Psychiatrist & Psychologist often times need their OWN psychiatrist or psychologist counselor since they have to listen day in and day out to the problems of others.

They sit day in and day out getting an earful of life’s drama from others, & then have to figure out a plan and in most cases what type “meds” might help that person cope.

I’ve seen & heard this for decades as in “Dr B is on temporary leave” then you learn through the grapevine that the particular Dr was “dealing with his own issues”…..

My eldest brother has been a schizophrenic since youth…..he’s constantly on the bandwagon of self denial & backwards logic. He takes his meds, gets “straight” & since in his OWN MIND considers himself “not sick anymore” since the daily PRESCRIBED MEDS help control his Psycho aspects….he thinks he’s “cured” as in “ONLY sick people need to take medications & I am NOT SICK ANYMORE”….so refused to take them….then it’s right back to the downslide of a major psychotic breakdown & hospitalization over & over again.

He’s held down one full time job that lasted three months & he could not handle even that……he’d “goof off” & had to be tracked down as to why he wasn’t doing his work. After that while under professional medical supervision……more or less worked part time with others like himself….in a “sheltered workshop” but then can’t handle even that. The “Government” has supported him financially & medically his adult life.

He’s had to be taken care of or “baby sat” his entire adult life because HE is his own WORST ENEMY.

Yes help is out there…it IS NEEDED FOR MANY….but if a religion DENIES THAT IT IS AUTHENTIC FOR SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT……& that person then does not seek the help they need….THAT’S A CRIME IN ITSELF.

With you 100%

I have no problem saying that some of what CCHR publishes is correct, yes. And referenced, should one wish to find and evaluate the original paper without any of their extremist spin.

There are far more credible, balanced and up to date resources available, thankfully.

The chemical imbalance theory forms the basis of the “biological model” of mental illness. Those who reject this model claim that mental health is arguably a multifactorial issue that shouldn’t be reduced to mere brain chemistry alone.

That doesn’t mean neurochemicals aren’t a factor or that drugs have no therapeutic value.

But there are legitimate criticisms of this model…and of the pharmaceutical industry and its influence on institutional psychiatry in spearheading it. Tom Insel, former director of the NIMH, has spoken out on this issue. As has Allen Frances, who was responsible for the DSM IV. This isn’t some fringe conspiracy; it’s a philosophical civil war that has been raging within psychiatry for decades.

So in the absence of evidence, one should maintain reason and a healthy scepticism.

My $0.02.

Thanks for your comprehensive response. I appreciate it. I certainly agree that these people were not cured.

Hi Mike,

I really don’t care about what CCHR is saying, not saying or saying between the lines.

However, I do know that history can be vague or not precise at all. I also know that it is in some people’s interest to bend and twist history to their own advantage and goals.

WWII is a fact. To know, with precision, what lead up to, and caused it all is probably at best difficult, if not impossible. That psychiatry was the cause of it all? Nah… Don’t think so. It sounds improbable. Hitler did an “excellent” job of killing millions, and bleeding the surrounding countries dry for wealth and life. But I have never actually sat down and started to do any reading about it, and probably never will, as it doesn’t interest me much.

I have personally worked in a psychiatric housing facility for a period of time. It was an “open” facility, but despite it being open the people there could not just come and go as they pleased. It was for non-violent people only. It got too much over time, and to keep my own mental sanity reasonably intact, I simply had to get out of that place. So I quit.

But, during that time, and this was about 6 months, no one left that facility in a cured state. In fact, no one was expected to actually leave the place. Once these people where assigned to the facility, that was just about it. To put this in crude terms, this was a storage place for the mentally ill, where they where out of sight and off the hands of their families.

During those 6 months, no one left that facility in a cured state. And when I say cured, I mean compared to a “normal” functional person, able to hold down a job and take care of one self, and compared to their state when they where first assigned to the facility.

And yes, I had my hands on the drugs too. I distributed them, and made sure the right amount got into the right hands. It was easy to see the results of the drugs. People “zoned out”, became distant and no longer was very much in contact with their surroundings. It seemed to “disconnect” the person into a state of “numbness” or a likeness to that.

So, this is according to my own experience and conclusions.

Dopamine? Established scientific fact as far is I’m concerned. Not to what it exactly does, but that it actually exists and have a function in the brain. I know of no experiments that shows conclusively the exact functions of it. If it where exactly known, it would be easy to administer 100mg of it, combine it with two other components, and watch a person brighten right up and get back to “normal”, and I have never seen that happen.

Heinrich Himmler 卐 called for the extermination of homosexuals by “root and branch”. I’m sure the Psychs did some, but most were quietly shot and disappeared by order of the Reichsführer ᛋᛋ.

So, you think CCHR is right?

Have you ever met anyone suffering from a real mental illness? Have you asked them about whatever drugs they may be taking? Of course that is anecdotal evidence, but it is an interesting exercise.

WHat is your view of the role of dopamine?

The above comment is the only one that makes any sense on this whole website.

Mike, you write “there is a TON of proof about chemicals in the brain”. No sh*t! There are chemicals in the brain! What a revelation. Let’s make sure to tell some scientists. They might have missed that fact. There is H20, H4E2 and CRAP2MUCH.

No drug exists today which is capable of curing, permanently, mostly any mental disorder. If anyone has made a drug yet with those capabilities, I am not aware of it.

Cavalier, In Hubbard’s twisted, paranoid “reasoning”, the psychs were responsible SOMEhow for every bad act on the planet. They even were the reason scientology never worked as advertised, never mind that Ron was really after more slaves and even MORE MONEY than he could fritter away (again).

Krono –
I’d totally support you in that. Even if it’s not great, but geez that woman can project anything at anyone… BUT herself or her “church.”