😂😂😂😂😂!!!!!!

“Could have learned it elsewhere” can be said about most any practice, philosophy, religion or cult. Hubbard/Scn presented itself as, “We know everything about everything. We are right and everybody else is wrong.” = cult

Separating fact from fiction and true from false remains the project after exiting. Metered auditing gives scn a mystique imo. Without it it wouldn’t be too exciting.

I think Mayo totally gave up on scn before he passed away.

I think the consensus on Elron announcing different versions of Clear is that immediately after Clear are the OT levels and he wanted more people going to the advanced orgs or Flag where he got a bigger cut of the money. A year or two after I left he looted the missions in what some people call the Mission Massacre and I suppose he got a windfall.

It’s all history now and the public looks at scn the way it’s currently run by Mr. Magoo.

Going Clear was a lot easier in the 1970’s .

Hey – just joking!

Works for me. Not interested in watching though.

“Battlefield Earth. May its message of being a p.o.s. forever prevail.”

Should he take Tom Cruise along with him?
Might be fun to watch.

Thanks, Aqua! It always gives me pleasure to come to your rescue whenever Tiny Boots tries to bring you down!

Richard, if you left the CofS you certainly got “clear” about something! At a minimum you learned to recognize fraud, manipulation and abuse (at least regarding money).

Some people may have gotten something out of the period of their life when they were in Scientology, but the first question to ask is, was it just part of the process of becoming more mature and wiser (hopefully) that people undergo anyway? The next is, was it something that could have been had (and that other people get) through something like a communication seminar, or a meditation class or prayer retreat? (the sort of sources gurus and groups often plagiarize things that “work” from)

Believers are of course going to attribute things, to whatever it is they believe in at the time. I wonder what Mayo would have had to say later?

I paid no attention to what was happening in scn after I left until I watched the HBO “Going Clear” movie in 2015 and started reading the scn blogs. For awhile I wondered if I was a “real” Clear or just some bastardized version until someone posted this 1989 article by David Mayo while he was still a believer in The Tech. He suggests there might be “harmonics of clear” and at the end of the article says someone might be clear-er than they were before so I’ll go with that.

(Thursday Funnies – haha)

http://www.ivymag.org/iv-01-02.html

You forgot to tell him, cob, to go to the nearest brick pile and pound sand up his butt.