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		By: James		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-180387&quot;&gt;Joetheta&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi C.B, hope you are well!  Are you still on here? I would love to be able to ask a few questions about floating needles and tone arm floating if you have a few minutes?]]></description>
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<p>Hi C.B, hope you are well!  Are you still on here? I would love to be able to ask a few questions about floating needles and tone arm floating if you have a few minutes?</p>
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		By: Presto 50		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-355938&quot;&gt;M&lt;/a&gt;.

it is called o ut-int you LOL,

Oh also it is out -tech so thats what you get]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-355938">M</a>.</p>
<p>it is called o ut-int you LOL,</p>
<p>Oh also it is out -tech so thats what you get</p>
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		By: Episode 51: The Bridge Deep Dive Part 2 with Bruce Hines		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Episode 51: The Bridge Deep Dive Part 2 with Bruce Hines]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] We also mentioned Bruce Ploetz, the electrical engineer at Gold who knows more about the E-Meter than anyone on earth. He wrote an article for this blog entitled What About the E-Meter? [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] We also mentioned Bruce Ploetz, the electrical engineer at Gold who knows more about the E-Meter than anyone on earth. He wrote an article for this blog entitled What About the E-Meter? [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Shawn Skinner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-180415&quot;&gt;Joetheta&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi  CB,  Did you read Bent&#039;s book?  Long time no see.  Shawn Skinner]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-180415">Joetheta</a>.</p>
<p>Hi  CB,  Did you read Bent&#8217;s book?  Long time no see.  Shawn Skinner</p>
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		By: M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You should try passing a frequency ramp of 1V from 100kHz to 10Mhz over a 1s duration through cans you hold one in each hand repeatedly. This is so terrifying it&#039;s absolutely not recommended to anyone. Accidentally doing so creates a terrifying state of anxiety, increased rate of breathing and a feeling that one is trapped and unable to get out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should try passing a frequency ramp of 1V from 100kHz to 10Mhz over a 1s duration through cans you hold one in each hand repeatedly. This is so terrifying it&#8217;s absolutely not recommended to anyone. Accidentally doing so creates a terrifying state of anxiety, increased rate of breathing and a feeling that one is trapped and unable to get out.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-306530&quot;&gt;Terry&lt;/a&gt;.

This is in response to a VERY old comment.

Not sure why you are suddenly appearing with this?]]></description>
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<p>This is in response to a VERY old comment.</p>
<p>Not sure why you are suddenly appearing with this?</p>
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		By: Terry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-180551&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Be aware that BT / CLUSTERS / BLACK STATICS cling to &quot;Meat Bodies&quot; but also to the Etheric or finer bodies. [ Thetan if you wish ]
Dumping the &quot;Meat Body&quot; does not always mean that you will get rid of them.

Hubbards &quot;Case&quot; setup Scientology and those with a parallel &quot;Case&quot; did well. Those with a differing case did not do as well. To me OT1 - OT2 and OT3 were a joke. On OT3 I did a lot of hours with reasonable &quot;large Ticks&quot; as indications on the meter. In hind site these were auditing other things but at the time about half way through I did an experiment. I concluded that OT3 was bogus. To prove this I read the pre-set materials ahead --all at once to see if anything would happen. Well after a page and a half, I stopped and felt weird, my stomach felt weird my head also--so I lay down. It got worse. To explain I have a capability to &quot;Blow off&quot; what-ever is re-stimulated to a degree--after about 30 minutes the center of my head just went &quot;crack&quot; and my head jumped up from it, I then felt better. After that I had no reads on the OT3 materials. The Official explanation that my &quot;CASE&quot; went to &quot;no reads&quot; was that my &quot;CASE&quot; went SOLID. Which is a joke also.

The Emeter is an aid that works most of the time. People in this thread discount the most important thing in Auditing, the Auditor and to find something in the person that will &quot;run&quot; and get a success on it. The &quot;CASE&quot; or &quot;Spirituality&quot; of the AUDITOR is &quot;king&quot; not the e-meter. When the person gets &quot;RESULTS&quot; like I did eventually and my IQ went from 127 to 141 and beyond, which is a different level of thinking, then you know something is going on--that was simple Scientology Auditing which is &quot;Key out&quot; processing.

BLACK STATIC processing is &quot;key in&quot; processing where everything is re stimulated and not keyed out/blown off. If done in the &quot;non-interference zone&quot; where a Person can not see pictures / can create floating needles at a whim / or has the NOTS or OT case in re-stimulation this will kill that individual. That is what happened to me. I did not die as I have a few tricks up my sleeve. I only just crawled out from under it though. It however can not be left alone as it has to be blown off continually as its a continually sinking lid back onto me, that was 25 years ago and its still dogging me. I suspect NOTs as before the levels above it people were on the never-ending NOTS carousel.

If you still doubt re-stimulation there was a book called &quot;The Piped Piper&quot; written by a Scientologist. I read 3 chapters then stopped. IT took ONE week to blow-off the what-ever it re-stimulated and I returned the book. I was told that all who had read that book ended up with problems and needed auditing to fix them up.

If you want a real world incident then Mr Jessup and the men in Black. Mr Jessup after talking to the men in Black slumped into a depression eventually killing himself. Its what they told him that did not so much bother him, but keyed in on him to produce the depression/suicide. 

The HIDDEN Communication line. Hubbard decried this as FALSE, because he knew that &quot;telepathic&quot; communication was real but trouble-some to Scientology. Best Auditors are Telepathic but also who have conquered Prejudges, Resentment and have attained gratitude. A lot of so called OT&#039;s are simply husks with high IQ&#039;s of no particular worth as the &quot;Scientology&quot; processing is a very narrow band. As Hubbard said a Cannibal that is clear, is just a Cleared Cannibal, nothing more. A lot of good Auditors use the Pupil of the eye, the tone of voice, the body language, the e-meter and the Aura [ as those that they can see it ]  as well as Telepathy to Audit.
The second Brain of the body is also implicated in Auditing as it will affect the nervous system. The liver is the main component, with the other abdomen organs adding to it. This is what gives you hunches, and communicates in Emotions rather than verbal/Telepathic communication. As I have chased this down it has become &quot;more&quot; active. To some degree huge Emotions can be expended by it, the gradients can be colossal.

RH +ve &quot;Meat bodies are Monkey DNA.
RH -ve &quot;Meat Bodies &quot; are Feline DNA.
They both look the same.

The RH +ve &quot;meat bodies&quot; have a Monkey Telepathic structure that is in all Apes. It uses Impressions rather than words. It is the &quot;I was thinking about you the other day&quot; and that was the time you were thinking about them. It is the reason in Java where there are a lot of islands, that one group of Monkeys pioneered opening Clam shells with stones, that this spread to the other islands in a short time without any monkey leaving the pioneering Island.
This structure has a built in back door in RH+ve Humans, it is hardware changed to allow access to it at a certain frequency in a Human persons brain for Spying and Control of the Body. A transmission at the correct frequency can block it. However there is the chance that it can be used in reverse due to the a Transmitter is also a receiver.

Full blown Telepathy is verbal orientated. Monkey Telepathy is &quot;Feeling&quot; or &quot;picture&quot; orientated. Due to circumstances involving full blown Telepathy-- they were-- I was not -- a bit seemingly rubbed off on me and I started to receive things. It seems Earth girls &quot;know&quot; if you can receive a message as I found out, and I was sent a picture of the female person involved with a picture as clear as day of her as YOUNG, and as she stood before me, as OLDER.&quot; I was taken aback, did not understand it, so I said in my head, show me when you were younger again. Just a test on my behalf. She dropped her head down and a wave of Telepathic disappointment followed.

That disappointment communication I had received before in the previous. I later found out that she was pregnant and it was a communication on that fact, but to me it was a cryptic communication. 

Proper full on Telepathy is like HD 100 inch TV with surround sound. There are problems with it and misunderstanding&#039;s can happen as you have to understand exactly what is happening. Again I failed in this and the communication was complicated and non-sequitur. This all happened --- and is simply told to ensure you know the pitfalls of two-way Telepathic communication. In auditing you only use one way communication in Telepathy usually to simplify the process. The Auditor talks to the Person both verbally and listens in Telepathy. Then can guide telepathically without words--yes that can be done. Verbal is common. But a &quot;thought transferred&quot; is also equally common. That is how the &quot;backdoor&quot; to RH+ve Humans is done. Setup is a while, but what I saw was the close down sequence and that is faster than lightning.  I am not a Telepathic person, this has been deliberately suppressed in me and for the above reasons I really do not like Telepathy.

Masses engulf the body as does a Black static, hence affecting all the skin that is why solo auditing works. Also the Bodies second brain affects the e-meter.
Also people can deliberately muck with the CS, Auditor or the person being audited through the RH+ve Telepathy center.
To make a point masses are less dense than a body and can merge with the body.
A person is a mass od masses, in that they are like balloons attached to that person but at different distances. When a person moves they pull these masses around.
Hence if everyone in a City has a Mass with Yellow Submarines in it, then a Telecast of the Yellow Submarine will probably activate it, or pull it in to engulf the persons body, but to most people in the city. Now you know why Television will not disappear, its too good a controlling mechanism to throw away.
A place can feel like &quot;heavy mass&quot; if everyone is keyed into the sane thing or lots of things.The masses are engulfing everyone. Yesterday the masses were 2 miles away, today they engulf the people due to a common trigger, Radio or TV.

The e-meter can be replaced by an EEG machine. E-meters are so one dimensional.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-180551">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Be aware that BT / CLUSTERS / BLACK STATICS cling to &#8220;Meat Bodies&#8221; but also to the Etheric or finer bodies. [ Thetan if you wish ]<br />
Dumping the &#8220;Meat Body&#8221; does not always mean that you will get rid of them.</p>
<p>Hubbards &#8220;Case&#8221; setup Scientology and those with a parallel &#8220;Case&#8221; did well. Those with a differing case did not do as well. To me OT1 &#8211; OT2 and OT3 were a joke. On OT3 I did a lot of hours with reasonable &#8220;large Ticks&#8221; as indications on the meter. In hind site these were auditing other things but at the time about half way through I did an experiment. I concluded that OT3 was bogus. To prove this I read the pre-set materials ahead &#8211;all at once to see if anything would happen. Well after a page and a half, I stopped and felt weird, my stomach felt weird my head also&#8211;so I lay down. It got worse. To explain I have a capability to &#8220;Blow off&#8221; what-ever is re-stimulated to a degree&#8211;after about 30 minutes the center of my head just went &#8220;crack&#8221; and my head jumped up from it, I then felt better. After that I had no reads on the OT3 materials. The Official explanation that my &#8220;CASE&#8221; went to &#8220;no reads&#8221; was that my &#8220;CASE&#8221; went SOLID. Which is a joke also.</p>
<p>The Emeter is an aid that works most of the time. People in this thread discount the most important thing in Auditing, the Auditor and to find something in the person that will &#8220;run&#8221; and get a success on it. The &#8220;CASE&#8221; or &#8220;Spirituality&#8221; of the AUDITOR is &#8220;king&#8221; not the e-meter. When the person gets &#8220;RESULTS&#8221; like I did eventually and my IQ went from 127 to 141 and beyond, which is a different level of thinking, then you know something is going on&#8211;that was simple Scientology Auditing which is &#8220;Key out&#8221; processing.</p>
<p>BLACK STATIC processing is &#8220;key in&#8221; processing where everything is re stimulated and not keyed out/blown off. If done in the &#8220;non-interference zone&#8221; where a Person can not see pictures / can create floating needles at a whim / or has the NOTS or OT case in re-stimulation this will kill that individual. That is what happened to me. I did not die as I have a few tricks up my sleeve. I only just crawled out from under it though. It however can not be left alone as it has to be blown off continually as its a continually sinking lid back onto me, that was 25 years ago and its still dogging me. I suspect NOTs as before the levels above it people were on the never-ending NOTS carousel.</p>
<p>If you still doubt re-stimulation there was a book called &#8220;The Piped Piper&#8221; written by a Scientologist. I read 3 chapters then stopped. IT took ONE week to blow-off the what-ever it re-stimulated and I returned the book. I was told that all who had read that book ended up with problems and needed auditing to fix them up.</p>
<p>If you want a real world incident then Mr Jessup and the men in Black. Mr Jessup after talking to the men in Black slumped into a depression eventually killing himself. Its what they told him that did not so much bother him, but keyed in on him to produce the depression/suicide. </p>
<p>The HIDDEN Communication line. Hubbard decried this as FALSE, because he knew that &#8220;telepathic&#8221; communication was real but trouble-some to Scientology. Best Auditors are Telepathic but also who have conquered Prejudges, Resentment and have attained gratitude. A lot of so called OT&#8217;s are simply husks with high IQ&#8217;s of no particular worth as the &#8220;Scientology&#8221; processing is a very narrow band. As Hubbard said a Cannibal that is clear, is just a Cleared Cannibal, nothing more. A lot of good Auditors use the Pupil of the eye, the tone of voice, the body language, the e-meter and the Aura [ as those that they can see it ]  as well as Telepathy to Audit.<br />
The second Brain of the body is also implicated in Auditing as it will affect the nervous system. The liver is the main component, with the other abdomen organs adding to it. This is what gives you hunches, and communicates in Emotions rather than verbal/Telepathic communication. As I have chased this down it has become &#8220;more&#8221; active. To some degree huge Emotions can be expended by it, the gradients can be colossal.</p>
<p>RH +ve &#8220;Meat bodies are Monkey DNA.<br />
RH -ve &#8220;Meat Bodies &#8221; are Feline DNA.<br />
They both look the same.</p>
<p>The RH +ve &#8220;meat bodies&#8221; have a Monkey Telepathic structure that is in all Apes. It uses Impressions rather than words. It is the &#8220;I was thinking about you the other day&#8221; and that was the time you were thinking about them. It is the reason in Java where there are a lot of islands, that one group of Monkeys pioneered opening Clam shells with stones, that this spread to the other islands in a short time without any monkey leaving the pioneering Island.<br />
This structure has a built in back door in RH+ve Humans, it is hardware changed to allow access to it at a certain frequency in a Human persons brain for Spying and Control of the Body. A transmission at the correct frequency can block it. However there is the chance that it can be used in reverse due to the a Transmitter is also a receiver.</p>
<p>Full blown Telepathy is verbal orientated. Monkey Telepathy is &#8220;Feeling&#8221; or &#8220;picture&#8221; orientated. Due to circumstances involving full blown Telepathy&#8211; they were&#8211; I was not &#8212; a bit seemingly rubbed off on me and I started to receive things. It seems Earth girls &#8220;know&#8221; if you can receive a message as I found out, and I was sent a picture of the female person involved with a picture as clear as day of her as YOUNG, and as she stood before me, as OLDER.&#8221; I was taken aback, did not understand it, so I said in my head, show me when you were younger again. Just a test on my behalf. She dropped her head down and a wave of Telepathic disappointment followed.</p>
<p>That disappointment communication I had received before in the previous. I later found out that she was pregnant and it was a communication on that fact, but to me it was a cryptic communication. </p>
<p>Proper full on Telepathy is like HD 100 inch TV with surround sound. There are problems with it and misunderstanding&#8217;s can happen as you have to understand exactly what is happening. Again I failed in this and the communication was complicated and non-sequitur. This all happened &#8212; and is simply told to ensure you know the pitfalls of two-way Telepathic communication. In auditing you only use one way communication in Telepathy usually to simplify the process. The Auditor talks to the Person both verbally and listens in Telepathy. Then can guide telepathically without words&#8211;yes that can be done. Verbal is common. But a &#8220;thought transferred&#8221; is also equally common. That is how the &#8220;backdoor&#8221; to RH+ve Humans is done. Setup is a while, but what I saw was the close down sequence and that is faster than lightning.  I am not a Telepathic person, this has been deliberately suppressed in me and for the above reasons I really do not like Telepathy.</p>
<p>Masses engulf the body as does a Black static, hence affecting all the skin that is why solo auditing works. Also the Bodies second brain affects the e-meter.<br />
Also people can deliberately muck with the CS, Auditor or the person being audited through the RH+ve Telepathy center.<br />
To make a point masses are less dense than a body and can merge with the body.<br />
A person is a mass od masses, in that they are like balloons attached to that person but at different distances. When a person moves they pull these masses around.<br />
Hence if everyone in a City has a Mass with Yellow Submarines in it, then a Telecast of the Yellow Submarine will probably activate it, or pull it in to engulf the persons body, but to most people in the city. Now you know why Television will not disappear, its too good a controlling mechanism to throw away.<br />
A place can feel like &#8220;heavy mass&#8221; if everyone is keyed into the sane thing or lots of things.The masses are engulfing everyone. Yesterday the masses were 2 miles away, today they engulf the people due to a common trigger, Radio or TV.</p>
<p>The e-meter can be replaced by an EEG machine. E-meters are so one dimensional.</p>
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		By: Nicholas Jordan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-180955&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

The issue is with those few who prey on others by pretending or inventing beliefs with the purpose of gaining undue influence over others. I had and have on ongoing 2WC with a person whom is seeing to such an extent many would not believe me

To begin I went into extensive studies of neurology and biophysics finding only a paucity of cases <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2666.png" alt="♦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I can control the persons thoughts from my own self

Inducing terror or trauma at-will is neither for the Lame nor the Tame though I can do it at-will to such an extent that I have to control my *own* thoughts and intent 

Above Mr. Rinder states one of the few true genuises I have ever met

True enough the physical device ^does^ track GSR 

Whether something impinges  as described by Hubbard has to do with other than such simplistic as whether GSR is directly «reading» mental-mass; Which a PC can carry without it impinging &#038; research is or only likely to be funded by non-believers whom eschew such things as Mr. Rinder is willing to consider and Mr. Hubbard is not above lying to make a buck though his interest which devolves from the original interest in SF or such things generally is not well developed like it should be to do things like attempt the 8 Material and so-on <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2666.png" alt="♦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I did read the Fishman Exhibit; Drafting through it in only 3 days after getting the link from Chuck and find nothing exceptional in there other than some minor gains in thoughts ideas and notions 

I do not have Hubbard&#039;s Synthetic Entities thing to hand though he speaks of it correctly as not an especially brilliant or insightful ( influence ) → The machine measures impingement → of the mental-mass → created by Tension → which causes a density → which is not the body 

This interaction has sufficient studies to demonstrate that this mental-mass — which some claim to be able to see in a conventional sense — differs from such simplistic&#039;s as claiming all R/S is  Evil Int as any Raucous Intense Counter Effort *will* produce an R/S when as described in 8-80 *&#038; 8008 ◘ This can vary widely 

An over-eager ( case ) can build Community of Intelligent Synthetic Entities ..... Using them as Combat Team though this is way beyond even what Hubbard described or envisioned for the work as his motif is Humanistic not Galactic Warfare as he described it unless we consider allegory and metaphor as  something to get the person thinking; In abstract concepts

So as not to scare the Self 

It will if you assign self-directed choice and the capacity to act on that to these Synthetic Entities <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2666.png" alt="♦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> When Lisa crowds me about her Christian Theology I use it to get her to back off <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2666.png" alt="♦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> This for me is very funny 

Wall of Fire? 

Kiddie stuff; Try Gamma then get back with me]]></description>
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<p>The issue is with those few who prey on others by pretending or inventing beliefs with the purpose of gaining undue influence over others. I had and have on ongoing 2WC with a person whom is seeing to such an extent many would not believe me</p>
<p>To begin I went into extensive studies of neurology and biophysics finding only a paucity of cases ♦ I can control the persons thoughts from my own self</p>
<p>Inducing terror or trauma at-will is neither for the Lame nor the Tame though I can do it at-will to such an extent that I have to control my *own* thoughts and intent </p>
<p>Above Mr. Rinder states one of the few true genuises I have ever met</p>
<p>True enough the physical device ^does^ track GSR </p>
<p>Whether something impinges  as described by Hubbard has to do with other than such simplistic as whether GSR is directly «reading» mental-mass; Which a PC can carry without it impinging &amp; research is or only likely to be funded by non-believers whom eschew such things as Mr. Rinder is willing to consider and Mr. Hubbard is not above lying to make a buck though his interest which devolves from the original interest in SF or such things generally is not well developed like it should be to do things like attempt the 8 Material and so-on ♦ I did read the Fishman Exhibit; Drafting through it in only 3 days after getting the link from Chuck and find nothing exceptional in there other than some minor gains in thoughts ideas and notions </p>
<p>I do not have Hubbard&#8217;s Synthetic Entities thing to hand though he speaks of it correctly as not an especially brilliant or insightful ( influence ) → The machine measures impingement → of the mental-mass → created by Tension → which causes a density → which is not the body </p>
<p>This interaction has sufficient studies to demonstrate that this mental-mass — which some claim to be able to see in a conventional sense — differs from such simplistic&#8217;s as claiming all R/S is  Evil Int as any Raucous Intense Counter Effort *will* produce an R/S when as described in 8-80 *&amp; 8008 ◘ This can vary widely </p>
<p>An over-eager ( case ) can build Community of Intelligent Synthetic Entities &#8230;.. Using them as Combat Team though this is way beyond even what Hubbard described or envisioned for the work as his motif is Humanistic not Galactic Warfare as he described it unless we consider allegory and metaphor as  something to get the person thinking; In abstract concepts</p>
<p>So as not to scare the Self </p>
<p>It will if you assign self-directed choice and the capacity to act on that to these Synthetic Entities ♦ When Lisa crowds me about her Christian Theology I use it to get her to back off ♦ This for me is very funny </p>
<p>Wall of Fire? </p>
<p>Kiddie stuff; Try Gamma then get back with me</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-about-the-e-meter/#comment-180947&quot;&gt;Arnie Lerma&lt;/a&gt;.

Fascinating, Arnie. As Jon Atack always says, &quot;Never believe a hypnotist&quot;.http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/hypnosis.html 

I am no expert on neurology and biophysics, I just know the electronics on the other side of the cans. Once it was obvious that Hubbard was lying to make a buck, I jettisoned all interest in meters and all that. 

Sort of like being the world&#039;s foremost expert on buggy whips - of historical interest or possibly important to a small niche of hobbyists but not the way to fame and fortune in the modern world of automobiles and jet planes. 

But clearly there is more to know. Perhaps some research will be done by reputable scientists, and these phenomena will someday prove to be useful outside of the context of the money-grubbing cult.]]></description>
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<p>Fascinating, Arnie. As Jon Atack always says, &#8220;Never believe a hypnotist&#8221;.<a href="http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/hypnosis.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/hypnosis.html</a> </p>
<p>I am no expert on neurology and biophysics, I just know the electronics on the other side of the cans. Once it was obvious that Hubbard was lying to make a buck, I jettisoned all interest in meters and all that. </p>
<p>Sort of like being the world&#8217;s foremost expert on buggy whips &#8211; of historical interest or possibly important to a small niche of hobbyists but not the way to fame and fortune in the modern world of automobiles and jet planes. </p>
<p>But clearly there is more to know. Perhaps some research will be done by reputable scientists, and these phenomena will someday prove to be useful outside of the context of the money-grubbing cult.</p>
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PS: &quot;Contrary to general belief, it has been my experience that the more intelligent the subject, the easier it is to induce hypnosis” Ralph Slater, Stage Hypnotist, played Carnegie Hall several times the winter of 1949/1950 then Dianetics appeared the next spring..]]></description>
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<p>PS: &#8220;Contrary to general belief, it has been my experience that the more intelligent the subject, the easier it is to induce hypnosis” Ralph Slater, Stage Hypnotist, played Carnegie Hall several times the winter of 1949/1950 then Dianetics appeared the next spring..</p>
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