I can second exactly what Mike has said and expand on this a little bit more. David was declared an SP but he had what you call ethics protection so it didn’t go through.

Yes he has the ‘God Complex – Superior Being service facsimile’. He is always right and cannot be wrong or challenged….. now challenge is an interesting word in the bank and OT Case.

If I had the chance to say to him; ” Hi David, pleased to meet you, how are your clusters of black thetans’ coming along?”.

I can assure that will shut him down by merely pointing out what he is actively doing.

OTVIII, I am a fully blown CLASS VIII interned auditor and don’t take nonsense. There is no new OTVIII, it has always been the same.

First on the check sheet is to read Handbook for Preclears. Make sure you are down pat on it. Being Class VIII I don’t see why on the Freewinds, I have to do this when I already have certainty and read it 5 times over on the SHSBC.

There is such a thing as ‘over-run and protest’. I agree with number of times over equals certainty. There becomes a point that number of times over equals over-run and it becomes an implant full of charge and thetan invalidation that once you have got it it, don’t run it anymore; otherwise you will end up in review and even the C/S doesn’t exactly know what to do.

The rule is on the SHSBC original course you read the books 5 times over. As a Supervisor you only need to read these books maybe twice as not to over-run and the moment you get bogged down, you have to do a metered review. If you are OT VII completion read the Handbook for Preclears and save yourself a week on the freewinds doing OTVIII

I think they assign each country/org a certain set of clear numbers…ie.. south african clears would maybe start from 6000, uk clears from 4500 – 5000, etc. Not saying I’m certain of this but have heard something similar mentioned before.

They don’t have the money to fix the sign….

You know, guys, I just want/need to clarify something: I’m not embarrassed about what I BELIEVED. I’m embarrassed that an organization with which I was closely associated for so many years is and was at the time, a CRIMINAL organization. The criminality didn’t touch me personally and I honestly didn’t know and I left because I considered them OFF POLICY and OUT TECH. I never dreamed they were also criminal. When I went UTR I started reading the internet. Little by little I began to understand that I was in a nest of criminals and their enablers! In brief, again, its not what I believed, its that I was ONE OF THEM, believing (as a somewhat sheltered public) believing that I was part of an ETHICAL group. Nothing could have been further from the truth. That’s why I’m embarrassed and don’t want to be linked with Co$ in any internet search. And thanks for reading and responding to what I wrote!

Very true. But ‘atone,’ ‘reparations’ and ‘repentant’ do apply to those who have screwed up (real or imagined) who have to “make up damage” to the cherch or mi$cavige. They have to atone, make reparations and repent all the time! Usually with giving over more and more money. The cherch never apologies, and takes NO responsibility for anything, yet they think anyone who has even looked at them crosseyed has to propitiate to them.

After the O,H,A and N fell off the sign 😉

Thank you for the insight.

Aquamarine, that indeed is all very telling! Is it true that the only people who harass the general public with body routing are SO members then? Do non-SO staff workers (who presumably have SOME idea of the crappy name of Scientology in the world) ever publicly stand outside their org and get people’s attention or do they skulk from their car into the building and hide?