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		By: Dotey OT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dotey OT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2021 13:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401654&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

There is no doubt that the pandemic gave them a gut punch in regards to what was &quot;normal&quot; operations.  

In Atlanta, day staff is now at five shills.  One has a wife that supports him, the ED still lives from her deceased husband&#039;s dental practice, I am insure how the others pay for food.  

The foundation ED and her husband that is on staff have paying jobs outside. I don&#039;t know how many foundation staff there now are.

Atlanta&#039;s plight is known broadly by those that wish to look.  It went from a &quot;glorious&quot; grand opening in April 2016 with +200 day and +100 foundation staff to 5 day and who knows foundation.

I know of four Atlanta parishioners that moved this year to CW.  One was Atlanta staff and his wife, the two others are trying to make it up the bridge past clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401654">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that the pandemic gave them a gut punch in regards to what was &#8220;normal&#8221; operations.  </p>
<p>In Atlanta, day staff is now at five shills.  One has a wife that supports him, the ED still lives from her deceased husband&#8217;s dental practice, I am insure how the others pay for food.  </p>
<p>The foundation ED and her husband that is on staff have paying jobs outside. I don&#8217;t know how many foundation staff there now are.</p>
<p>Atlanta&#8217;s plight is known broadly by those that wish to look.  It went from a &#8220;glorious&#8221; grand opening in April 2016 with +200 day and +100 foundation staff to 5 day and who knows foundation.</p>
<p>I know of four Atlanta parishioners that moved this year to CW.  One was Atlanta staff and his wife, the two others are trying to make it up the bridge past clear.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401380&quot;&gt;Dotey OT&lt;/a&gt;.

Dotey, insiders from St. Louis have reported a similar exodus of locals to &quot;mecca&quot; after they concluded the org was run by SPs - long-term executives there are, from reports, exploitive, though i would think that should raise the question of why international management allows the situation to persist unless the underlying problem is even larger.

I wonder how much of that is going on at other local orgs, as the CofS falters and shrinks.  It may also be a symptom of their having lost, and no longer being able to attract, the sort of good, capable people who once made it what it was.

And will the aftermath of the pandemic accelerate such trends?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401380">Dotey OT</a>.</p>
<p>Dotey, insiders from St. Louis have reported a similar exodus of locals to &#8220;mecca&#8221; after they concluded the org was run by SPs &#8211; long-term executives there are, from reports, exploitive, though i would think that should raise the question of why international management allows the situation to persist unless the underlying problem is even larger.</p>
<p>I wonder how much of that is going on at other local orgs, as the CofS falters and shrinks.  It may also be a symptom of their having lost, and no longer being able to attract, the sort of good, capable people who once made it what it was.</p>
<p>And will the aftermath of the pandemic accelerate such trends?</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loosing my Religion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401503&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere thanks a lot for these informations. For them those &quot;good old times&quot; are definitely over.]]></description>
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<p>Jere thanks a lot for these informations. For them those &#8220;good old times&#8221; are definitely over.</p>
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		By: grisianfarce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grisianfarce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 10:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401491&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly!  Just typical of Hubbard to make contradictory policy and try to pretend the old one never happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401491">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly!  Just typical of Hubbard to make contradictory policy and try to pretend the old one never happened.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 02:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We wanted a big, booming org&quot; - and we don&#039;t have one.&quot;

Mike, how do you manage to crack me up without even trying?

Still laughing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We wanted a big, booming org&#8221; &#8211; and we don&#8217;t have one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike, how do you manage to crack me up without even trying?</p>
<p>Still laughing!</p>
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Kamran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2021 01:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401507&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Scientology ,having feet  on two boats same time :  text of 50&#039;s and challanges of new mellinium.

The &quot; know all&quot; founder  was ignorent about the  computer and internet technology emerging in next 2 to 3 decades  but had exact  details next trillion years of Universe  future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401507">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Scientology ,having feet  on two boats same time :  text of 50&#8217;s and challanges of new mellinium.</p>
<p>The &#8221; know all&#8221; founder  was ignorent about the  computer and internet technology emerging in next 2 to 3 decades  but had exact  details next trillion years of Universe  future.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 23:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401329&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Hubbard rigged it so NO org could/would pay staff a semi-living wage even in the best of times. Miscavige took it to the next level of depravity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401329">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Hubbard rigged it so NO org could/would pay staff a semi-living wage even in the best of times. Miscavige took it to the next level of depravity.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 23:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, I&#039;m really liking the &quot;Important Quotes&quot; section. Some important thoughts in them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I&#8217;m really liking the &#8220;Important Quotes&#8221; section. Some important thoughts in them.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 22:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401396&quot;&gt;Mark Kamran&lt;/a&gt;.

Tubby hardly understood the technology of the &#039;40s and couldn&#039;t have anticipated ANY of what we take for granted these days. He didn&#039;t have that sort of imagination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401396">Mark Kamran</a>.</p>
<p>Tubby hardly understood the technology of the &#8217;40s and couldn&#8217;t have anticipated ANY of what we take for granted these days. He didn&#8217;t have that sort of imagination.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 22:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401355&quot;&gt;Loosing my Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

LmR, it WAS repeated; on the Apollo doing just the same thing as old SH, and later at the Flag Land bases-- there were two in Florida in late &#039;75.
Slightly earlier, Hana pulled off miracles establishing AOLA IIRC.  Whichever org, it was quite the happening place while she was running the show, as I heard it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/we-wanted-a-big-booming-org-and-we-dont-have-one/#comment-401355">Loosing my Religion</a>.</p>
<p>LmR, it WAS repeated; on the Apollo doing just the same thing as old SH, and later at the Flag Land bases&#8211; there were two in Florida in late &#8217;75.<br />
Slightly earlier, Hana pulled off miracles establishing AOLA IIRC.  Whichever org, it was quite the happening place while she was running the show, as I heard it.</p>
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