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		By: It's Me		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-304086</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 20:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245510&quot;&gt;Savgal44&lt;/a&gt;.

My thoughts exactly. Except for the &quot;nerd&quot; part. I think the computer people are the cool ones. Haha! Of course, our sweet Mike Rinder can&#039;t agree with you because this cult would claim he&#039;s inciting or some other such nonsense. I&#039;m a survivor of prolonged sexual assault and I can tell you without hesitation that I wish a Navy Seal (or some other Rambo-type figure) or a hacker had stopped it. If Shelly is being held against her will, I&#039;m sure she is hoping against all hope that she&#039;s rescued. Unfortunately, considering the evil tendencies of scientology, my fear is that DM killed her. I hope that&#039;s not the case. Anyway, back to the hackers and black op&#039;s, the real question is, how in the world do you find those people?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245510">Savgal44</a>.</p>
<p>My thoughts exactly. Except for the &#8220;nerd&#8221; part. I think the computer people are the cool ones. Haha! Of course, our sweet Mike Rinder can&#8217;t agree with you because this cult would claim he&#8217;s inciting or some other such nonsense. I&#8217;m a survivor of prolonged sexual assault and I can tell you without hesitation that I wish a Navy Seal (or some other Rambo-type figure) or a hacker had stopped it. If Shelly is being held against her will, I&#8217;m sure she is hoping against all hope that she&#8217;s rescued. Unfortunately, considering the evil tendencies of scientology, my fear is that DM killed her. I hope that&#8217;s not the case. Anyway, back to the hackers and black op&#8217;s, the real question is, how in the world do you find those people?</p>
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		By: I like Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I like Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2019 01:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-247083&quot;&gt;Ellen Dunsmore&lt;/a&gt;.

&#062;because they are “waiting for Hubbard to return”

Miscavige is waiting, too. 

What Miscavige and others (and probably Hubbard himself) didn&#039;t know was that Hubbard messed himself up so much that he needed an &quot;intermezzo life&quot; to straighten himself out a bit. That&#039;s why his return is postponed by approx. 20+ years.

I also have the feeling that Hubbard won&#039;t be too upset with Miscavige. After all Miscavige kept Scientology Churches running (more dead than alive, but still alive) which isn&#039;t an easy task at all. Especially considering that Hubbard didn&#039;t finish the Bridge himself.

The majority of BTs are aspects of yourself, by the way, they need to be re-integrated, not chased out. Hubbard&#039;s main error (AKA why Scientology doesn&#039;t work) was that he wanted to chase out anything and everything: BTs, SPs, engrams, implanters, implants, GPMs, time track. He never wanted to re-integrate/embrace mental phenomena, he only wanted to get rid of them.

But don&#039;t get me started.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-247083">Ellen Dunsmore</a>.</p>
<p>&gt;because they are “waiting for Hubbard to return”</p>
<p>Miscavige is waiting, too. </p>
<p>What Miscavige and others (and probably Hubbard himself) didn&#8217;t know was that Hubbard messed himself up so much that he needed an &#8220;intermezzo life&#8221; to straighten himself out a bit. That&#8217;s why his return is postponed by approx. 20+ years.</p>
<p>I also have the feeling that Hubbard won&#8217;t be too upset with Miscavige. After all Miscavige kept Scientology Churches running (more dead than alive, but still alive) which isn&#8217;t an easy task at all. Especially considering that Hubbard didn&#8217;t finish the Bridge himself.</p>
<p>The majority of BTs are aspects of yourself, by the way, they need to be re-integrated, not chased out. Hubbard&#8217;s main error (AKA why Scientology doesn&#8217;t work) was that he wanted to chase out anything and everything: BTs, SPs, engrams, implanters, implants, GPMs, time track. He never wanted to re-integrate/embrace mental phenomena, he only wanted to get rid of them.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t get me started.</p>
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		By: Ellen Dunsmore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great episode...The revelation was made by Tom that most long-time members of the CO$ only put-up with David Miscavige and don&#039;t revolt against him because they are &quot;waiting for Hubbard to return&quot;...Honestly (and sadly) this is the best explanation I&#039;ve ever heard for why Miscavige hasn&#039;t been overturned and thrown out on his ass. However, what doesn&#039;t make any sense at all is why, if all these long-time members of the CO$ are so dedicated to LRH and are only putting up with Miscavige and his insanity and abuse because they are patiently waiting for LRH&#039;s return to earth, do they go along with Miscavige constantly bastardizing all of Hubbard&#039;s policies, rules, regulations, etc.? You&#039;d think that whenever Miscavige changes one of Hubbard&#039;s policies, or redefines something so fundamental to the CO$ and Dianetics as the definition of a &quot;Floating Needle&quot; as Miscavige so arrogantly &quot;corrected&quot; (saying that Hubbard was wrong even though he was the creator of Dianetics and the one who did all of the &quot;research&quot;), that this would be so important and upsetting to true-believers that they wouldn&#039;t stand for it any longer. Scientology and Dianetics are simply never-ending, cyclical &quot;Catch 22&#039;s&quot;, with infinite loop-holes and little &quot;outs&quot; built-in to every single principle, policy, and fundamental &quot;scripture&quot; to explain everything to the benefit of LRH...and apparently to whomever has designated themselves as &quot;in-charge&quot;. It&#039;s a bottomless rabbit-hole that is infinitely frustrating to try to make sense of...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great episode&#8230;The revelation was made by Tom that most long-time members of the CO$ only put-up with David Miscavige and don&#8217;t revolt against him because they are &#8220;waiting for Hubbard to return&#8221;&#8230;Honestly (and sadly) this is the best explanation I&#8217;ve ever heard for why Miscavige hasn&#8217;t been overturned and thrown out on his ass. However, what doesn&#8217;t make any sense at all is why, if all these long-time members of the CO$ are so dedicated to LRH and are only putting up with Miscavige and his insanity and abuse because they are patiently waiting for LRH&#8217;s return to earth, do they go along with Miscavige constantly bastardizing all of Hubbard&#8217;s policies, rules, regulations, etc.? You&#8217;d think that whenever Miscavige changes one of Hubbard&#8217;s policies, or redefines something so fundamental to the CO$ and Dianetics as the definition of a &#8220;Floating Needle&#8221; as Miscavige so arrogantly &#8220;corrected&#8221; (saying that Hubbard was wrong even though he was the creator of Dianetics and the one who did all of the &#8220;research&#8221;), that this would be so important and upsetting to true-believers that they wouldn&#8217;t stand for it any longer. Scientology and Dianetics are simply never-ending, cyclical &#8220;Catch 22&#8217;s&#8221;, with infinite loop-holes and little &#8220;outs&#8221; built-in to every single principle, policy, and fundamental &#8220;scripture&#8221; to explain everything to the benefit of LRH&#8230;and apparently to whomever has designated themselves as &#8220;in-charge&#8221;. It&#8217;s a bottomless rabbit-hole that is infinitely frustrating to try to make sense of&#8230;</p>
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		By: Terri Gamboa		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-246396</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2018 06:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245732&quot;&gt;Ann Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re welcome Ann, I think you&#039;re the only one that read it though !  Or the only one that believed it maybe.  Nobody else seemed to comment.
People really don&#039;t get it.  You have to have been there to understand the mind set.  It&#039;s not of this world.  I wish I could convey that to people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245732">Ann Davis</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome Ann, I think you&#8217;re the only one that read it though !  Or the only one that believed it maybe.  Nobody else seemed to comment.<br />
People really don&#8217;t get it.  You have to have been there to understand the mind set.  It&#8217;s not of this world.  I wish I could convey that to people.</p>
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		By: nancykleck		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-246295</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245548&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mike, as a daughter of a narcissist (acknowledged by my own sister, a family therapist), I have watched the series from day one. I have studied narcissism for 20 years. When I became an adult, and did not &quot;serve her&quot;, I was demeaned, demoted in her eyes, and then discarded. No communication for years, off and on. I put up a mirror and wouldn&#039;t let her get away with such toxic and unloving behavior. She did it to my older brother too. Discard, kicked to the curb, disinherited. My sister grew up to be a narcissist too, so of course I am discarded too. No worries, I have a great life and great friends.

I think DM is a malignant narcissist. Have you and Leah consulted with psychologists about this disorder? He is classic, and the poor souls who join and give their life away are his minions that support his crippled self and fund the Ponzi scheme that supports his lifestyle and the &quot;church&quot;. I notice that you refrain from using words that would describe his behavior, but legally would incite trouble. The behavior speaks for itself obviously. Shelly, imho, is probably suffering badly from Stockholm Syndrome and has given away power of attorney to DM&#039;s attorneys. Her conversation with police was surely orchestrated and scripted. Keep up the good work, when the Ponzi scheme can&#039;t keep the $ coming in, the house of cards will fall. In your and Leah&#039;s lifetime, this will happen. Knowledge and enlightenment is power. Happy New Year to you and yours!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245548">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mike, as a daughter of a narcissist (acknowledged by my own sister, a family therapist), I have watched the series from day one. I have studied narcissism for 20 years. When I became an adult, and did not &#8220;serve her&#8221;, I was demeaned, demoted in her eyes, and then discarded. No communication for years, off and on. I put up a mirror and wouldn&#8217;t let her get away with such toxic and unloving behavior. She did it to my older brother too. Discard, kicked to the curb, disinherited. My sister grew up to be a narcissist too, so of course I am discarded too. No worries, I have a great life and great friends.</p>
<p>I think DM is a malignant narcissist. Have you and Leah consulted with psychologists about this disorder? He is classic, and the poor souls who join and give their life away are his minions that support his crippled self and fund the Ponzi scheme that supports his lifestyle and the &#8220;church&#8221;. I notice that you refrain from using words that would describe his behavior, but legally would incite trouble. The behavior speaks for itself obviously. Shelly, imho, is probably suffering badly from Stockholm Syndrome and has given away power of attorney to DM&#8217;s attorneys. Her conversation with police was surely orchestrated and scripted. Keep up the good work, when the Ponzi scheme can&#8217;t keep the $ coming in, the house of cards will fall. In your and Leah&#8217;s lifetime, this will happen. Knowledge and enlightenment is power. Happy New Year to you and yours!</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balletlady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245856&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Statute on child sex abuse is SEVEN years....until that changes &#038; it should....civil suits are the only way to go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245856">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Statute on child sex abuse is SEVEN years&#8230;.until that changes &amp; it should&#8230;.civil suits are the only way to go.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-246113&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris, NOT relevant to what I was talking about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-246113">Chris</a>.</p>
<p>Chris, NOT relevant to what I was talking about.</p>
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		By: Sue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 01:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245547&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Mike, I live in Clearwater and I can’t stand going downtown where they walk around like Ants at work. Robotic like. Won’t make eye contact either. Anything or info I can get by being here and going to a new cafe on Cleveland st where they go all day, let me know. Merry Christmas]]></description>
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<p>Hey Mike, I live in Clearwater and I can’t stand going downtown where they walk around like Ants at work. Robotic like. Won’t make eye contact either. Anything or info I can get by being here and going to a new cafe on Cleveland st where they go all day, let me know. Merry Christmas</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2018 00:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245856&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Well you have a point but it&#039;s another thing to get Churches or the ppl to goto the Police when a child speaks up or parents find out Rather then leave it to ? Church to handle and I&#039;m guessing not one or few were not guilty of hiding a predator &#038; Sct could be a breeding ground seeing children are removed from there parents so young geeze even with there parents it prob dose not take much to be a molester I&#039;d be a cold day before I&#039;d leave my kids w someone &#038; be okay w that that&#039;s just Me &#038; how I feel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-shelly-aftermath/#comment-245856">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Well you have a point but it&#8217;s another thing to get Churches or the ppl to goto the Police when a child speaks up or parents find out Rather then leave it to ? Church to handle and I&#8217;m guessing not one or few were not guilty of hiding a predator &amp; Sct could be a breeding ground seeing children are removed from there parents so young geeze even with there parents it prob dose not take much to be a molester I&#8217;d be a cold day before I&#8217;d leave my kids w someone &amp; be okay w that that&#8217;s just Me &amp; how I feel.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2018 00:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grew up in family abuse &#038; a JW were Bad for so many things being hit daily was so common I really can&#039;t think of really any fun times &#038; when asked a sibling they said because I didn&#039;t have any &#038; I got thrown out at 15 y/o &#038; into an abusive relationship for to long w no place to go till one day had ENOUGH left w ? fit in my car &#038; left I was really scared got stalked threatened the works but I held my ground and was free in a sense took awhile so I know what it&#039;s like &#038; feel awful for Shelly living in Fear not just from God or ? brainwashing she goes through but at least My prison&#039;s gates were in my mind Not metal ones like she&#039;s prob in &#038; for Shelly who can she goto,Trust there all like tattle Tale Children who prob wouldn&#039;t step up to help her if was being beaten &#038; she may have just given up being Free like the ppl who are so mentally wrecked if there Jail door was left open they wouldn&#039;t leave kinda crap I so get that &#038; like they DM wants her to get out &#038; goto the Media or Feds he prob would be knocked down a few more pegs but I wish TC &#038; other Fam ppl would leave &#038; why any Church can be Tax exempt w/o helping others is beyond reason pretty sure God wants us to help when we can when ? in need can use help so Let SHELLY GO &#038; IMO any religion should NOT be allowed to be fenced in w razor wire that&#039;s called a Jail.....smh]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grew up in family abuse &amp; a JW were Bad for so many things being hit daily was so common I really can&#8217;t think of really any fun times &amp; when asked a sibling they said because I didn&#8217;t have any &amp; I got thrown out at 15 y/o &amp; into an abusive relationship for to long w no place to go till one day had ENOUGH left w ? fit in my car &amp; left I was really scared got stalked threatened the works but I held my ground and was free in a sense took awhile so I know what it&#8217;s like &amp; feel awful for Shelly living in Fear not just from God or ? brainwashing she goes through but at least My prison&#8217;s gates were in my mind Not metal ones like she&#8217;s prob in &amp; for Shelly who can she goto,Trust there all like tattle Tale Children who prob wouldn&#8217;t step up to help her if was being beaten &amp; she may have just given up being Free like the ppl who are so mentally wrecked if there Jail door was left open they wouldn&#8217;t leave kinda crap I so get that &amp; like they DM wants her to get out &amp; goto the Media or Feds he prob would be knocked down a few more pegs but I wish TC &amp; other Fam ppl would leave &amp; why any Church can be Tax exempt w/o helping others is beyond reason pretty sure God wants us to help when we can when ? in need can use help so Let SHELLY GO &amp; IMO any religion should NOT be allowed to be fenced in w razor wire that&#8217;s called a Jail&#8230;..smh</p>
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