(Rod Keller commenting on a blog written by Mike Rinder – who would have thought it? I like it! 😉 ).

Seriously, for anyone who would like a quick peppy introduction to the history of NOI, I recommend “FARRAKHAN, The Movie” by Leila Wills.

He described how Louis Farrakhan and some other NOI’s were shown this quote in History of Man: “The whole track seems to be about 70 trillion years long.” (Chapter 7, paragraph 2.) This brought tears to their eyes. According to Tony, this quote aligned with teachings of the NOI.

I consulted Wikipedia on the subject of NOI. The article states that the NOI teaches that the earth is some 76 trillion years old. I googled NOI age of universe and came upon an article stating that NOI founder Elisha Muhammad claimed the universe was 76 or 78 trillion years old.

Tony M is a great speaker. He is charming, charismatic, and funny. He could make an effective Miscavology salesman.

“Rev. Farrakhan announced that anybody who didn’t want to do Dianetics would not be able to continue in the Nation of Islam. Disconnection, in other words.”

May I ask where / who you got this information from?

Two lunatic systems of belief feeding each other = insanity squared.

Scientology can claim that the “Wheel” is the predicted next invader force sent by the Marcabs or whatever nut jobs hold grudges for millions, billions, and even trillions of years. Or maybe the Wheel is filled with good guys waiting to fight off the next invader force — maybe staffed by the Loyal Officers.

Scientology can also offer demon cleaning (getting rid of BTs), and if you really get it together, they can teach NOI to exteriorize and go visit the Wheel whenever they want.

And what can NOI give Scientology? Mutual support of minority, fringe, religions? Maybe a bit. But probably mainly, money and new membership.

Actually, Scientology could probably grow faster by curtailing all its other schemes and just asking its current members to reproduce with abandon and indoctrinate their children. However, I personally do not believe that any child should be indoctrinated into any religion. Let them decide as adults.

So, NOI and Scientology, strange bedfellows? No. Birds of a feather.

And I can’t think of a more deserving recipient, can you? He works tirelessly to pound some sense into his underlings and all he often gets is a stab in the back. Let’s hear it for the boy!

Thanks Marg.

Actually I felt somewhat nauseous when the meme of “going mainstream” was first introduced by our idiotic oberfuhrers.

Friend of mine told me that ABC was down at the complex filming something and the staff and public over there were running around like slavering publicity hounds.

I just grabbed a peptobismal rolled my eyes and went back to what I was doing.

Hey AM,

I agree with all three points of your rant.

Probably would have been better if Farakkhan would have just recommended Dianetics or Scientology to his congregation and left it at that.

But as we know both he and Miscavige are soul brothers as far as fascist mentality is concerned.

Caution: 3-Point Rant Alert:

1) How by any stretch of the imagination could it have been considered workable for anyone to be required to do Dianetics?. (By “workable” I mean, “giving benefit to a person”.) How can one’s self-determinism to help oneself or others with Dianetics be bypassed and made a REQUIREMENT, and still deliver the help it is supposed to deliver. For, metered auditing or not, Dianetics is the entrance to the Bridge and it DOES address case, for crying out loud! De facto, doesn’t this peg all “requisite” Dianetic auditing at 1.5?

2) The NOI’s creation theories are not important. All religions have wacky beliefs; talking snakes, sun gods, Noah’s ark, living inside a whale for 3 days, Moses parting the Red Sea, Goddess of Love Aphrodite created from sea foam, virgin birth of Jesus,, Marcabs, Xenu, whatever, and on and on, and who cares? I personally don’t. I think its great that the NOI are learning TR’s and Study Tech. I’m for everyone learning TRs, Study Tech, the ARC Triangle, etc on their own determinism, and NOTas something they MUST do in order to maintain their standing in their own, original religion. I mean, where is THAT on the Tone Scale?

3) And what I find APPALLING about the NOI is NOT the group itself nor its people nor its stated purpose which I think is basically a good and healthy one, but their leader Farakkhan and his horrible, strident anti-Semitism. It really blows my mind that the Church of Scientology could even CONSIDER on one hand a public alignment with this extremely low-toned person who blames and publicly vilifies Jewish people, while on the other hand, it (the RCS) is busy trumpeting its support of human rights and tolerance. And, where is THIS on the Tone Scale?

I don’t get it.

End of rant.

Not PRing people into believing you are indispensable which seems to be the course that the Church has taken these days.

That’s a good point, Robin. I do think that from the 80s forward, nearly all the attempts at social integration were contrived and purely PR-based, and lacked true results-driven objectivity. And it seemed to start with the need for the CoS management to control and dictate everything.

Rinder has been nominated for “Diamond Meritorious HERCULEAN Award with Honors” engraved on the largest bowling trophy on the planet.