Just had an epiphany! As mentioned before my partner and I had been having terrible arguments due to the fact that women from SOC kept sending him messages that I felt were, if not flirtatious, then familiar but which he seemed not to notice. I have just discovered the words, “love bomb” which resonated with me, shook me, opened my eyes. He kept calling it hard sell but having been part of SOC for 20 years I’m unsure why hard sell would be necessary. The way he described the messages was definitely love bombing. Not necessarily romantic, but find something they have in common, play on that, then talk about coming to course room, donating etc.
Then we broke up and he mentioned the 3rd party Law. He said that we weren’t solving our problems because there was a third party involved, speaking sh=t to me and making it impossible. He even insinuated that it could be another “partner’ with a motive. When I suggested that this 3rd party could possibly be coming from his side, ie the COS, he said oh not, it had to be one person. In my opinion a lot of people make up a unit. I believe, if there is any truth in this 3rd party cr_p, it is definitely the church. And their agenda? To get him away from me.

Hubbard had experience from 1950 on dealing with the failure of his promises and followers starting to doubt, and figuring out how best to keep people ensnared regardless. As a likely psychopath, he was adept at manipulation of people, and indeed seems to have been particularly devious in creating one of the most extreme cults or high control groups ever.

He used or exploited thought stopping, pluralistic ignorance (not letting people discuss their “cases,” so everyone assumes that everyone else is getting what they’re supposed to, when no one is), groupthink, and so on.

Here’s a great site with a clearly laid out list of basic cognitive biases – just about everyone one fits with some aspect of Scientology:

https://yourbias.is/

Is Louis Swartz’ poetry any good?

And is he out of the SO now?

Great, Joe. Its heartening to know that you know some parents and offspring who thought for themselves and stuck together. Fucking evil cult.

You did what you thought was right for them, Newcomer. With the best, the most altruistic of intentions. Then you found out differently. You’re a person, a human being. You made a mistake, a serious mistake in putting your kids into this cult but you did for honest and good and pure reasons. One day your kids will themselves find out or realize and accept the truth that you had to accept and deal with and they will understand what you did and why you did it, and when they truly understand that, all they’ll want is to have the opportunity to kiss your feet for the pain they caused you. And if its too late for them to actually talk to you and unburden themselves they will carry this guilt for the rest of their lives. So the message is, stick around. On the day that they realize that you’re a person with your own rights and freedom of choice, they’ll then be grown up for real, not just chronologically, but true self-respecting and responsible adults who will want to talk to you, and listen to you, and if they REALLY get this message, this realization, they will weep with gratitude for being given this chance, this reprieve, whilst you’re still alive.

I’m so very sorry. It’s heartbreaking when someone we think could be our husband or wife turns out to be all wrong. And in this case, under the horrid influence of a dangerous cult.

*hugs*

Being involved in a long term relationship that shows the potential for future heartache might also deprive you of meeting someone more compatible.

itmaynotbeworthit

I have two kids, an ex wife, an ex brother and sister-in-law and two nephews who I spent 32 years of my life with. I love my kids and I wish them well but there is no going back and doing it over with my ex.

Freaked out by $cientology? That’s certainly understandable.

No need to apologize for changing your username. Be well.

And my old friend , Julian’s father , Louis Swartz is selling his super sweet poetry on amazon, thinks he represents love and sprituality .. a man in complete denial of how has spent the last fifty years.

By the way, I know personally some parents and offspring who did NOT follow CoS dictates and refused to disconnect from loved ones, choosing to disconnect from Scientology instead.

That’s my biggest fear. That they marry him off to a more suitable person. They not beyond arranging that kind of thing. I would be devastated! But clearly he cant marry me cause i’m the problem.