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		By: Tory		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2023 00:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Presumably these events, like pot lucks and things with celebrity guest cos the parishioners money? 
In the UK, we always let people know its going to cost £5 to enter the world conker championships or cheese rolling festival, its only polite. 

How much do these events cost for people to attend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably these events, like pot lucks and things with celebrity guest cos the parishioners money?<br />
In the UK, we always let people know its going to cost £5 to enter the world conker championships or cheese rolling festival, its only polite. </p>
<p>How much do these events cost for people to attend.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 21:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522560&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yawn, I just re-read your post and I see now that my question was answered in the first 2 lines.  The OT levels are on one side, the discussion of and the installation of an implant and on the other side deals with application, i.e, making  manifest the fantasy that is the implant, or as you more aptly phrased it, &quot;...trying to put that fantasy into motion and attempting to attain the substance of the lies you were told&quot;.  

Wow. An implant!   I get it now, thanks.  This has been puzzling me for a long time. Thanks  very much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522560">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yawn, I just re-read your post and I see now that my question was answered in the first 2 lines.  The OT levels are on one side, the discussion of and the installation of an implant and on the other side deals with application, i.e, making  manifest the fantasy that is the implant, or as you more aptly phrased it, &#8220;&#8230;trying to put that fantasy into motion and attempting to attain the substance of the lies you were told&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Wow. An implant!   I get it now, thanks.  This has been puzzling me for a long time. Thanks  very much.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522548&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

Yawn, thanks for explaining this in such clear detail.  Understood on all except for one point you made, which that as an ARC SW release I would have &quot;more common sense and sanity  than any Clear or OT in the Church...&quot;  

This I don&#039;t understand, because everyone on the OT levels has DONE the lower bridge and have gone Clear! 

 They HAVE that lower bridge auditing under their belts or else they wouldn&#039;t be ALLOWED to go onto their OT levels.  

Ergo, the obvious question is, what happens to all that &quot;common sense and sanity&quot; etc. once they go OT?  

Obviously SOMETHING happens to it all, right? 

 I guess I&#039;m just intensely curious about what (apparently) BLOTS OUT all those gains.  

Particularly as regards communication.  In my personal experience, OTs in good standing are  (with a few exceptions) the LEAST able to communicate about ANYTHING that even SLIGHTLY smacks of criticism of COS.  Whereas with all the lower bridge auditing under their belts they SHOULD I would think, be able to handle anything like this with ease.  But no, just the opposite.

 In my experience they (again most but not all, there have been exceptions) OTs will either fluff you off with a &quot;non-answer&quot; OR  shut you right down with a warning t about &quot;furthering enemy line&quot;.   THIS above ALL else remains beyond my comprehension.  I didn&#039;t even REACH Grade I (Communications Release) but even I know that the EP is to be able to communicate with anyone about any subject (paraphrased).  I&#039;m trying to understand: so they get this gain on the lower bridge and then, what?  On the OT levels it gets...what&#039;s the word...negated, made wrong?  Reversed, blotted out, somehow?  Because if it truly was an Ability Gained (and a marvelous one it would be indeed) how could anything (barring some drug or some physical body problem) blot it out? Any further clarification of this with regard to the OT levels and gains from auditing on the lower bridge would be vastly appreciated as I&#039;ve been pondering this for a long time and coming up each time clueless :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522548">Yawn</a>.</p>
<p>Yawn, thanks for explaining this in such clear detail.  Understood on all except for one point you made, which that as an ARC SW release I would have &#8220;more common sense and sanity  than any Clear or OT in the Church&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>This I don&#8217;t understand, because everyone on the OT levels has DONE the lower bridge and have gone Clear! </p>
<p> They HAVE that lower bridge auditing under their belts or else they wouldn&#8217;t be ALLOWED to go onto their OT levels.  </p>
<p>Ergo, the obvious question is, what happens to all that &#8220;common sense and sanity&#8221; etc. once they go OT?  </p>
<p>Obviously SOMETHING happens to it all, right? </p>
<p> I guess I&#8217;m just intensely curious about what (apparently) BLOTS OUT all those gains.  </p>
<p>Particularly as regards communication.  In my personal experience, OTs in good standing are  (with a few exceptions) the LEAST able to communicate about ANYTHING that even SLIGHTLY smacks of criticism of COS.  Whereas with all the lower bridge auditing under their belts they SHOULD I would think, be able to handle anything like this with ease.  But no, just the opposite.</p>
<p> In my experience they (again most but not all, there have been exceptions) OTs will either fluff you off with a &#8220;non-answer&#8221; OR  shut you right down with a warning t about &#8220;furthering enemy line&#8221;.   THIS above ALL else remains beyond my comprehension.  I didn&#8217;t even REACH Grade I (Communications Release) but even I know that the EP is to be able to communicate with anyone about any subject (paraphrased).  I&#8217;m trying to understand: so they get this gain on the lower bridge and then, what?  On the OT levels it gets&#8230;what&#8217;s the word&#8230;negated, made wrong?  Reversed, blotted out, somehow?  Because if it truly was an Ability Gained (and a marvelous one it would be indeed) how could anything (barring some drug or some physical body problem) blot it out? Any further clarification of this with regard to the OT levels and gains from auditing on the lower bridge would be vastly appreciated as I&#8217;ve been pondering this for a long time and coming up each time clueless 🙂</p>
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		By: Doug Sprinkle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for clearing that up Mike.  I will listen to it again and clear my MU&#039;s so did I get it right this time.
Yes there&#039;s nothing bashful about Ron.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing that up Mike.  I will listen to it again and clear my MU&#8217;s so did I get it right this time.<br />
Yes there&#8217;s nothing bashful about Ron.</p>
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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 20:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522548&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

Someone like Chan the Man is very much an example of a smiling assassin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522548">Yawn</a>.</p>
<p>Someone like Chan the Man is very much an example of a smiling assassin.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 19:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522518&quot;&gt;Doug Sprinkle&lt;/a&gt;.

He actually says it is the lack QUAL that caused the earlier civilizations perished after only 2 million years (I think it was -- it&#039;s been a long time). But in his infinite wisdom, he had discovered this omission, so scientology&#039;s civilization will be eternal. 

Nothing bashful about Ron.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522518">Doug Sprinkle</a>.</p>
<p>He actually says it is the lack QUAL that caused the earlier civilizations perished after only 2 million years (I think it was &#8212; it&#8217;s been a long time). But in his infinite wisdom, he had discovered this omission, so scientology&#8217;s civilization will be eternal. </p>
<p>Nothing bashful about Ron.</p>
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		By: Yawn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 19:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522391&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

OT lectures and seminars are the discussion of and the installation of a fantasy. In Scientology parlance they are one side of an implant. The other side comes with trying to put that fantasy into motion and attempting to attain the substance of the lies you were told. Pretty neat trick really, to get a person to trap themselves with their own desires, time and money. The &#039;prison of belief&#039; is a very apt term for it.
ARC Straightwire is not a low position on the Scientology Bridge. You have a lot more common sense and sanity than any Clear or OT in the Church, you should really believe that. If anything, imo, the only benefits of the Scientology fantasy are found below the level of Clear. The carrot and the donkey of the Clear &#038; OT sections presented by the Church of Scientology are very much the amplification of a trap and should be avoided completely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522391">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>OT lectures and seminars are the discussion of and the installation of a fantasy. In Scientology parlance they are one side of an implant. The other side comes with trying to put that fantasy into motion and attempting to attain the substance of the lies you were told. Pretty neat trick really, to get a person to trap themselves with their own desires, time and money. The &#8216;prison of belief&#8217; is a very apt term for it.<br />
ARC Straightwire is not a low position on the Scientology Bridge. You have a lot more common sense and sanity than any Clear or OT in the Church, you should really believe that. If anything, imo, the only benefits of the Scientology fantasy are found below the level of Clear. The carrot and the donkey of the Clear &amp; OT sections presented by the Church of Scientology are very much the amplification of a trap and should be avoided completely.</p>
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		By: Doug Sprinkle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522289&quot;&gt;Yawn&lt;/a&gt;.

I did listen to the entire thing.  It was highly entertaining.   If I understood what he was saying, according to him the lack of the org board is the reason that previous civilizations perished?
I also found it humorous when he said that people should be given refunds immediately if they request them.   I wonder if they ever did actually do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522289">Yawn</a>.</p>
<p>I did listen to the entire thing.  It was highly entertaining.   If I understood what he was saying, according to him the lack of the org board is the reason that previous civilizations perished?<br />
I also found it humorous when he said that people should be given refunds immediately if they request them.   I wonder if they ever did actually do that.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 08:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, is Jan Eastgate going to be in San Francisco to protest against psychiatry? Would a quick counter protest see the victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology shrivel away? In London, Anon arranging a counter protest was enough to make the Co$ stay away. Not my credit, but nice work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is Jan Eastgate going to be in San Francisco to protest against psychiatry? Would a quick counter protest see the victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology shrivel away? In London, Anon arranging a counter protest was enough to make the Co$ stay away. Not my credit, but nice work!</p>
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		By: Linear13		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2023 06:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522260&quot;&gt;Katherine Olson&lt;/a&gt;.

Katherine says “Now I understand that isn’t lucrative for him…”

You nailed it on the head.  He’s an ‘elite’ FSM (see he’s a ‘staff’ member after all haha).  He’s making dough from all those marks at Flag and everywhere else he goes.  Mickiewicz better watch out the Chan man may be vying for the top spot.  Chan is younger than Mickiewicz and I doubt highly that Mickiewicz watches out for his health.  He thinks he will live forever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-332/#comment-522260">Katherine Olson</a>.</p>
<p>Katherine says “Now I understand that isn’t lucrative for him…”</p>
<p>You nailed it on the head.  He’s an ‘elite’ FSM (see he’s a ‘staff’ member after all haha).  He’s making dough from all those marks at Flag and everywhere else he goes.  Mickiewicz better watch out the Chan man may be vying for the top spot.  Chan is younger than Mickiewicz and I doubt highly that Mickiewicz watches out for his health.  He thinks he will live forever.</p>
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