I think he had her killed 13 yrs ago. His big $ in pocket of CA law enforcement keeps any investigations from touching him.

Refreshments provided by the church, consisting of warm hose water and stale, moldy bread!

Yes Indie, the same, less than a handful of SMALL groups that have been clinging on for many years and have never gotten large. In scamology’s home country of 300 million people.

@Wynski – There are some people doing well in the indie field such as Trey Lotz (always has a full schedule) and the group up in Idaho (Anita and Les Warren and Mary and Frankie Freeman).
There’s another group north of LA run by Taiwanese Scientologists that seems to be doing alright and a few other indie auditors.
But other than that, it’s definitely not booming out in the wilds. To each his own.
I too am glad I didn’t have the money to spend over and over. I always said, as I walked by the reges, “I’m not a cycle”. lol I had them pretty well trained to leave me alone.

@Joe Pendleton – The only thing Miscavige is interested in (and successful at) “clearing” is everyone’s bank account.

And the real estate? It’s all been given to him, free of charge. Brilliant, like Dillinger. And what did Ron say about Dillinger? SP baby, SP. He’s the real one, calling the kettle black.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!” Indeed, Aquamarine.

Delusory valued logic, it seems.

I like that concept… Karmic Debt. Oh David, what have you done to yourself?

Joe P, Wynski, Skyler,

Thanks for your responses. Your feedback really helps. You see, what I keep trying to process – not very successfully – is not DM’s criminality and fraud, set in motion as it were by LRH, back in the day – THAT stuff I get. What I DON’T get is how, or why, the Still Ins don’t SEE it.

Then again, something just occurred to me.

Perhaps a number of them DO see it – HAVE seen it. Perhaps a number of them DO know, do realize how they’ve been scammed, and are laying their plans to leave.

And while they’re making their plans to get out, they don’t necessarily COMMUNICATE to all and sundry about it. Which means WE, on the OUTside, are not getting this message – THEIR message, the message that could be the ACTUAL mindset of a portion of the Still Ins who, appearances to the contrary, HAVE wised up, and are UTR, or even actively in, but planning to leave.

It took ME 2 years to leave, It took me 2 years to process, to find my way out, after 25 years in. 2 years, and I didn’t even have a child, a parent, a sibling, a spouse or a boyfriend in the cult. (Thank you, God) 2 years, despite the cult having NO leverage on mer as re disconnection. NO leverage on my business either! Yet, I took my time. I eased on down the road, friendly-like. Never fought with anyone.

Now, if I did it that way, maybe there are a bunch of Still Ins doing the same thing! in the same way! Not making waves, pretending to go along, but in fact, TOTALLY wised up, and withdrawing, in a safe, quiet way.

I’d like to believe this is true. Its not that far-fetched of an assumption, actually.

Just thinking out loud here, thank you, guys. I read a lot of detective fiction. 🙂

DM doesn’t DO auditing, much less sec checks, doncha know?