Thanks Mat for a great insider perspective. Very interesting.

Steve Marlowe seemingly got RPFed not long after the Mission Massacre. I met him on the RPF at Gold, where he was twinned with Jon Horwich (Diana Hubbard’s ex and father of Hubbard’s grand-daughter Roanne).

He had a strange series of postings at the CMO Gold area at the Int Base. At one point he was Ron’s Audio-Visual (in charge of Hubbard’s audio equipment and all sound operations at Gold). Dave Miscavige famously gave him a desk sign that said something like “Chief Butt-Kicker”. “Pompous Dick” describes him really well. But he was also constantly getting in trouble and getting busted.

He was among the first of those who were declared Suppressive but not allowed to leave. Normally when you are declared you are immediately shown the door, but sometime in the late 90s Dave started declaring people and then holding them at the Int Base while they supposedly were doing some kind of bogus program to get back in Dave’s good graces.

Really these were people that simply knew too much about Dave and could not be allowed to go on and have a normal life. They might spill the beans!

Rumor is that he eventually did escape and ended up somewhere in France with his good buddy David Manley (of tube amplifier fame). No idea how true that is.

I could tell you lots of stories about the time he got me billed $39,000 for his mistakes and how I wound up back on the RPF because of it but this comment is already too long.

Whew! I was concerned. Such a low lying area.

If they took a look, they would know that the thought that was in the back of their mind was true. They could save themselves from further grief by jumping into the internet and seeing for themselves.

Or they can go further down the ksw road and kick that can up the bridge into the future.

Eventually the public heat and disrepute will save a few more souls.

One major answer is your excellent detailed description of the Gerry Armstrong operation. There is much deeper reflection to be done on that operation, ordered by Miscavige, to have you play act as an internal dissenter (play act being a “Loyal Officer”) to draw Gerry in, so you could justifiably then ruin the Govt’s ongoing legal cases.

You truly explain things well, thankyou.

Your Kerry Gleason years you go through quickly, but it explained a lot to me there also.

You really write well.

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I relistened to Paulette Cooper’s and Tony’s interview of her, for her book.

IN real world history she truly was treated the most despicably. She was almost pushed to commit suicide, and the Guardian’s Office staff who did her operation are most of the worst of them not contrite.

The worst of Scientology goes back to Hubbard’s rules, and OSA truly needs to evaporate.

I have some serious questions, which the real world will be thinking.

a) If you could advise Scientology on curtailing their irreligious flaws, where would you start.

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To show you how “brainwashed” I still am, wonder if the real world should take Scientology seriously, Tony’s interview of Paulette near the end asks her some truly serious questions.

Her answers I do think her take longrange of Scientology are correct. She believes it will go on, and not collapse.

I wish you would review her interview with Tony, her serious answers near the end of the interview of will Scientology change.

She says no, very much like James Beverley graciously offered his expert opinion also.

The world is disgusted with Scientology. But with the Jim Jones cult, and other Bo Peep cult still going on, a cult like Scientology is going to go on even longer.

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When you did your Clay Demo of the LRH definition of PR, there is the line, which when I was a Course Supervisor, I ensured that all PR trainees DID put the point in clay, which is in the LRH definition, (it’s the one short page policy “Definition of PR”), the point to be included was that the PR man/woman was to advise the bosses of policy to be set if not existent. This tiny leeway was to be what you PR people were to advise.

Together with LRH’s other loopholes in particular, the loopholes of “arbitrary” which is a major loophole policy (of the Class 8 Course, LRH made a big deal of dealing with arbitraries, it’s a license NOT to be tripped up and any impasses that LRH poiicy itself causes). The arbitrary policy together with LRH’s “Hiring New Staff “answer to ED Int, Guillaume Leserve, stating that Guillaume had the authority to tweek things like the list of quals for hiring staff.

LRH gave the tiniest of allowances.

Anyways, you as a top PR man, and thankfully are open and revealing of the dark sides of modern Scientology, what today would you advise official Scientology to do policy wise?

Can they get rid of OSA, since the freezone Ron’s Orgs don’t seem to need an OSA, do they?

International Amnesty, and change the rules for NO further SP declaring, and just undo all SP declares.

Open their purse strings, pay upfront and in full, accurately, all their CVB claims?

Those three I’d think are starters.

Interesting re 40 year anniversary as we were a group about 10-15 people who left the Stockholm org in about october 1982 and never looked back. I don´t think anyone of us knew anything about that conference or how bad it really was in the US. We heard or experienced some about the Finance police, Price increases and Knowledge reports and pressure of different kinds etc and that was enough for us. It just wasn´t fun any longer!

One time on a scientology blog I got into a debate with someone about whether Hubbard always said scientology was a religion and everyone involved should regard it as such. After some back and forth debate I finally agreed that when I was active I believed that everyone should eventually study scientology or become a scientologist so in essence it was my “faith” which was enough of a compromise to settle the debate.

Back then maybe one scientologist in a hundred actually called scientology their religion. It was something we were doing. We don’t need no stinkin’ religion – haha

No, that is Ft Myers beach. Clearwater had no damage