Everyone appreciates your honesty and sincerity and what you&#039;ve been through is no laughing matter.

However................,&quot;........one of the most effective BLOWS to Scientology since Xenu threw the aliens in the volcanoes and blew them up with H-Bombs.&quot; laughter! That quip hit my funny bone. Thanks for the laugh, OfG. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271581">Out for Good</a>.</p>
<p>Out for Good &#8211; Everyone appreciates your honesty and sincerity and what you&#8217;ve been through is no laughing matter.</p>
<p>However&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.,&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..one of the most effective BLOWS to Scientology since Xenu threw the aliens in the volcanoes and blew them up with H-Bombs.&#8221; laughter! That quip hit my funny bone. Thanks for the laugh, OfG. 🙂</p>
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		By: Out for Good		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Out for Good]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2019 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271278&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Peacemaker - thank you for your support.  How do I &quot;realize&quot; that membership is at an all time low?  Great question.  Here is the answer - short, sweet and works standardly when applied. I actually LOOKED!  I actually went around to the Ideal Orgs and observed with my own eyes the facts that they are all empty.  The Ideal Orgs are nothing but  vacant and dead.    Our tiny Org has been shrinking every year for a long time and you get used to seeing people leave all the time.  The tech keeps members silent as to where they are.  Staff will lie about where they are.  It did not take me going OT to finally get it.  The propaganda says one thing.  When one looks as LRH says to - one sees a totally different thing.  Every Scientologist knows Scientology lies.  Hell - we lie to ourselves the entire time we are in.  It just takes a bit of confront to do something about the lies - like LOOK, KNOW and then  leave.  The lies never end.  Pretty soon one does not know the difference between make believe, pretending and the truth.  It is very destabilizing and makes one dependent on Scientology.   Once you get out, you start to feel more and more stable because the truth is stable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-real-story-of-the-freewinds/#comment-271278">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Peacemaker &#8211; thank you for your support.  How do I &#8220;realize&#8221; that membership is at an all time low?  Great question.  Here is the answer &#8211; short, sweet and works standardly when applied. I actually LOOKED!  I actually went around to the Ideal Orgs and observed with my own eyes the facts that they are all empty.  The Ideal Orgs are nothing but  vacant and dead.    Our tiny Org has been shrinking every year for a long time and you get used to seeing people leave all the time.  The tech keeps members silent as to where they are.  Staff will lie about where they are.  It did not take me going OT to finally get it.  The propaganda says one thing.  When one looks as LRH says to &#8211; one sees a totally different thing.  Every Scientologist knows Scientology lies.  Hell &#8211; we lie to ourselves the entire time we are in.  It just takes a bit of confront to do something about the lies &#8211; like LOOK, KNOW and then  leave.  The lies never end.  Pretty soon one does not know the difference between make believe, pretending and the truth.  It is very destabilizing and makes one dependent on Scientology.   Once you get out, you start to feel more and more stable because the truth is stable.</p>
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