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		By: Valerie Feria-Isacks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie Feria-Isacks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 06:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-6057&quot;&gt;Barfly&lt;/a&gt;.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_A._Kent will take them off your hands though I&#039;m not sure the cheapest way to ship to Canada.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-6057">Barfly</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_A._Kent" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_A._Kent</a> will take them off your hands though I&#8217;m not sure the cheapest way to ship to Canada.</p>
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		By: Valerie Feria Isacks		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-401130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie Feria Isacks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2021 02:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-263367&quot;&gt;PDS&lt;/a&gt;.

You don&#039;t heard about the aliens etc until much later in the process, years later in fact! Please watch the episode of Mike &#038; Leah&#039;s show with Paul Haggis, he does a good job of explaining it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-263367">PDS</a>.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t heard about the aliens etc until much later in the process, years later in fact! Please watch the episode of Mike &amp; Leah&#8217;s show with Paul Haggis, he does a good job of explaining it.</p>
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		By: PDS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PDS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh my word!! What kind of foolish &quot;religion&quot; is this? Seriously, aliens and critters and stuff? If there something wrong with your brains that you believe this crap? L Ron Hubbard has taken everyone for a fool and is still smiling in his grave. It boggles the mind]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my word!! What kind of foolish &#8220;religion&#8221; is this? Seriously, aliens and critters and stuff? If there something wrong with your brains that you believe this crap? L Ron Hubbard has taken everyone for a fool and is still smiling in his grave. It boggles the mind</p>
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		By: Sue Harrison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sue Harrison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2019 03:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am seeking information on my father Bill Vlado Peharda (Bozic) who was a Scientology &quot;priest&quot;.
He married Mari-Like Hill 30 October 1981 Morninghill, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa.
I believe Mari immigrated to Australia with Bill but soon divorced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am seeking information on my father Bill Vlado Peharda (Bozic) who was a Scientology &#8220;priest&#8221;.<br />
He married Mari-Like Hill 30 October 1981 Morninghill, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa.<br />
I believe Mari immigrated to Australia with Bill but soon divorced.</p>
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		By: Marc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2017 06:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At level 8 I can regenerate flesh wounds and d cast magic missiles. .no.. wait..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At level 8 I can regenerate flesh wounds and d cast magic missiles. .no.. wait..</p>
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		By: Barfly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barfly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I got out of Scientology in 1990, and I have only occasionally read articles about how the cult is doing. I just figured Scientology was still expanding as that is all they had ever touted the whole time I was on and off lines from 1977-1990. In 1990 I routed out in a condition of doubt as a public Scientologist.
In January 2013 I was reged over the phone from LA org. for the Basic Books extension course. I blitzed through the first book, and was praised for how good a student I was, yada yada yada. Since I was having wins and they still needed money, they reged me for the Congress Lectures extension course (or some such thing), and two hours after I went to sleep I woke up in a state of panic realizing that I had made a big mistake. 
I got on the internet and was amazed to read all the entheta regarding the current state of Scientology and that David Miscavige was the cause of much of it. They tried to reel me back in, but by that time I had changed my cell phone number and disconnected my land line., and I have been out of comm ever since. Now I have 5K of books and lectures which are enough to cover a large part of the floor of a big closet I have in my spare bedroom. I would rather have the money, but I am not going to go through with asking for a refund because of the stress it would place on me--moreover, who knows, they might spy on me. I might even be declared, but of course that would not really matter.
I have much respect for all of you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got out of Scientology in 1990, and I have only occasionally read articles about how the cult is doing. I just figured Scientology was still expanding as that is all they had ever touted the whole time I was on and off lines from 1977-1990. In 1990 I routed out in a condition of doubt as a public Scientologist.<br />
In January 2013 I was reged over the phone from LA org. for the Basic Books extension course. I blitzed through the first book, and was praised for how good a student I was, yada yada yada. Since I was having wins and they still needed money, they reged me for the Congress Lectures extension course (or some such thing), and two hours after I went to sleep I woke up in a state of panic realizing that I had made a big mistake.<br />
I got on the internet and was amazed to read all the entheta regarding the current state of Scientology and that David Miscavige was the cause of much of it. They tried to reel me back in, but by that time I had changed my cell phone number and disconnected my land line., and I have been out of comm ever since. Now I have 5K of books and lectures which are enough to cover a large part of the floor of a big closet I have in my spare bedroom. I would rather have the money, but I am not going to go through with asking for a refund because of the stress it would place on me&#8211;moreover, who knows, they might spy on me. I might even be declared, but of course that would not really matter.<br />
I have much respect for all of you.</p>
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		By: Wendy Munro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy Munro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-5570&quot;&gt;Rine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Rine, I agree. I know those people very well. &quot;WH&quot; is a Pretoria public, who has probably made the largest donations in South Africa. He has a heart of gold. Kind, sweet.......  He gets the red carpet treatment, and is heavily invested in the ideal org project. He could not possibly pay for the whole project himself, and to make sense of his donations, he has to get others on board. But he is a very kind hearted guy, and that is what the RCS takes advantage of.  &quot;JG&quot; is on the OTC, and it is her job to get the ideal org project done.

If only WH knew what I knew - especially about the debit order system that we had going there. I had a huge row with Elmien Lochner and the ED Joburg North, because the debit orders were signed up for two years - and when the two years were up, they were content to leave them in place unless the public noticed it and cancelled. i.e they were going to keep taking money off people&#039;s account after the expiry of two years. They told me they had legal advice on this!! (I am a lawyer - that &quot;advice&quot; was crap). When I said to Elmien, &quot;How can you do this to the field? And how can you do this to WH who has given you so much?&quot; she looked embarrassed. Eventually, the the debit orders were stopped and people were invited to sign new debit orders if they wanted to.  Go figure. I put their ethics in and I am the SP according to them. BS! WH and the rest of the field are ignorant of how they were nearly screwed over on that cycle.  I almost wish I had let it alone and then the field would have seen their true colours. But even then I just thought, its our guys (badly hatted, dodgy ethics) in Africa who do this shit, it wouldn&#039;t happen in the USA. Hah! Little did I know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-5570">Rine</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Rine, I agree. I know those people very well. &#8220;WH&#8221; is a Pretoria public, who has probably made the largest donations in South Africa. He has a heart of gold. Kind, sweet&#8230;&#8230;.  He gets the red carpet treatment, and is heavily invested in the ideal org project. He could not possibly pay for the whole project himself, and to make sense of his donations, he has to get others on board. But he is a very kind hearted guy, and that is what the RCS takes advantage of.  &#8220;JG&#8221; is on the OTC, and it is her job to get the ideal org project done.</p>
<p>If only WH knew what I knew &#8211; especially about the debit order system that we had going there. I had a huge row with Elmien Lochner and the ED Joburg North, because the debit orders were signed up for two years &#8211; and when the two years were up, they were content to leave them in place unless the public noticed it and cancelled. i.e they were going to keep taking money off people&#8217;s account after the expiry of two years. They told me they had legal advice on this!! (I am a lawyer &#8211; that &#8220;advice&#8221; was crap). When I said to Elmien, &#8220;How can you do this to the field? And how can you do this to WH who has given you so much?&#8221; she looked embarrassed. Eventually, the the debit orders were stopped and people were invited to sign new debit orders if they wanted to.  Go figure. I put their ethics in and I am the SP according to them. BS! WH and the rest of the field are ignorant of how they were nearly screwed over on that cycle.  I almost wish I had let it alone and then the field would have seen their true colours. But even then I just thought, its our guys (badly hatted, dodgy ethics) in Africa who do this shit, it wouldn&#8217;t happen in the USA. Hah! Little did I know.</p>
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		By: Lars Asplund		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lars Asplund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the end there will be maybe 50 high rollers left as they will
have a difficult time to justify their millions of dollar mistake.
LRH had a remedy for that too: the grades of a. Moving out
of fixed conditions. b. Freedom from dramatizations. c.
freedom from overwhelm and just about every other grade
or level.
Better not give them any more auditing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end there will be maybe 50 high rollers left as they will<br />
have a difficult time to justify their millions of dollar mistake.<br />
LRH had a remedy for that too: the grades of a. Moving out<br />
of fixed conditions. b. Freedom from dramatizations. c.<br />
freedom from overwhelm and just about every other grade<br />
or level.<br />
Better not give them any more auditing.</p>
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		By: SirRalliart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SirRalliart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-5513&quot;&gt;Dave Fagen&lt;/a&gt;.

I remember those days, Dave.  Luckily I was balding and heavier than the young bucks, so they always put me way in the back, if ever putting me in a shot - LOL!  I often remember them searching out the few black people to &quot;add color to the shot.&quot;  I actually heard them use that phrase often.

That place is a joke.  The people running it are either ancient ex-CMO angry assholes or 2nd gen teenagers who know nothing of the real world.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-state-of-scientology-in-south-africa/#comment-5513">Dave Fagen</a>.</p>
<p>I remember those days, Dave.  Luckily I was balding and heavier than the young bucks, so they always put me way in the back, if ever putting me in a shot &#8211; LOL!  I often remember them searching out the few black people to &#8220;add color to the shot.&#8221;  I actually heard them use that phrase often.</p>
<p>That place is a joke.  The people running it are either ancient ex-CMO angry assholes or 2nd gen teenagers who know nothing of the real world.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		By: Rine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My favorite part is &quot; I am also very happy to se the beautiful ideal org in portland, it is a very big size, the building is beautiful, and I am really happy to see that Org open.&quot;
That comment sure doesnt seem to be inserted with a shoe horn. It also really sounds natural, very spontaneous, like comming from the person himself, truly, it didnt remind me of a hypnotized cult follower!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part is &#8221; I am also very happy to se the beautiful ideal org in portland, it is a very big size, the building is beautiful, and I am really happy to see that Org open.&#8221;<br />
That comment sure doesnt seem to be inserted with a shoe horn. It also really sounds natural, very spontaneous, like comming from the person himself, truly, it didnt remind me of a hypnotized cult follower!</p>
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