Thanks for your friendly words. Please forgive me if I decline to answer your questions on the blog. You may email me. I have studied vedanta under a qualified teacher for several years now and some of my answers are difficult to follow for people who aren’t interested. In the context of scientology I wish to speak as a formerly brainwashed person who found liberation from the tyranny of the dwindling spiral doctrine. I aim to show people how a little logic can be used to deconstruct Hubbard’s “tech” to a pile of horse shit. It’s a modest undertaking but it keeps me away from the racetrack, prostitutes and reruns of MASH.

This message is for Jules

Hi Jules

I enjoyed reading your reply – glad to receive your opinion.

I replied mainly to defend my gay acquaintances and friends, all of whom, whilst in a minority, are all very special and caring individuals.

Are you Homophobic ?

If so, lets try not to pander to the C of $ mentality, eh ? In Miscavology, EVERYONE is a loser who needs to be scammed and the scamming is easier against people who can be labelled in any way, especially early on in the scamming process. Now that’s Upside-Down !

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Hi John

That’s quite a statement you made there !

When were you in ? Am very interested to learn what experiences would lead to such an emphatic reply.

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Thanks for your Theta reply – I can see the caring intention in there.

When were you in and what did you get to study ? I can also see that your words-of-wisdom may have sprung from Training on the original, unmolested Bridge.

Also, tell me more about your take on Statics. That was intriguing ! Are you referring to a daily interaction with MEST or to the “life-force” alone ?

Jules, I like your comment but to set the record straight I think it’s in response to Third Side of the Coin, not me.

uh oh. wow wow wow. i find this so disturbing. I dont think youa re joking at all.
you are a person who has all the information available and still believes Hubbard was right. Xenu?!? no psychiatry?!? dont take epilepsy/diabetes meds?!? emeters?! reactive mind, oh man, its the subconscious–Hubbard used basic psychoanalysis techniques… a BILLION YEAR contract?! wowow.
Man, if I were a different person, I could start a religion and make so much money off suckers. Everybody wants a fairy godmother. but those are fairytales. Fairy tales!
L. Ron Hubbard was not a good guy, not a sane guy, and I have my own suspicions that he was a closeted homosexual. that’s why he put gay ppl at 1.1. People condemn the most what they fear the most. Elron has an effeminate affect in all of the vids I’ve watched.
anyone that has all the information on the scam cult of Scientology available and still believes it has agreed to shut down independent thought and live a life of fear and subservience. In my opinion.

“My suggestion is to return to the good old days where everyone had Fun with the Tech. and got along just great, on an continuously improving basis.”

The amount of non-confront OR, out right wrong data in that statement is almost unbelievable. That was a joke right?

You want to return to the “good old days” when everyone had fun with the tech. That is a desire I understand and sympathize with. Only thing is that even in those “fun” days when course rooms were filled and people were hard at work with auditor training and morale was high, there was still disconnection, maxed out credit cards and lots of Paulette Coopers. Not everybody was having fun with the tech.

I think you’re suggesting a “correctly understood” KSW and an end to mis-application of the tech could surgically remove the malignancy and leave us with what we once had and maybe something even better that doesn’t lead to disconnection, maxed-out credit and fair game. It looks like correct understanding is the key to your proposition to resurrect scientology. But can the “tech” survive correct understanding? Reactive mind/engram theory sounds pretty good on the surface but if you look closely it begins to beg more questions than it answers. But so what? If it works…but it doesn’t work does it? According to that theory I should be quite a robust example of realized human potential after I’ve gotten rid of my engrams. That didn’t quite happen for anybody as evidenced by the many “clears” who are no more healthy, successful, or nicer than the average wog.

Affinity, reality and communication are NOT the components of understanding. Understanding is knowledge plus confidence in that knowledge. ARC could be called the components of human amicability or you could make up your own three or four or five components of human amicability. Then you could devise a methodology of metered counseling based on those components and if you devised that system smartly in accordance with common sense and compassion you could have your own standard tech. Why in the world would any intelligent person think that somebody who said so many incorrect and nonsensical things (the axioms for instance) could be the one to devise the BEST possible metered interview methodology?

I don’t consider this a petty bone I’m picking with you. The belief that MY ETERNITY IS AT STAKE! is the fear that is at the root of all the idiocy and cruel madness. But what IS the root itself? I say it is the belief that Hubbard was a wise visionary who knew and discovered great truths. That belief will can easily be dissolved when it is pointed out how stupid and incorrect was so much of what he said. Axiom One: “Life is basically a static”. FALSE. A static is something that doesn’t move or change. That is the OPPOSITE of life. Why didn’t anybody ever catch that?

The header picture shows ;

– Doctor Evil = Miscavige.

– Everyone else = a “Commodores Messenger”.

Its interesting to learn from Marty Rathbun’s recent, 1-hour TV documentary (now showing on the Investigative Discovery (“ID”) Network cable channel, in a program there called “Dangerous Persuasions”), that the Messengers are mentally programmed (robotized) to emulate their “Senior” (upline manager). Whatever their Senior Is Being, or is Doing, they immediately emulate that behavior and activity. True “Nineteen Eighty-Four” stuff (a book by George Orwell. See youTube.com & wikipedia.com. Sometimes called “1984”). That is, no checks and balances anywhere in sight and not permitted even if they appear. That, in addition to total control and surveillance of everyone, to enforce this culture.

When watching the Austin Power movies this Doctor Evil scene is repeated frequently. Its always staged where the Juniors in the scene (the Messengers) watch carefully to see exactly how Doc Evil is laughing and acting and then quickly ease their way into behaving exactly identically, in personality and actions. Totally Yes-Boy / Yes-Gal behavior, as per “1984”.

We also see this behavior in North Korea. It’s liberating to comprehend this information connection. It’s all to do with the commonality of Evil, which, in turn, is another exhibit of the “Upside-Down’ness” of the Reactive Mind (“The Bank”) that LRH defined, mapped out and codified (at certain times when he was being himself, that is ! ).

So now we know what to detect and avoid – among many dozens of other things that the Technology of Scientology (“The Tech”) itself brings to us, to our advantage, if we so choose to receive it.

This Yes-Men behavior is known as “Command Intention”, within Miscavology. This term is used to justify Yes-Men behavior, even if totally Evil. To me Command Intention, in reality, is better aligned to the message in “Keeping Scientology Working” (“KSW’), a management reference included in Scientology Management Technology. This reference, when understood correctly, implies that Yes-Men behavior would remain out-of-favor, due to self-correction mechanisms also written into the “KSW” policy.

Unless the Tech. is mis-applied of course, as we know is occurring within the very offbeat and Evil Technology interpretation known as Miscavology, which is run daily on its unknowing victims (those who were foolish enough to get/stay involved in the Church of Scientology, as dictated & controlled by Miscavige).

My suggestion is to return to the good old days where everyone had Fun with the Tech. and got along just great, on an continuously improving basis. This would require Miscavige and his Messengers to go on a long RPF while the rest of us put the Tech back in – or alternatively, to simply build a new Church. Option #2 seems to be working best – thanks to all contributing Indies, Free-Zoners, “Outs”, SP’s and Protesters in general 🙂

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Aqua, I understand your viewpoint.
I have had similar temptations, and I have been reluctant to draw a line in the sand (everybody is different, and it takes as long as it takes). Granting beingness and taking a tough love approach uses a lot of energy, and can be rather grating (especially in some cases).
You can’t force help, but you can force yourself to take a break more often. Works for me to keep the charge level down.
As for “this stubbornly clueless group”, they have surpassed my estimates a while back.
On the other hand, this whole situation is an interesting study in ‘group think’.