Dan, if everybody else loses and Dave comes out on top, hasn’t he won?

I think it may be even have become acceptable to fly under the radar and still be connected to church activities. People have accepted that they need to do a balancing act to keep all aspects of their lives in order (family, job, friends, etc., including their desire for the truth about their religion, which they cannot get from inside the bubble), and I will bet that agreement is building up that this kind of behavior is okay. Soon it will even stop reading on sec check questions! Note to DM: you have lost.

that is precisely it KF. When I joined I understood we would become all “nice” people…well on the contrary I noticed that the higher people went the harder and harsher they became with MegaEgos and able to lie for petty reasons. How shocking really.
I still believe in the Tech of Ron though and will definitely try the “other” route.

Miscadaverage knows that lots of people reading these pathetic emails are old veterans who know how to do it right and get real production, and he can’t stand that they did better than him in the real world, not just on lined stat graph paper. That’s why he declared them and threw them out.

Corrected semicolons and all?

There are Ebay sellers that do more stats and the books are a couple of bucks. I can get the entire basics for $25 now.

It depends. If the org staff is falling appart, duplicating the function is a good thing. Not that I think an OT-manned org would be a good idea as such.

OT redefined as “To be just like Dave.”

You stole his “thunder ” Laurie? Sounds more like you exposed his petulance.

Shouldn’t he have unlimited access to “thunder” as an OT 8? I would be embarrassed to be at the top of the Bridge and an utter such a statement in front of an audience. It seems like grace, humility and a sense of humor would be just some of the hallmarks of a real OT.

DollarMorgue, so what is the “tipping point” you have seen because I would sure like to witness it in my situation?