Simply having and talking to a friend is more valuable than all of scientology’s techniques put together, since all Hubbard’s techniques do is hypnotize the practitioners.

Can’t comment about what people think they can see or feel. No way to prove anything.

However I work all day in an office surrounded by instruments that carefully measure electromagnetic fields. They never pick up anything different when people are around. Possibly there are very weak fields, or at frequencies up in the 5G UWB region that are not measurable by what I have.

A field that deserves some basic research, but nothing I have seen so far looks very promising.

There is some question about who actually wrote or edited “Electropsychometry” and whether he was just trying to get Hubbard’s crazed followers to buy more of his meters.

In any case, we did a very exhaustive search to find any lectures that match the story about Mathison being inspired to invent the meter. None were ever found, though it is possible this was a lecture that was not recorded.

They put a clip from a lecture in one of the Tech films that supposedly matches the story, but if you look at it in context it doesn’t match at all.

Hubbard later told tall tales about experimenting with the Avometer (we have one in the shop, it looks like one of those old black Bakelite Simpson volt-ohmmeters). Then about Mathison coming up with the e-meter when hearing about it. Far more likely that Mathison knew all about the e-meter before he even met Hubbard. Apparently Jung experimented with it around the turn of the last century and rejected it even then.

Hubbard got a lot more from Mathison than otherwise. Major parts of the so-called “tech”, like the Tone Scale and creative processing (nowadays they call it guided imagery. Abandoned in the 50s by Hubbard but used in other contexts by others). I repaired one of Mathison’s Chiropractic Beep Meters and it does work, but probably doesn’t do what they think it does.

a) When I got my Introspection Rundown, it was audited by Rich Gilbert, an OT 8, really good guy was/is Rich. He and his wife were the OT 8s at CST they did the proofreading of the metal plates with OT 8 on them, I think Rich’s wife is still at CST and Rich was demoted to Gold after his RPFing. But, Rich as an OT 8 frankly answered all my suppressed questions, like, could he exteriorize at will, answer no. Could he do ESP, only to the degree that is wishy washy attained by anyone, with much error, in fact normal error percentage. He deflated my OT 8 delusional wishful thinking, that OT 8s were indeed attaining OT powers by doing the whole syllabus (“Bridge”). Rich’s normal goodness I realized was him, he brought his innate ability and decency to Sea Org, and no OT powers. He was an excellent auditor, he did the introspection Rundown first step auditing, which is a hugely tricky thing to do, it’s a “right indication” of the bad stuff that caused my mental “breakdown”. The first auditing step of the Introspection Rundown only “works” because the auditor and C/S really do the folder study deep enough to find and make a wording that is simply “given” to the preclear, and if the working of the “right indication” of what precipitated the “mental breakdown” is a huge relief. Rich and Bruce Hines did the homework for my “right indication” and I “line charged” uncontrollably for 2-3 minutes, and my Introspection Rundown was considered complete and I went on to the next step of my RPF quackery problem. So I can’t fault that smart people, Rich and Buce Hines are truly smart people, can do the Hubbard tricky quackery to some good effects, I experienced it. BUT that Rich was just a decent human being, and not “OT” was huge, it punctured why I was holding out for hope that the Sea Org and making OTs on the “Bridge” assembly line, was a valid life’s pursuit.

b) Second thing I learned on the RPF and liked, was rather the people, all the busted Sea Org members were one for one, capable people. Just NOT having post responsibilities, just being in RPF positions in the RPF, was a natural relief environment, people could just chill out, and I’d say almost all of them, for most of the time, were back to their normal selves in life. Not being wound up in normal Sea Org post responsibilities, is just such a relief ,and people could just be their normal prior to Sea Org selves. (Second or third gen Sea Org members who hadn’t have lives prior to being in Sea Org, are a different kettle of fish, they don’t have some basic personality to fall back into;and my years in the PAC RPF which was majority second or third gen Sea Org members, was by itself something that needs be written about more carefully.)

Scientology Sea Org life as told the last 10 plus years by ex’s is so tragic to hear. I didn’t realize that if someone doesn’t have a life prior to Scientology/Sea Org, they really have nothing to “go back to.”

Scientology’s future, as more and more second and third gen Scientologists are the one’s “left standing” “left holding the bag” will not have the “viewpoint” necessary to see the 1950s era critics of Hubbard views.

Hubbard is a failure for reasons the older 1950s era first gen contemporaries of Hubbard saw Hubbard as a really bad alternative quack therapy “founder.” Dianetics is really bad quack therapy, just ludicrous, when you take it in context.

I think, and hope, all second and third gen ex’s take a read of two 1950s writings, and try to grasp that Hubbard was an oddball crackpot type of person, taken in context.

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/hayakawa.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fads_and_Fallacies_in_the_Name_of_Science

it’s always worth it to read Roy Wallis “The Road to Total Freedom” has loads of 1950s era Scientology history in it.

Then it’s always good for second gen, third gen ex’s to read Jon Atack’s books, and Russell Miller’s book.

The devastating critics of Hubbard from day one, have never been wrong.

Dianetics and Scientology do not merit people’s being so drawn into it.

Sadly.

It’s a battle of words. Hubbard’s voluminous words vs the criticism validly putting Hubbard’s whole output in context.

Ron was a crackpot.

After I left scn in 1980 I did two or three “sessions” with another ex who did some type of “healing” or body procedure. You would lie face down on his portable table and he would pass his hands over your body about six inches above and apparently could detect “stuck or blocked body flows” if you want to call it that. In one of the sessions I said, “Steve, I’m feeling this great flow.” He replied. “Yes. It’s light red and flowing from your head and down through your feet.” That was exactly what I was experiencing.

Another time I had severely wrenched my knee and couldn’t stand up and was crawling around my apartment on my hands and knees. I decided to give Steve a call and see if he could do anything for me. He did a healing on the phone and got me up walking around again.

Some people say they can see auras. A scientific experiment might be getting some of these people to describe the auras of a test group and see how closely they agree. Probably won’t happen. No money in it. Oh well.

Here’s the wiki link. There seems to be inconsistencies in the article but it’s still a short and interesting read. I didn’t know he was also a writer and wrote some science fiction, right up Hubbard’s alley. Peas in a pod. haha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volney_Mathison

From Wikipedia

In 1935, Mathison was employed building short wave radios.[3] He was also a chiropractor and psychoanalyst.[1][11][12][13] According to some critics of Scientology, Mathison designed and built the first E-meter in the 1940s,[1][14] which he called a Mathison Electropsychometer,[15] or E-meter, to read electrodermal activity.[11] However, Mathison wrote in his own book, Electropsychometry, that he first began considering the subject of E-meters when he attended a series of lectures in 1950[16] and other writers identify the lecturer as L. Ron Hubbard.[17]

The E-meter “has a needle that swings back and forth across a scale when a patient holds on to two electrical contacts”.[1] He used the device to investigate the psychoanalytic problems of his patients.[15] He then employed self-hypnosis tapes, and instructed his patients to use them to address those issues.[15] The device became popular and was used among other chiropractors.[1]
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And so on and so forth. Lol

PeaceMaker – I agree. The guy never said what type of scn “procedures” he himself is still engaging in. As some kind of Indy he believes he’s performing a valuable service for current and future people doing scn or scn type auditing or counselling. Time will tell when he gets his meter built and on the market if anyone buys it. Good luck. I guess Volney Mathieson (sp?) did okay.

No, that was supposed to be a deep dark secret even from me (though I did overhear Marc Ferreira and John McCormick talking about it). Many have tried to measure electromagnetic fields and so on around the body but there is no evidence of it as far as I know.

Kirlian photography just shows artifacts from high voltage. You get the same effects with dead plants and wet objects of all kinds.