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		By: Joe Grice		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Grice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 00:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385545&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Many years ago I read on the internet that Hubbards reliable items were power and money which makes sense to me.  The reason for security checking is to gain information or knowledge of a person so that one has power over that person.  The reason for his ethics system is upset the person and convince the person to hand money over to him via his group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385545">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Many years ago I read on the internet that Hubbards reliable items were power and money which makes sense to me.  The reason for security checking is to gain information or knowledge of a person so that one has power over that person.  The reason for his ethics system is upset the person and convince the person to hand money over to him via his group.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385550</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385275&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

ETA:  IF the folders are being coded to facilitate a future project, DO it to them NOW, while the selection criteria are current.  Tomorrow, things will change; guaranteed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385275">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>ETA:  IF the folders are being coded to facilitate a future project, DO it to them NOW, while the selection criteria are current.  Tomorrow, things will change; guaranteed.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385302&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Rip observed:
&quot;Now I just look up crap I’m interested in.&quot;
as do we all these days.
Hubbard&#039;s &quot;study tech&quot; was based on one big a=A=A:  that every random word had to be defined dictionary-perfect for real students to learn a subject.  I believe he designed study tech to punish those of us who could comfortably read and understand the many subjects he didn&#039;t feel like putting any real effort into. M1 word clearing was an attempt to magically learn everything about every subject at once. No study required.  It was a moderately obvious action, looking up unknown words, taken to such an extreme that I doubt I&#039;m the only guy who lost the ability to comfortably &#038; quickly  read just about anything in any subject, bar poetry, which still doesn&#039;t come naturally to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385302">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Rip observed:<br />
&#8220;Now I just look up crap I’m interested in.&#8221;<br />
as do we all these days.<br />
Hubbard&#8217;s &#8220;study tech&#8221; was based on one big a=A=A:  that every random word had to be defined dictionary-perfect for real students to learn a subject.  I believe he designed study tech to punish those of us who could comfortably read and understand the many subjects he didn&#8217;t feel like putting any real effort into. M1 word clearing was an attempt to magically learn everything about every subject at once. No study required.  It was a moderately obvious action, looking up unknown words, taken to such an extreme that I doubt I&#8217;m the only guy who lost the ability to comfortably &amp; quickly  read just about anything in any subject, bar poetry, which still doesn&#8217;t come naturally to me.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385167&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Rip, applying their own policy/tech wouldn&#039;t make a difference as it DOESN&#039;T WORK.   About the only time things &quot;work&quot; is when someone ignores the rules and does something which will work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385167">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Rip, applying their own policy/tech wouldn&#8217;t make a difference as it DOESN&#8217;T WORK.   About the only time things &#8220;work&#8221; is when someone ignores the rules and does something which will work.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385545</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385251&quot;&gt;Joe Grice&lt;/a&gt;.

The root &quot;why&quot; is that the tech never worked as advertised and Hubbard didn&#039;t want to confront that, never mind correct it or ADMIT to that. His ego wouldn&#039;t let him ever admit the truth, except right near the end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385251">Joe Grice</a>.</p>
<p>The root &#8220;why&#8221; is that the tech never worked as advertised and Hubbard didn&#8217;t want to confront that, never mind correct it or ADMIT to that. His ego wouldn&#8217;t let him ever admit the truth, except right near the end.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385542</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385140&quot;&gt;Zola&lt;/a&gt;.

Zola, I once worked in a company that did just that with a VERY expensive scanning system.  We STILL had to pull the file most of the time, so there was no time-savings.  You can&#039;t shred the paper as it&#039;s legally required all too often, and when there&#039;s a doubt, Hard-copy always wins.
The scanner wound up being a complete waste of time &#038; money.  I&#039;m not even sure they didn&#039;t give it away or sell it towards the end]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385140">Zola</a>.</p>
<p>Zola, I once worked in a company that did just that with a VERY expensive scanning system.  We STILL had to pull the file most of the time, so there was no time-savings.  You can&#8217;t shred the paper as it&#8217;s legally required all too often, and when there&#8217;s a doubt, Hard-copy always wins.<br />
The scanner wound up being a complete waste of time &amp; money.  I&#8217;m not even sure they didn&#8217;t give it away or sell it towards the end</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385538</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385194&quot;&gt;Skyler23&lt;/a&gt;.

Skyler, in the Sea Org, 70+ hours a week would seem like a vacation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385194">Skyler23</a>.</p>
<p>Skyler, in the Sea Org, 70+ hours a week would seem like a vacation.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385537</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385197&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Peacemaker, It&#039;s one guy for about a year — as long as he&#039;s left alone to do the f-ing JOB and not given multiple cross-purpose other things to do &quot;in his spare time&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385197">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Peacemaker, It&#8217;s one guy for about a year — as long as he&#8217;s left alone to do the f-ing JOB and not given multiple cross-purpose other things to do &#8220;in his spare time&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 18:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385190&quot;&gt;Tsu Dho Nimh&lt;/a&gt;.

I won&#039;t take that bet, Tsu Dho Nimh.  Having once &quot;been&quot; CF at Flag for awhile, I know the esteem it&#039;s held in before it&#039;s in PT.  Once it&#039;s properly organized, it looks SO easy to get &#038; keep it that way, but it isn&#039;t, if you get dragged off in other chores other than &lt;B&gt;FILING&lt;/B&gt; and organizing. Even before they threw me out of Flag, I was in the RPF, they&#039;d replaced me with 3 bodies and immediately  the filing started backlogging. They HAD my (very detailed) hat write-up and the tools I&#039;d made to do it all solo, but I might as well never been there.  EVERYONE has an idea of something ELSE for the CF people to do, every one of them violating policy.  I guess my greatest skill in that job was knowing the policy and not allowing ANYone to violate it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385190">Tsu Dho Nimh</a>.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t take that bet, Tsu Dho Nimh.  Having once &#8220;been&#8221; CF at Flag for awhile, I know the esteem it&#8217;s held in before it&#8217;s in PT.  Once it&#8217;s properly organized, it looks SO easy to get &amp; keep it that way, but it isn&#8217;t, if you get dragged off in other chores other than <b>FILING</b> and organizing. Even before they threw me out of Flag, I was in the RPF, they&#8217;d replaced me with 3 bodies and immediately  the filing started backlogging. They HAD my (very detailed) hat write-up and the tools I&#8217;d made to do it all solo, but I might as well never been there.  EVERYONE has an idea of something ELSE for the CF people to do, every one of them violating policy.  I guess my greatest skill in that job was knowing the policy and not allowing ANYone to violate it.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385530</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385212&quot;&gt;Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

About the only cycle of action DM can complete, AFAICT, is &quot;open a bottle of fine whisky, FINISH it.&quot; Anything he orders others to do gets cross-ordered or held up by his inability to allow others to DO THEIR JOBS.

Will they ever learn that getting CF up-to-date is a matter of FILING, nothing else.  If you have something else you want done, do it as a separate action &lt;b&gt;AFTER&lt;/b&gt; CF is  brought into sanity: a/k/a PT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/toronto-files-fail/#comment-385212">Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>About the only cycle of action DM can complete, AFAICT, is &#8220;open a bottle of fine whisky, FINISH it.&#8221; Anything he orders others to do gets cross-ordered or held up by his inability to allow others to DO THEIR JOBS.</p>
<p>Will they ever learn that getting CF up-to-date is a matter of FILING, nothing else.  If you have something else you want done, do it as a separate action <b>AFTER</b> CF is  brought into sanity: a/k/a PT.</p>
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