Yes, Lady Jane. I don’t mind organizing with a bunch of crazy OTs, such as yourselves?

We just have to be strategic and very clever about it. If Steve Hall can design a hugely successful Dianetic campaign for only 5 grand, I imagine, with the wealth of training and creativity here, we could come up with something VERY clever – that will have impact.

Percolating now.

You’re so right Indie 8. The mest bodies won out over the OT thetans because the mest ones were organized and worked together and the OT’s were not. LRH also states that OT’s do best with other OT’s. So let’s get organized and work in a concerted and efficient and in coordination effort to bring down DM. If we organized it would happen so much faster.

+1 Scott. F Troop for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKMNt4iHMB0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKMNt4iHMB0

I so agree with you, Martin. If we took the same ferocity and velocity that we all had at the Portland Crusade and put that to work toward getting DM busted and the people taken out who are the virus to the real delivery of Scientology, it wouldn’t take much time at all.

I do believe that we have to avoid the idea that, because we’re “Indies” that we need to take on this problem in an ‘independent’ and non associative way. If anyone has read “A History of Man” there is a part toward the back of the book that talks about the Theta/MEST wars and how the MEST beings won because the huge, OT beings weren’t organized. How can we accomplish that?

I miss ol’ Heber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRj_RaBhdTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRj_RaBhdTA

Understood on that front, Shelly. I honestly think a lot of VMs have stopped VMing under the Church banner for that very same reason.

I would encourage the lurkers and the under the radars to do the same. Stop supporting the person of David MustRavage by letting him feed on your good intentions, like the recipient of the energy from the Matrix.

Let’s all unhook in the ways we can so he’s no longer using us for his theta batteries. Only instead of batteries, we’re his human ATM.

No energy = no DM. Agree? Great. Start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goFxos6tz-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goFxos6tz-o

+1 +1 +1!

I would be surprised if they spent $465,000. More like $46,500. I guarantee that tens of thousands is far closer to the correct order of magnitude than hundreds of thousands.

Dave, really? In 2012, the American Red Cross took in $670.1 million in contributions and products for disaster relief, and distributed $465.9 million in aid for domestic and international disaster relief (some years they take in more than they distribute and some years the reverse). That doesn’t count the well over $2 billion per year that the Red Cross does in revenue for blood products for hospitals and clinics. There are literally tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of volunteers, numbers supported by actual evidence, not by bloviating statements by Karin Pouw. And the stats for the American Red Cross don’t even include the $995 million the International Red Cross/Red Crescent spent on emergency field operations in 2012.

If the VM program spent $4.65 million, 1/100 of the American Red Cross total, on actual “program expenses,” I’d be extremely surprised. Yes, I know that there sometimes are enthusiastic Kool-Aid drinkers who show up and try to do something of actual value, but I understand that they’re usually paying their own way, and that’s not where the money is going. And whatever well-intentioned efforts by individuals there are, it’s not enough to make true this latest example of Miscavige Math (you have 100 and I have 1, and if I bluster long enough, I will make you believe that 1 is more than 100).

The C of S is more like “F Troop”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVwFADi4Y38