Hi Peacemaker,

Yes, important points. There’s no zero sum in these situations. Things were done to him at an early age, and he was certainly groomed from an early age by Hubbard in his latter stages of paranoia.

OMG Yawn, I couldn’t agree more. He definitely belongs in jail for the rest of his natural life. In solitary confinement. David Miscavige is a cruel psychopath and a danger to society. Whatever I communicated that made it look like I was in any way condoning his behavior or making excuses for it; for justifying the pain he has inflicted, giving reasons why for the destruction of the lives of honest, hardworking, loyal good people – whatever I said in my posts about him that created such an impression was obviously a miscommunication on my part, and wholly unintentional I assure you!

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but there is very much a valid reason why we have jails. Miscavige belongs in one for the rest of his natural life imo. I would consider what he feels emotionally about things like love etc, well… he can ponder that & how he denied & messed up those feelings in so many others from inside a cell.

Edit: “…that the vast majority of us have, and operate from, or try to, or believe that WE should, even if WE don’t always do so.”

@Alco

You said, “You are a loving, caring individual who only wants what’s best for everybody”. Thank you, that’s true, essentially, but I think most people are, essentially. I think that underlying most of us is an emotional base that is loving and caring, surface appearances to the contrary.

I do believe that most people are basically good, and can act badly (including me by the way. I have been, in the past, horrible, to some people. Selfish, willful, stubborn, thoughtless, yes, and cruel, to some, and it took years for me to see and understand and acknowledge that I am basically good, despite having acted badly.)

On the other hand I do believe that some people, very few, relatively speaking, are just “bad seeds”. They are missing something essentially, that the vast majority rest of us have, and operate from, or try to, or believe that they should, even if they don’t always.

But the Bad Seeds, the psychopaths, no matter how clever, eventually do themselves in. Of course, in the meantime, they damage and destroy others, and so, yes, the sooner such people are rendered inoperative – whether thru incarceration or their own demise.

Look how Al Capone, who had so many people murdered, was brought down by such a relatively minor offense – income tax evasion! All the skill and dedication of Elliot Ness, the police, the FBI, couldn’t nail him for his murderous crimes, but wow, the IRS got him.

Something, some instinct tells me its going to be a little thing, a little nothing thing, that’s going to get Miscavage nailed. He will slip up. They all do!

“He is in a perpetual state of never doubting himself. He is not capable of love.”

Yes, analytically I get it. He’s a sociopath, a 2 1/2 percenter, choose the nomenclature one prefers. I’m doing my best to look from that viewpoint, and succeeding, somewhat.

So OK he’s not capable of love – of other humans.

But then there are animals. He has animal pets, or I read that he did. Didn’t he have beagles? Did he love THEM?

Can he love domestic animals, or wild animals? Or birds, or fish? Would he, could he, torture an animal, say, or watch it be tortured, and feel nothing?
What about plant life?

Are these stupid questions? If so, I can’t help it, and if you don’t know and/or can’t answer them because they are too exasperating, I understand.

wfto, Hubbard was paranoid about imagined enemies, and DM reportedly uses bullet-proof lecterns, so maybe he is afraid of possible internal opponents and usurpers – people who might do what he did, in the classic pattern of projection – even if it doesn’t seem like he should be. I think much of how he runs the CofS doesn’t make sense to normal, rational people.

“One of the classic quandaries of totalitarian leaders, is that they practically have to sleep with one eye open.”

Although you have to wonder at this point if there is anyone in the CoS who has the ambition, much less the capability to take over. Seems that everyone left is either a traumatized and beaten-down long-termer who would never think of trying, or a person (let me find a kind word)…..naïve enough to join and stay in Scientology in the 2020’s despite the existence of the internet. Again, no real threat to DM.

Anyone deposing him would inherit a hollowed-out, depopulated organization based on DM’s rewrites of LRH’s material and staff without any experience of Scientology at its height. They’d basically have to rebuild from the ground up, (but without the passwords to the secret accounts where I assume most of the money resides.) And would he whales keep giving without DM’s prodding? I’m not sure any new leader wouldn’t take over only to be left holding the bag as it all collapses.

So I don’t think he fears anyone inside CoS, although he probably worries about the ever-shrinking finances and the possibility that local govts may start taking action on all the neglected properties.

Aqua, here’s the difference between you and David Miscavige. You are a loving, caring individual who only wants what’s best for everybody. Miscavige, on the other hand, is a self promoting narcissist who only cares about himself and his goals and has no problem with stepping on other people to achieve them. Hitler fit this mold and look what happened to Europe as a result. Of course you don’t want to be like Miscavige and I and all the others on this blog wouldn’t want that either.
We love you just the way you are.

Aqua, DM’s parents got him in a cult, and turned him over to its paramilitary slave labor order, where he was groomed by the narcissistic, authoritarian and ruthless supreme leader – not exactly a good start in life, especially since he was exposed to abusive behavior at home before that. Accounts that he physically attacked a “PC” he was auditing at about the age of 12, suggest that by then he already had a propensity for actually committing the sort of violence that Hubbard threatened in old missives.

And Hubbard left his successors hamstrung, technically forbidden from doing what I would say had been his key to keeping Scientology going, continually introducing supposedly new and better “tech” to paper over the failures of what had come before — presumably based on his own unrealistic belief that he would return to take the reins again. Plus of course they inherited all sorts of other messes, like Hubbard’s greed having lost the organization its tax exemption, and accumulating a huge tax liability.

One of the classic quandaries of totalitarian leaders, is that they practically have to sleep with one eye open.

Not a fate most people would choose up front — though perhaps it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.