PeaceMaker – Acknowledged (scientology-speak)

Making people take a personality test on a job interview is weird in my opinion. I’m retired but I’d like to think I’d refuse to do so on a job interview.

Just for idle curiosity maybe Hubbard was a Type Eight.

The Challenger – The powerful, dominating type, self-confident, decisive. willful, and confrontational

Too bad he descended into the “unhealthy levels of development”.

[Unhealthy Levels

Level 7: Defying any attempt to control them, become completely ruthless, dictatorial, “might makes right.” The criminal and outlaw, renegade, and con-artist. Hard-hearted, immoral and potentially violent.

Level 8: Develop delusional ideas about their power, invincibility, and ability to prevail: megalomania, feeling omnipotent, invulnerable. Recklessly over-extending self.

Level 9: If they get in danger, they may brutally destroy everything that has not conformed to their will rather than surrender to anyone else. Vengeful, barbaric, murderous. Sociopathic tendencies. Generally corresponds to the Antisocial Personality Disorder.]
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Enneagram has some interesting observations but I wouldn’t pursue it as a philosophy of life and living. To me it has some cult like aspects and one cult in a lifetime is enough for me.

willful. and confrontational

Wynski – laughter! What a train of thought – thanks, Aqua!

That’s it! End of cycle!

Yes, you now have the culinary requirements straight. 😉

Aquamarine and Kat LaRue, Thank you for your kind words.

I thought that was him! I remember you shared a photo in your blog post here back in 2014. (Fabulous post btw! Really well-written!) I too hope you are reunited soon! I can’t imagine the heartbreak you are going through.

Richard, I just caught your P.S. – thanks for answering my question!

Fair enough – I know it was possible, particularly at a smaller operation like a mission, not to have seen things go wrong, especially since Scientology tried its best to hide and cover-up when it did. And as I’ve noted elsewhere, I think that’s part of why under Miscavige local orgs are delivering only mission-like minimal amounts of auditing, because it limits the risks and makes them easier to control.

Richard, there’s still my question as to whether you knew of any cases of people going PTS, or having any major psychological problems after auditing. I think auditors like you were well-intentioned, but Hubbard cynically used techniques that he thought might have the power to make the able more able, but knew would do so at the certain risk of making some minds snap.

I did a fair bit of work with the enneagram at one point. I think it’s oversold as a tool, particularly as a way to try to evaluate potential hires and employees, and can indeed end up being used to pigeon-hole others – but I found it can also can do a good job of reminding, and even training us, that others view the world differently and are motivated by different things; and it helped me a lot in raising and establishing a great rapport with one of my kids who is very like me in some ways and almost the opposite in others.

And isn’t Dianetics and Scientology full of covert “vias” – like the Tone Chart, as recently discussed? That seems to have been a repeated trick of misdirection of Hubbard’s, decry obvious examples of something devious to appear above it, and to attempt to convince people that they’re not being manipulated, and then sneak in its use surreptitiously.

PeaceMaker

P.S. I only participated in Scn for a few years and left in 1982. I wasn’t aware of any mental damage caused by Scn until I started reading the blogs after watching “Going Clear” and found out there was a lot of mental damage as well as severe emotional damage.

Knowledge is where you find it I guess. Scn has way too much false knowledge for it to have any lasting value. I didn’t have a problem with trying to be interesting in session since I don’t consider myself to be particularly interesting and I would have been a failure at it anyhow. haha

Maybe I have a “Type Five” basic personality. Here’s something I browsed over a bit just to get an overview. It’s interesting but it might have the pitfall of evaluating and judging oneself and others through the filter of “basic personality types” which could become a “via”, another concept mentioned in Scn.

enne (nine) agram (diagram) – A nine pointed diagram

https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions