The problem is that getting the answer will probably set you back about $500,000.00.

Good post. Thank you Doug.

Cindy, that factor wouldn’t be it as Regges reg anyone at any time no matter what course length they have. As for KTL (which I have done) it probably “died” because of the logisitcs involved although according to the old Superpower WOOC data there is something about it which is “fought” by other staff who have not received it. In other words there is a resistance to getting it done. KTL if broadly applied would have made a hell of a difference; LOC, which I have not had, but have read, was ok but similar to many actions which good Qual staff got the staff to do anyway and was probably over-hyped, certainly when compared to KTL, which was dynamite.

I have one of those ULC ordinations.Cost me nothing and I have no use for it.

rev·er·end 1. used as a title or form of address to members of the clergy.
“the Reverend Jesse Jackson”
noun informal noun: reverend; plural noun: reverends 1. a member of the clergy.

Back in my training days and likely a staff-only thing, those training to be an auditor had to take the Minister’s course and then register as a minister. I registered in Louisiana. So yeah, I’m a registered minister and you can always call me Reverend T-Marie 😉

Just a quick little ditty, posted 9 years ago on a law site: In the US it is legal to either go into a seminary and study for the right to become a ordained minister or you can simply proclaim yourself one though several pay sites. These sites are legal and while some Church’s find them to be controversial the fact is once you have your credentials you are deemed a minster in the eyes of the law.
Perhaps the most popular instant-minister organization is the Universal Life Church (ULC).
To ordain yourself you can go to the following sites: ULC.org, ULC.net, or the ULC HQ, and look for the “ordination” link. Then supply your full name and address, and you’re a minister. Some of the sites provide a printable credential, while others will mail you a paper credential.

However, several states have additional requirements, Louisiana ministers must register their name and address with the state or county, or present a copy of their credentials to a state or county office before they can perform weddings.

😉 LOL Jewish Rabbit

I’m not even sure where my brother is. The last I heard he was in Clearwater. Would contacting an elder abuse hotline actually do any good? They would be up against the $cientology Wall.

At least there’s welfare. I hope.

As a public- I was always a public, never staff – I did KTL and LOC and loved them and were helped a great deal by doing them. In fact, they were/are my favorite courses. (To each his own, right?) Anyway It astounded me to learn that my org was ceasing to deliver KTL and LOC. I asked a few staff members why and by way of answers got what by that time were the usual non-satisfactory non-answer/no-answers . One I tried again with one of the execs, who told me plainly that she didn’t know why KTL and LOC were not being delivered anymore. She herself had not been given a reason. I thought this was amazing and said so. I knew she agreed with me but couldn’t admit that to me.

Contact the local “Office for the Aging” Or the “Elder Abuse Hotline”……