Yes some people have somewhat observed natural phenomena (although the observations tend to be skewed). But they never did anything about it though, wherein lies the rub. Hubbard stated somewhere or other that “Scientology is only reminding you of what you have forgotten”. I think now that it is in “Fundamentals of Thought” book but as I am not so frantic for “references” as Peace-Pipe-Smoker is, we’ll leave it at that.

Your soapbox is strapped to your back all day it seems. Still all this will look good on your job resume when you aspire to the lofty heights attainable in the world of psychology. You’ll go far…

Ah! Kronomex the Mexican Time Bandit! But now we have comments being reproduced on the page so at least you have a chance to edit the invective you post. Good eh?

Aqua,

That would be wonderful…well, I think I might get upset if we were to find the sea org members in cages, but still…

🙂 @ Richard, Peacemaker and Kat,

In fairness – I like to be fair – factoring in what I know today and didn’t know then – in fairness, this woman I’ve skewered here because her rudeness and pushiness and utter cluelessness about how to treat a volunteer got under my skin that day, this veteran SO female was, in all likelihood, exhausted, stressed, and in great fear of not making the set (and completely unrealistic) target – a target which had likely NOT been set by her, but instead, FOR her, by her Seniors.

Talk about getting a flash from a film: Writing this I just got one from “Gorky Park”. At the end the hero lets all the sables on the fur farm out of their cages. One by one, each door is opened, one by one they each scamper off into the tall, Russian wood…so beautiful!

That’s what I feel like doing for every Sea Org member right now. Just go in and free them, somehow. Run!…Fly!…Go now! You’re free! Life is so beautiful, go live it!

Fool,

Your comment that I have no business here is interesting- this isn’t the first time you have said something to that effect. Is this blog/subject only open to scientologists and ex-scientologists? Us ‘wogs’ aren’t allowed I guess…figures you would take that stance. I have no interest in changing your mind- you wouldn’t change it if your life were at stake. My interest here is stopping the abuse and disconnection that this group practices. It is to help people to escape a horrible cult that has dangerous practices and is headed downhill fast. The exchange of ideas, debate and rants that we all engage in here is educational. Im sorry you don’t enjoy it. I do.

I have tried to engage you in an intelligent debate regarding your view points and
my own, but you consistently ignore the proffer. I have to ask again- why is that??

Kat

yes. as you paint the picture…. the movie plays out in my mind, peopled with my past staff comrades and staged in my old orgs….

When I think back to the youthful years on staff … already and just naturally it’s hued with the photographer’s Golden Hour light… the camaraderie and esprit de corps… the energy and verve… it was such a purpose driven time…

What you describe fits right into that…….

…
Yet…

the dark underbelly of truth beneath my halcyon recollections…. rolls out….

we don’t validate down stats
you must reach with money
to give free of cost is to turn the person into a criminal
judge judge judge…. degraded beings, big beings, criminal exchange, “psych mentality”
…

and … if OT and Clear had actually been happening…it would have worked!

Lately…. there is a simplicity that has been creeping in and soothing my struggles.

Clear was the solution to mankind and would have been a worthwhile life’s dedication.

If it was true, it would have been honorable. We would have won, hell, they would have had it in hand even before I was first swept up and away.

But with Clear being the big lie in the big trap… it’s polar opposite to honorable.

..
Thanks for your rainbow dream…. 🙂 We were good. And we were wrong!

Richard and Aqua-

I thought I was the only one. Although I was picturing ‘Sigmund the sea monster’ from 70s TV!

Kat

Haha! Poor Kat trying to catch me out with a seeming contradiction as I have so often caught her out. The common denominator (somewhat anyway) between the Indies and the Church is still the technology of LRH, which actually is Scientology, not the Church nor Hubbard, and which I have laboriously mentioned time and time again. But as a Johnny-come-lately only interested in lumping everything together you wouldn’t know that, or even if you did or do know it, you’d still do so in your desire to damage. Now you can feel a tad more educated on your new “pet” subject. You might one day come to know what you are talking about but I doubt it. I’m not going to explain any further as really you’ve got no business here – unless you are looking to expand your psychology business or media career.

And as for “hate”, no no, I leave that to Wynski and now you it seems.

Muslims are also taught to lie and deceive to protect themselves and Islam (eg. taqiyya, tawriya, kitman, darura, muruna, etc). Abhorrent, yes. Yet arguably few would consider Islam an “illegitimate” religion. Why is that?