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		By: My 2 Cents		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My 2 Cents]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177021&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Careful, Brian.  You seem to be agreeing that the good in Scientology can be delivered without the bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177021">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Careful, Brian.  You seem to be agreeing that the good in Scientology can be delivered without the bad.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177286&quot;&gt;Bobbi Dennis Shipman&lt;/a&gt;.

Bobbi Dennis Shipman, there is no church directive on this.  Therefore, there is no answer to your question anymore than if you asked it of any random person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177286">Bobbi Dennis Shipman</a>.</p>
<p>Bobbi Dennis Shipman, there is no church directive on this.  Therefore, there is no answer to your question anymore than if you asked it of any random person.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 13:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-176757&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Aqua.  I knew you would get it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-176757">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Aqua.  I knew you would get it.</p>
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		By: Bobbi Dennis Shipman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbi Dennis Shipman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 13:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177285&quot;&gt;Bobbi Dennis Shipman&lt;/a&gt;.

And I still haven&#039;t seen a reply (except one) about are there special needs people in Scientology. Are they aborted instead.  Discarded?  Shipped off somewhere.  
Not mentally ill. But things like Down&#039;s syndrome etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177285">Bobbi Dennis Shipman</a>.</p>
<p>And I still haven&#8217;t seen a reply (except one) about are there special needs people in Scientology. Are they aborted instead.  Discarded?  Shipped off somewhere.<br />
Not mentally ill. But things like Down&#8217;s syndrome etc.</p>
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		By: Bobbi Dennis Shipman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbi Dennis Shipman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 13:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177010&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m of Christian belief.  I don&#039;t think I lived more than one life. I was created by God through my parents and my sole will go to heaven once I pass away.   I&#039;m good with that belief.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177010">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of Christian belief.  I don&#8217;t think I lived more than one life. I was created by God through my parents and my sole will go to heaven once I pass away.   I&#8217;m good with that belief.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177272</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 05:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177065&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Brian, the infamous Barbara Schwarz is an example of former CofS member with endless energy to promote an incoherent agenda - with no help or encouragement.  Hubbard set up a system to manipulate scientologists&#039; minds, which can leave them unstable, as it did his - exactly why Scientology may be dangerous, even if it might produce results for some.

I agree that cases like that of Paulette Cooper show how devious Scientology&#039;s operations can be, though.

p.s. marildi didn&#039;t deny that they and M2C are colluding, but just turned the accusation around - typical, and a tactic that could have come out of the GO/OSA playbook.  I also notice that, curiously, the more we see of Rathbun&#039;s new videos, the more they sound like what we have been hearing here from certain commenters - that the problem with people with complaints and lack of results is that they &quot;never really understood the subject&quot; (in spite of decades of experience and certified OT levels in many cases) and so on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177065">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Brian, the infamous Barbara Schwarz is an example of former CofS member with endless energy to promote an incoherent agenda &#8211; with no help or encouragement.  Hubbard set up a system to manipulate scientologists&#8217; minds, which can leave them unstable, as it did his &#8211; exactly why Scientology may be dangerous, even if it might produce results for some.</p>
<p>I agree that cases like that of Paulette Cooper show how devious Scientology&#8217;s operations can be, though.</p>
<p>p.s. marildi didn&#8217;t deny that they and M2C are colluding, but just turned the accusation around &#8211; typical, and a tactic that could have come out of the GO/OSA playbook.  I also notice that, curiously, the more we see of Rathbun&#8217;s new videos, the more they sound like what we have been hearing here from certain commenters &#8211; that the problem with people with complaints and lack of results is that they &#8220;never really understood the subject&#8221; (in spite of decades of experience and certified OT levels in many cases) and so on.</p>
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		By: T.J.		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 23:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177239&quot;&gt;Barbara Carr&lt;/a&gt;.

Same here, can&#039;t type well on mobile device, have been too busy to read comments in detail. Very glad to hear things turned out well for baby and family, what a relief and such happy news! Sending best wishes, good thoughts and love your way. - T.J.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177239">Barbara Carr</a>.</p>
<p>Same here, can&#8217;t type well on mobile device, have been too busy to read comments in detail. Very glad to hear things turned out well for baby and family, what a relief and such happy news! Sending best wishes, good thoughts and love your way. &#8211; T.J.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177239&quot;&gt;Barbara Carr&lt;/a&gt;.

That is wonderful. I am sorry I have not offered my support til now. Due to my schedule I have difficulty moderating a lot of time other than on my phone and it&#039;s a pain to type anything with fat thumbs. So happy to hear she is doing better. A child is a blessing unlike anything else in the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177239">Barbara Carr</a>.</p>
<p>That is wonderful. I am sorry I have not offered my support til now. Due to my schedule I have difficulty moderating a lot of time other than on my phone and it&#8217;s a pain to type anything with fat thumbs. So happy to hear she is doing better. A child is a blessing unlike anything else in the world.</p>
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		By: Barbara Carr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Carr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177231&quot;&gt;Gtsix&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps that&#039;s because Brian has feelings and emotions rather than the false application of nonsense created by a man trying to pull a tax didge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177231">Gtsix</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps that&#8217;s because Brian has feelings and emotions rather than the false application of nonsense created by a man trying to pull a tax didge.</p>
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		By: Barbara Carr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Carr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177153&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Brian, THANK YOU! You uplifted me when I saw your post. Pkease read the progress report below. The very best to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/treating-the-mentally-ill-scientology-vs-psychiatry/#comment-177153">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Brian, THANK YOU! You uplifted me when I saw your post. Pkease read the progress report below. The very best to you.</p>
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