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		By: ExScnStaff		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-468219</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 21:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-468156&quot;&gt;Jackie McGinleyey&lt;/a&gt;.

Second poster:

(1) &quot;As I understand it&quot;

Bear in mind that all of the information you could possibly have to build an understanding from comes from a third party, a third party with a very strong bias and agenda.  

(2) &quot;What I am and have been doing is something you pretended to do for years: KSW&quot;

Tied into the above, an unwavering absolute acceptance of KSW (and its premise that all Scn tech is perfect and infallible) is a built-in bias.  You are not allowed to question.  You are not allowed to understand it differently.  To pretend to apply KSW absolutely, you wind up here trolling.

Original poster:

(3) &quot;betrayal of kathy and your own children&quot;

Who turned him leaving into a three-ring circus?  Do you realize that the vast majority of ex-Scn would still be in touch with their fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, spouses, and other family, if that was an option.  Try reading LRH&#039;s own data policies and maybe someday you might realize Scientology is the ultimate third party.

(4) &quot;there are too many of us out here who remember you all too well.&quot;

There are many of &quot;you&quot; out here who, now free of the constant pressure to pretend KSW or face heavy ethics, realize Scn does not work, that LRH was a liar and manipulator extraordinaire.

There are  many of &quot;you&quot; still in who remember all too well the horrific things that are said and done, but excuse it all away by accusing the victims saying they pulled it in or they&#039;re a suppressive person and fair game for any viciousness.  

More speak out regularly about what they remember.

I only hope that someday you, too, will be free -- and hopefully far enough into the future that no more families are destroyed by Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-468156">Jackie McGinleyey</a>.</p>
<p>Second poster:</p>
<p>(1) &#8220;As I understand it&#8221;</p>
<p>Bear in mind that all of the information you could possibly have to build an understanding from comes from a third party, a third party with a very strong bias and agenda.  </p>
<p>(2) &#8220;What I am and have been doing is something you pretended to do for years: KSW&#8221;</p>
<p>Tied into the above, an unwavering absolute acceptance of KSW (and its premise that all Scn tech is perfect and infallible) is a built-in bias.  You are not allowed to question.  You are not allowed to understand it differently.  To pretend to apply KSW absolutely, you wind up here trolling.</p>
<p>Original poster:</p>
<p>(3) &#8220;betrayal of kathy and your own children&#8221;</p>
<p>Who turned him leaving into a three-ring circus?  Do you realize that the vast majority of ex-Scn would still be in touch with their fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, spouses, and other family, if that was an option.  Try reading LRH&#8217;s own data policies and maybe someday you might realize Scientology is the ultimate third party.</p>
<p>(4) &#8220;there are too many of us out here who remember you all too well.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are many of &#8220;you&#8221; out here who, now free of the constant pressure to pretend KSW or face heavy ethics, realize Scn does not work, that LRH was a liar and manipulator extraordinaire.</p>
<p>There are  many of &#8220;you&#8221; still in who remember all too well the horrific things that are said and done, but excuse it all away by accusing the victims saying they pulled it in or they&#8217;re a suppressive person and fair game for any viciousness.  </p>
<p>More speak out regularly about what they remember.</p>
<p>I only hope that someday you, too, will be free &#8212; and hopefully far enough into the future that no more families are destroyed by Scientology.</p>
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		By: Jackie McGinleyey		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-468156</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie McGinleyey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 17:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-363385&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike, so sorry I am just getting back to you on this - I just ran across it.  As I understand it - you walked out of th SO with a wife and children left behind.  That is the betrayal I am bringing up and was something you wrote sometime ago. 
No, not doing an amends project, not working on my next auditing step.  What I am and have been doing is something you pretended to do for years:  KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING.  I routed out of the S.O. for personal reasons  I did not leave without authority or leaving anyone behind.
I would ask you the same question but you have written and talked about it for years so I have no need to ask.

FUNNY HOW THIS CAME FROM A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT THAN THE ORIGINAL COMMENT... MORE OF THE TROLLING THAT HAS BECOME MORE FREQUENT RECENTLY IT SEEMS.

CARRY ON &quot;KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING&quot; -- THAT SAYS EVERYTHING  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-363385">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Mike, so sorry I am just getting back to you on this &#8211; I just ran across it.  As I understand it &#8211; you walked out of th SO with a wife and children left behind.  That is the betrayal I am bringing up and was something you wrote sometime ago.<br />
No, not doing an amends project, not working on my next auditing step.  What I am and have been doing is something you pretended to do for years:  KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING.  I routed out of the S.O. for personal reasons  I did not leave without authority or leaving anyone behind.<br />
I would ask you the same question but you have written and talked about it for years so I have no need to ask.</p>
<p>FUNNY HOW THIS CAME FROM A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT THAN THE ORIGINAL COMMENT&#8230; MORE OF THE TROLLING THAT HAS BECOME MORE FREQUENT RECENTLY IT SEEMS.</p>
<p>CARRY ON &#8220;KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING&#8221; &#8212; THAT SAYS EVERYTHING  </p>
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		By: Chris Barnes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Barnes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-209980&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

You are indeed a wise man! But do not forget the Valpolicella and flowers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-209980">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>You are indeed a wise man! But do not forget the Valpolicella and flowers.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-363385</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 23:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-363374&quot;&gt;Jackie McGinley&lt;/a&gt;.

My &quot;betrayal&quot; consisted of what exactly?

Are you doing an amends project or trying to get qualified for some auditing?

Why did you leave the Sea Org?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-363374">Jackie McGinley</a>.</p>
<p>My &#8220;betrayal&#8221; consisted of what exactly?</p>
<p>Are you doing an amends project or trying to get qualified for some auditing?</p>
<p>Why did you leave the Sea Org?</p>
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		By: Jackie McGinley		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-363374</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie McGinley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 21:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WITH YOUR BETRAYAL OF KATHY AND YOUR OWN CHILDREN - i WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW LOW-LIFE THIS IS COMING FROM YOU!  The thing Mike is, there are too many of us out here who remember you all too well.

Nothing quite like throwing stones at another from a Glass House]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WITH YOUR BETRAYAL OF KATHY AND YOUR OWN CHILDREN &#8211; i WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW LOW-LIFE THIS IS COMING FROM YOU!  The thing Mike is, there are too many of us out here who remember you all too well.</p>
<p>Nothing quite like throwing stones at another from a Glass House</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-221663</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (37 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-209882&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

??Huh?  &quot;in THEIR minds they were married to me….BUT “I did NOT have sex with those women”&quot;

Yeah?   And waddabout them kids they bore you?

  Oh, Yeah, the kids really did bore you.  (when they weren&#039;t failing to uphold your mostly unstated,  arbitrary and capricious standards.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-209882">Balletlady</a>.</p>
<p>??Huh?  &#8220;in THEIR minds they were married to me….BUT “I did NOT have sex with those women”&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah?   And waddabout them kids they bore you?</p>
<p>  Oh, Yeah, the kids really did bore you.  (when they weren&#8217;t failing to uphold your mostly unstated,  arbitrary and capricious standards.)</p>
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		By: Zardu Bafflemaff		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-210446</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zardu Bafflemaff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 01:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-210388&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Tyler Perry’s Madea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-210388">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Tyler Perry’s Madea.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-209979&quot;&gt;Zardu Bafflemaff&lt;/a&gt;.

Madea?  What&#039;s that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-209979">Zardu Bafflemaff</a>.</p>
<p>Madea?  What&#8217;s that?</p>
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		By: T-Marie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-210276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T-Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 04:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yep, with that stellar record, he qualifies to offer some sage words.&quot;
ROFLMAO!!!! :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yep, with that stellar record, he qualifies to offer some sage words.&#8221;<br />
ROFLMAO!!!! 😀</p>
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		By: peterl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peterl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2018 07:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-210125&quot;&gt;Cathy Leslie&lt;/a&gt;.

What kind of psychotic episode was LRH having when he wrote that drivel ? , We are all individuals who all have differing likes and dislikes , nobody can categorise any woman&#039;s way of thinking into one box or mindset , my wife is a completely different individual to any of her friends or or anyone else for that matter , that&#039;s what makes us so diverse and why I love her to bits , god to think that all women are the same would this world such a boring place .
And as for LRH writing that drivel , what a hypocrite after what he did to his wife&#039;s and children , he certainly is no role model .
And as for the the current divine loser Miscavige , where is Shelly ? , does anybody know her location or why she just dropped of the face of the earth ? .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valentine-wisdom-from-l-ron-hubbard/#comment-210125">Cathy Leslie</a>.</p>
<p>What kind of psychotic episode was LRH having when he wrote that drivel ? , We are all individuals who all have differing likes and dislikes , nobody can categorise any woman&#8217;s way of thinking into one box or mindset , my wife is a completely different individual to any of her friends or or anyone else for that matter , that&#8217;s what makes us so diverse and why I love her to bits , god to think that all women are the same would this world such a boring place .<br />
And as for LRH writing that drivel , what a hypocrite after what he did to his wife&#8217;s and children , he certainly is no role model .<br />
And as for the the current divine loser Miscavige , where is Shelly ? , does anybody know her location or why she just dropped of the face of the earth ? .</p>
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