God, I just have to get new reading glasses. Sorry for all typos.

Thanks for getting back to me, Peacemaker. Yes, I hear you. Very possible that other avenues to the same gains exist and for much less money.

And then as regards extraordinariness of the promises with regard to the “abilities gained”, realistic results promised wouldn’t warrant the outrageous prices they charge for courses and auditing.

Your point actually never occurred to me but, now I see (duh) its certainly the obvious reason, the common sense reason!

Aqua, I’ll grant your initial claim – but note it’s mostly or entirely benefits that could be found elsewhere, for vastly less financial expense and intangible cost (life, family, etc.).

My answer, referring back to that, is that if Scientology made more realistic promises, then they wouldn’t have any basis for selling themselves over alternatives like Dale Carnegie and Toastmasters, or meditation and yoga – all to be had without anywhere near the expenditure.

Got it, jere. Coca Cola is MURDER. SO addicting. Believe me, I know. I was such a caffeine addict. Had to kick coffee, coke, Mountain Dew…OMG. It didn’t put weight on me because it killed my appetite for real food but OMG I was a nervous wreck, rarely slept a full night…drank a lot of coffee and coke. WELL DONE on kicking it, jere. Kicking caffeine is NO SMALL THING! I’m still an “addict”. It would be VERY easy for me to start “using” again, LOL.
Taking lots of vitamins, particularly B complex, helps. Don’t let yourself get hungry! Don’t worry about your weight for now.
Keep your system beefed up with the good stuff. Over time the cravings will subside at least to the point of being able to be managed. And GREAT on getting the necessary dental work done too! That’s a big confront! And I understand that there’s a lot of work now because you ignored the situation back in the day. Well, so what? You’re still alive and kicking and you’re doing it NOW. That’s well done, if you don’t mind my saying so. VERY well done!

I’d talk to my old Scientology friends if they would talk to me. They won’t. I imagine baiting flat earthers is a hoot.

Yeah, this stood out to me, too. I think this is the first I’ve heard a Scientologist acknowledge the death of El Ron.

You’re right Todd. The “truth” of scientology has been getting more and more known in the last 70 years, especially in the last 20-30, MOST especially since they pissed off the wrong New Yorkers, Leah and Tony Ortega in particular.
scientology’s most successful “process” is making ‘bitter apostates’.

In other words,NO liquid sugar for me any more: my weight’s too high and I’ve lost the urge for it, anyway.

“Coke’! Ugggh. I’m in the middle of major dental work due to no medical/dental care while in scn and smoking way too much — to ward off cancer, don’cha know?

I fell down the rabbit hole of the feewinds’ Measles scare to anti-vaxxers, to creationists and flat Earthers. When I moved from scientology to the others,the people involved were very similar; unable to have a discussion as their side of the “conversation” got thought-stopped immediately at their Authority’s pronouncement. Still, it’s fun to bullbait the flat Esarthers. They’re SOO gullible.