Has any considered that these Ideal Orgs are not so much simply money collecting scams as they are money laundering mechanisms for wealthy people, who may or may not be Scientologists? A “transaction fee” could go to the IAS.

If DM and RTC were actually doing.their job they would be nailing people for calling these “Ideal Orgs”. These are certainly not what LRH was talking about in the PL. Instead of enforcing that tech and policy be bu the book, DM and company are the biggest squirrels on the planet.

Wow. Good on you for actually trying. The ideal org thing was born after I was org staff, so I’ve kept my mouth …um, fairly shut. Not all the way, but reallllllllly carefully placing a few ideas. I spoke carefully and diplomatically to my Flag Maa.

I was trained and also knew of the policies it violated. When I was org staff I stood up and fought back. After, I was staff for groups and org public and really didn’t do any fighting. The ideal org program was illegal and non-lrh and BS from the get-go. (and for me, “non-lrh” no longer means anything at all as to “rightness”. It’s merely a designation of source.)

It’s funny… but we who’ve been around and on staff saw so many odd things come down the pike. I learned to pick my battles and keep my head down and “wait until this latest nonsense blows over”. but the ideal org stuff isn’t blowing over so readily.

I knew the red-on-white and the green-on-white so thoroughly and was so on board, I was so much an LRH devotee that it didn’t matter what the flavor-of-the-week Execs said and did. They were people. They weren’t lrh and they weren’t the tek.

I wrote tons of KRs on outnesses and waited.

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I stopped going to “Reg events” years ago, so I never got my hands on any copies of any DM/management issues which tout the efficacy of the ideal org pgm. Hence, my interest in seeing a copy of anything in writing. It’s a passing small fancy. We all know that it doesn’t actually matter if it’s “off policy” or not. It wouldn’t work regardless.

I figure little tiny insignificant scn was perhaps little tiny growing back in the day when there was no internet or all the exposés.

There are more people who believe in Irish faeries than scn, as is proper, safe, and sensible.

I wish we could upvote comments on this blog.

Acquamarine: You are correct. I was in the SO for 23 years and was terminated 15 years ago. Even then it was as if the people I dealt with no longer even pretended that their actions were on-policy or per LRH. They just arrogantly expected me to go along with clearly off policy activity because they said so. That anyone is fooled by the “Ideal Org” ripoff after the “Basics” ripoff and the others shows that the intelligence level of Scientologists is decreasing.

An “Ideal Org” has become one which brings in money but does not have to deliver anything.
The IASA is the most ideal org there is. It brings in millions, even billions and produces nothing and is not accountable for anything.
It is criminal and should be shut down and its leaders and henchmen jailed.

It’s very sad and outrageous. Those ‘horrible SP’s’ (on level ground with Stalins, Hitlers and Kims etc.) have hearts 10x the size of their mankind-loving, in good-standing ass-sucking scientologists. I know that conditions are improving on SO bases, more pay, even heard a rumor that RPF was cancelled, all because of the love and care and ‘greatness’ of those ‘orrible suppressives.
And the cherry on the cake is that they don’t even know that they can thank ‘SP’s’ for it!
LRH was right about what he wrote about greatness, too bad scientologists seem to all have a crashing mu’s on that quote.

Captain Miscavige, I’d like to indicate that you are a sick little freak. Thank you, your needle is rock-slamming.

Wow. Any Ideal Morgue would wag its tail and piddle on the floor with happiness if they ever got 500 people in there.

“…Now she’s making 45$ an hour and I’m quite sure her dad is now calling to benefit from the extra dough.”

I’m sure he is. I have a friend in a similar situation – her parents got in during the hippy-dippy 70’s, and wanted her to go to Apple School and maybe, if she wanted to go to college, to go to the stupid Hubbard “College” of management or whatever (which only offers an A.A.S. degree that isn’t transferable toward a Bachelors and costs $60K). But she didn’t want to be a clam, and wanted to be normal instead of living in shitty apartments and rooming houses and all that.

While they squandered whatever they earned on scientology, she ended up going to regular school and then college, getting a proper 4-year B.Sc. degree, which she paid for completely by herself with college loans and a part-time job. She makes 6 figures now, while her parents are in their 70’s, have no savings, and all they know how to do is scientology. At least they weren’t SO so they get social security checks. But guess who gets a phone call on occasion when they run out of money before the end of the month, or need the car repaired?

One crazy time was when the stupid Basics came out – Dad called her neeeeeding $3,000.00 like it was an emergency. It turned out that with a barely-running car and barely-paid rent he was trying to scrape up $3K to buy a fucking Basics package! That didn’t go over well.

To their credit, they never disconnected from her (of course, later they couldn’t or they’d starve). To her credit, she helps them out – but the deal is no more talk about scientology and trying to “salvage” her. And she won’t send them cash except maybe small amounts because she doesn’t want them giving any of her money to the Cult. Instead she gives them gift cards from their local gas station and grocery store.

Their own “church” sure as hell isn’t helping them.