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		By: Nana Lynn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-209219&quot;&gt;#1 Son&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much for doing that!!]]></description>
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<p>Thanks so much for doing that!!</p>
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		By: #1 Son		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2018 03:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-209177&quot;&gt;Nana Lynn&lt;/a&gt;.

I am a contract manager by profession...I read complicated documents and by the nature of what I do, I am regularly looking for timelines, precedence, etc.  I&#039;ve also become a student of the biased news media.  All they have to do is report something out of order context, or highlight one fact above another and suddenly Paul is the one being sued instead of his extortionist.

I just read carefully the Variety story about Paul Haggis, noted what was reported and did not draw the conclusion they wanted me to.]]></description>
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<p>I am a contract manager by profession&#8230;I read complicated documents and by the nature of what I do, I am regularly looking for timelines, precedence, etc.  I&#8217;ve also become a student of the biased news media.  All they have to do is report something out of order context, or highlight one fact above another and suddenly Paul is the one being sued instead of his extortionist.</p>
<p>I just read carefully the Variety story about Paul Haggis, noted what was reported and did not draw the conclusion they wanted me to.</p>
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		By: Nana Lynn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 21:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-207379&quot;&gt;#1 Son&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike, thanks for a great post. I have not been on your blog in a while - lot going on. I&#039;m sure you heard that Michelle&#039;s book is being released in a matter of months. Won&#039;t the OSA trolls have a ball with that! I&#039;ll now read your post on whistleblowers!]]></description>
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<p>Mike, thanks for a great post. I have not been on your blog in a while &#8211; lot going on. I&#8217;m sure you heard that Michelle&#8217;s book is being released in a matter of months. Won&#8217;t the OSA trolls have a ball with that! I&#8217;ll now read your post on whistleblowers!</p>
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		By: Nana Lynn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 21:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-207379&quot;&gt;#1 Son&lt;/a&gt;.

Your timeline is really interesting! How do you know these facts? They should be out there in the media every time there is an article on Paul.]]></description>
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<p>Your timeline is really interesting! How do you know these facts? They should be out there in the media every time there is an article on Paul.</p>
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		By: Nollaig Breathnach		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-207280&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

As someone who has worked with victims and sex offenders for over 30 years,..I always believe the victim, until I don&#039;t.  I believe I can tell the difference between fact and fiction in these matters and this claim against Paul Haggis stinks to high heaven.  No true victim of rape who speaks out wants money more than she/he wants justice.  Tell Paul to hold tight,  truth will out]]></description>
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<p>As someone who has worked with victims and sex offenders for over 30 years,..I always believe the victim, until I don&#8217;t.  I believe I can tell the difference between fact and fiction in these matters and this claim against Paul Haggis stinks to high heaven.  No true victim of rape who speaks out wants money more than she/he wants justice.  Tell Paul to hold tight,  truth will out</p>
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		By: #1 Son		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2018 05:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is anyone else getting tired of the news media putting the Breest lawsuit out of chronological order in their &quot;reporting&quot;?  The Variety article from 15 Dec 17, headlines &quot;Paul Haggis is Hit with Lawsuit for Alleged Rape.&quot;  

And buried down in the article is this gem of truth...

&quot;Haggis filed his own suit Friday afternoon, a few hours before Breest filed hers. In his complaint, Haggis concedes that he had a “friendly, and at times flirtatious, relationship” with Breest. But he adamantly denies her rape allegation.

Haggis states that Breest’s lawyer sent him a letter on Nov. 16, which included her unfiled complaint and invited him to respond if he wanted to reach an out-of-court settlement. In a subsequent phone call on Dec. 11, he said the lawyer demanded $9 million.&quot;

Timeline people...
Extortion letter 11/16/17
Telephone demand from Breest&#039;s lawyer 12/11/17
Paul Haggis lawsuits against Breest 12/15/17
Breast lawsuit...1 hour later 12/15/17

Breast had no response to the threats against Paul...almost a month later her lawyer tries to get the $9m over the phone.  Gee in that month didn&#039;t she think it would be appropriate to report this heinous experience to authorities?  No?  Ask for money to keep it quiet, that protects other women from a potential predator...oh wait...no it doesn&#039;t.

This is NOT characteristic of the #Me Too movement!  Those victims are standing up, together, with each other, for justice.  This Breest and her lawyer are opportunists and therefore it smacks of $camology.

This is not unknown.

Oh boy...I would not want to be her when her case crumbles.  Wondering what criminal charges Paul could file against her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone else getting tired of the news media putting the Breest lawsuit out of chronological order in their &#8220;reporting&#8221;?  The Variety article from 15 Dec 17, headlines &#8220;Paul Haggis is Hit with Lawsuit for Alleged Rape.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And buried down in the article is this gem of truth&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Haggis filed his own suit Friday afternoon, a few hours before Breest filed hers. In his complaint, Haggis concedes that he had a “friendly, and at times flirtatious, relationship” with Breest. But he adamantly denies her rape allegation.</p>
<p>Haggis states that Breest’s lawyer sent him a letter on Nov. 16, which included her unfiled complaint and invited him to respond if he wanted to reach an out-of-court settlement. In a subsequent phone call on Dec. 11, he said the lawyer demanded $9 million.&#8221;</p>
<p>Timeline people&#8230;<br />
Extortion letter 11/16/17<br />
Telephone demand from Breest&#8217;s lawyer 12/11/17<br />
Paul Haggis lawsuits against Breest 12/15/17<br />
Breast lawsuit&#8230;1 hour later 12/15/17</p>
<p>Breast had no response to the threats against Paul&#8230;almost a month later her lawyer tries to get the $9m over the phone.  Gee in that month didn&#8217;t she think it would be appropriate to report this heinous experience to authorities?  No?  Ask for money to keep it quiet, that protects other women from a potential predator&#8230;oh wait&#8230;no it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This is NOT characteristic of the #Me Too movement!  Those victims are standing up, together, with each other, for justice.  This Breest and her lawyer are opportunists and therefore it smacks of $camology.</p>
<p>This is not unknown.</p>
<p>Oh boy&#8230;I would not want to be her when her case crumbles.  Wondering what criminal charges Paul could file against her.</p>
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		By: Jeffrey Sands		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m staying Clear (pun intended) of this one....The current climate seems to me like either a Witch-Hunt (and I mean that to sound exactly like it does), or is akin to the &quot;Satanic Panic&quot; of the &#039;80&#039;s. I reserve the right to Reserve Judgement. That being said, you and Leah are doing great things by Stirring the Pot, and Paul is well, Paul - It just all seems too convenient, somehow. In the heat of the moment, the perspective of future evidence eludes. Without doubt, the Casting Couch mentality of Hollywood needed to be exposed, but to me this just seems like mass hysteria that&#039;s apparently just starting to gain momentum. How many careers will be ruined, and more importantly, how many of those will prove out have been sacrificed on the altar of unfounded and baseless accusations that are ruining many other lives than those of the accused?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m staying Clear (pun intended) of this one&#8230;.The current climate seems to me like either a Witch-Hunt (and I mean that to sound exactly like it does), or is akin to the &#8220;Satanic Panic&#8221; of the &#8217;80&#8217;s. I reserve the right to Reserve Judgement. That being said, you and Leah are doing great things by Stirring the Pot, and Paul is well, Paul &#8211; It just all seems too convenient, somehow. In the heat of the moment, the perspective of future evidence eludes. Without doubt, the Casting Couch mentality of Hollywood needed to be exposed, but to me this just seems like mass hysteria that&#8217;s apparently just starting to gain momentum. How many careers will be ruined, and more importantly, how many of those will prove out have been sacrificed on the altar of unfounded and baseless accusations that are ruining many other lives than those of the accused?</p>
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		By: Dana Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-207177&quot;&gt;jenyfurrr&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you jenyfurr
I don&#039;t blame people for having trust issues. Using a child to get close to a ex Scientology Family is low. Disgustingly so.
I am using my real name in case anyone wants to check me out. I&#039;m definitely weird, but it is my hometown motto, &quot;Keep Portland Weird.&quot; lol.
I am without my laptop so am using a cell until it comes back repaired. Then I can really research more about the topics I mentioned. I do plan to go to the forum and introduce myself. I am willing to answer any questions asked about my interests and concerns.
Buying Portland&#039;s historical buildings is puzzling and distressing. There was a law that you needed to open the building to tours for a period of time for a few years. My friend/employer bought a residence and I loved showing up without his prior knowledge, lol. I got the entire tour. It is usually only opened for certain areas. It is private property as I assume the buildings bought by Scientology are. Yet as secretive as they are? Seems odd.
There is probably a &quot;glitch&quot; they managed to bypass.
Or the laws have changed. Either way? I don&#039;t like it. Just that simple.

Oh...&quot;heathensmom&quot; is my blog sign in on WP which I started for single moms. I am again waiting for my laptop to continue with it. Just in case I am signed in when I post here.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you jenyfurr<br />
I don&#8217;t blame people for having trust issues. Using a child to get close to a ex Scientology Family is low. Disgustingly so.<br />
I am using my real name in case anyone wants to check me out. I&#8217;m definitely weird, but it is my hometown motto, &#8220;Keep Portland Weird.&#8221; lol.<br />
I am without my laptop so am using a cell until it comes back repaired. Then I can really research more about the topics I mentioned. I do plan to go to the forum and introduce myself. I am willing to answer any questions asked about my interests and concerns.<br />
Buying Portland&#8217;s historical buildings is puzzling and distressing. There was a law that you needed to open the building to tours for a period of time for a few years. My friend/employer bought a residence and I loved showing up without his prior knowledge, lol. I got the entire tour. It is usually only opened for certain areas. It is private property as I assume the buildings bought by Scientology are. Yet as secretive as they are? Seems odd.<br />
There is probably a &#8220;glitch&#8221; they managed to bypass.<br />
Or the laws have changed. Either way? I don&#8217;t like it. Just that simple.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;&#8221;heathensmom&#8221; is my blog sign in on WP which I started for single moms. I am again waiting for my laptop to continue with it. Just in case I am signed in when I post here.</p>
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		By: Meryl Weiner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-207328&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Probably because, sooner or later, anyone with more than two working brain cells would start to wonder why at least one of those poor, traumatized women wouldn&#039;t do what victims normally do if they&#039;re speaking out already - REPORT THE ALLEGED ABUSER TO THE POLICE!!!  Any thinking person would figure out soon enough that Paul Haggis was being framed.  If you&#039;re already speaking out and, like most victims, you want justice (not just $9,000,000.00), you file a report!!  Most victims of sexual assault don&#039;t tend to make the accusation public without filing a report right before or after.  I mean, what would be the point, other than to smear someone?  I should think that Mr. Haggis&#039; accusers would want justice.  You don&#039;t have any chance whatsoever of getting that without filing a report.  The only reason there would be not to file a police report after you&#039;ve already made your accusation public is that you&#039;re full of crap.  A simple, and may I say, obvious, smear job wouldn&#039;t fool most people for too long, especially with scientology being under a very uncomfortable microscope these days.  I am also very suspicious of anonymous allegations, as are many others.  I guess these women might not be &quot;thinking people,&quot; though.]]></description>
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<p>Probably because, sooner or later, anyone with more than two working brain cells would start to wonder why at least one of those poor, traumatized women wouldn&#8217;t do what victims normally do if they&#8217;re speaking out already &#8211; REPORT THE ALLEGED ABUSER TO THE POLICE!!!  Any thinking person would figure out soon enough that Paul Haggis was being framed.  If you&#8217;re already speaking out and, like most victims, you want justice (not just $9,000,000.00), you file a report!!  Most victims of sexual assault don&#8217;t tend to make the accusation public without filing a report right before or after.  I mean, what would be the point, other than to smear someone?  I should think that Mr. Haggis&#8217; accusers would want justice.  You don&#8217;t have any chance whatsoever of getting that without filing a report.  The only reason there would be not to file a police report after you&#8217;ve already made your accusation public is that you&#8217;re full of crap.  A simple, and may I say, obvious, smear job wouldn&#8217;t fool most people for too long, especially with scientology being under a very uncomfortable microscope these days.  I am also very suspicious of anonymous allegations, as are many others.  I guess these women might not be &#8220;thinking people,&#8221; though.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-debunked-conspiracy-theory-response/#comment-206971&quot;&gt;KKat&lt;/a&gt;.

Re my 11:40 am post - probably didn&#039;t word it properly - second sentence should have read:  ...these accusations would never have happened in the first place!]]></description>
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<p>Re my 11:40 am post &#8211; probably didn&#8217;t word it properly &#8211; second sentence should have read:  &#8230;these accusations would never have happened in the first place!</p>
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