Yes, I think there are a lot of contradictions. Which wouldn’t be so bad if they just said, “well as the research progressed new things were discovered.” But no. Every word is true. I think a great book could be written by an ex techy, detailing all the contradicting “truths”.

Hi Newcomer,I loved your post.Got that tone level perfectly too.Sec checks for all not in compliance followed by MFL Meagan,captures the dark-light-dark side of cos etc.Ann.

As to whether there exists a spirit soul is a matter of belief. Buddhist doctrine denies the existence of such a thing. But Hubbard’s version of that belief, the “thetan”, is defined in Axiom one of his axioms which I have studied recently and deconstructed at length for my own amusement.

He says a thetan is a life “static” and has no location in time or space. By his own definition of a thetan Hubbard is demonstrably in error to himself. A static is something that doesn’t move or change so that’s a FLUNK. A thetan, per Hubbard should operate three feet above and behind the physical body and a thetan is notoriously affected by events such as entheta within proximity to the physical body and ONLY in proximity to the body so as far as it having no location in time or space that’s another FLUNK for Hubbard.

Hubbard gets off to a very poor start with his thirty plus axioms and the malarky just keeps flowing with each one. Hubbard liked to talk and talk and make himself look like a great sage and prophet while he told all kinds of tales that cannot be confirmed through independent inquiry. His inconsistencies reflect a natural inability for a compulsive liar to keep track of all his lies.

Thank you all for this gracious forum and thank you Mike.

For more information on the climate Google these areas which are considered “The Valley” by residents. The cities bleed into one another with just a sign to let you know you’re crossing into another city with the same temperature range.

Palm Springs, Cathedral City, Desert Hot Springs, Rancho Mirage, Palm Desert, Indian Wells, LaQuinta, Indio, Coachella, Thermal. This is also sometimes known as the Coachella Valley.

The high desert, 20 plus miles from Palm Springs in elevation starts at Yucca Valley and goes through 29 Palms and into Death Valley.

Just some useless knowledge.

Palm Springs and the surrounding Area is a “low desert” area. Temperatures in the peak hot season are regularly over 100 degrees, with the average being somewhere in the neighborhood of 105, with peaks up to and exceeding 115.

The population there experiences mostly gorgeous weather 7/8 or so months a year (mid to end of October thru April “ish”). It has a huge population of “snow birds” which are people from colder climates who have residences or bring motor homes during the extreme winter weather at their other home location.

As such, during the extreme hot times (I’ve experienced temperatures at 121 degrees) hydration can be a life or death thing, just as extreme cold can be in other areas. As a youth we would gather funds and distribute high electrolyte drinks to homeless people in the desert. It isn’t uncommon.

I’m not saying that there aren’t people who drink alcohol etc., but hydration in this location is as important (yes, life or death) as homeless in, say New York City, Boston or Michigan would be for warming facilities or blankets etc., during the cold winter months.

Every year people die from heat related death in these higher climate locations, particularly the elderly and young children in addition to the homeless.

Now, regarding that particular described interaction, I have no idea if it actually occurred or not. I’m not willing to lay any $ on the line that it did. But as someone who is extremely familiar with that specific area and environment, it’s very plausible that a homeless person would have a Gatorade.

Hi Espiando,Thank you for all your posts,however you feel at the time.I really try too,yet I know there are mindsets about Ron/David & the Tech- training & processing that just dig in deeper when a different viewpoint is presented.I too hope & dream that not only is someone listening but actually hearing which does not involve turning the ears off while pretending to listen.Always Ann.

Aqua, I like your comparison better. Much more appropriate. Except instead of an axe, maybe a Point of Sale credit card machine? /Silly Snickers

Oh, heavens, no worries. I’m a never-in and was curious. I intended to ask that question even before reading the comments, as when I first saw the picture I zoomed in as well and couldn’t clearly make it out. 🙂 it could have been ashtrays, blocks, or mini dictionaries for all I knew. To be fair, the ashtrays made sense equally. And I agree, clinical completely nails it. I could incision the smell of Lysol!