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		By: Ekård		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-357240</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2020 00:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too true. The sad thing is that it&#039;s easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled. It&#039;s quite frustrating and seemingly hopeless for a lot of people. You can shove proof into their faces and they will accuse said evidence as some kind of &quot;fabrication&quot;. Indoctrination in many cults and political regimes is deeply ingrained into the populace that they can&#039;t even begin to fathom how wrong (hell, even evil) the entity they worship actually is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true. The sad thing is that it&#8217;s easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled. It&#8217;s quite frustrating and seemingly hopeless for a lot of people. You can shove proof into their faces and they will accuse said evidence as some kind of &#8220;fabrication&#8221;. Indoctrination in many cults and political regimes is deeply ingrained into the populace that they can&#8217;t even begin to fathom how wrong (hell, even evil) the entity they worship actually is.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2020 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356382&quot;&gt;chukicita&lt;/a&gt;.

OK, happy to hear that. Though I wonder if they have offered to pay for the use they did make! (That&#039;s a rhetorical question, of course they didn&#039;t)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356382">chukicita</a>.</p>
<p>OK, happy to hear that. Though I wonder if they have offered to pay for the use they did make! (That&#8217;s a rhetorical question, of course they didn&#8217;t)</p>
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		By: chukicita		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356166&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Evidently she has received a reply saying they wouldn&#039;t do it anymore. :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356166">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Evidently she has received a reply saying they wouldn&#8217;t do it anymore. 😀</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356149&quot;&gt;Barbara Chichester&lt;/a&gt;.

Barbara,
Your work is beautiful and I’m so sorry that the “church” of scientology would so blatantly use your artwork without permission and license. 

I’m very thankful Mike Rinder posts these promos of theirs here so that they are exposed for how often they “borrow” and misuse the works of other artists without knowledge or credit. I hope very much that you are able to collect appropriate usage fees and get an apology. I know I’d be angry if someone used my creation to promote something I didn’t approve. 

But do know that we think your work is beautiful!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356149">Barbara Chichester</a>.</p>
<p>Barbara,<br />
Your work is beautiful and I’m so sorry that the “church” of scientology would so blatantly use your artwork without permission and license. </p>
<p>I’m very thankful Mike Rinder posts these promos of theirs here so that they are exposed for how often they “borrow” and misuse the works of other artists without knowledge or credit. I hope very much that you are able to collect appropriate usage fees and get an apology. I know I’d be angry if someone used my creation to promote something I didn’t approve. </p>
<p>But do know that we think your work is beautiful!</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356179&quot;&gt;Shirley Hubbert&lt;/a&gt;.

Shirley -
That’s where we lived until a few years back (we’re an hour away and still have a son in OC) and I would say that was our experience too up until we did encounter it. OC has their IDEAL Org right near the Orange County High School of the Arts (OSHA) and I encountered it when I started helping a friend’s daughter get home from school there. Then my husband ended up working for a scientology-owned business and WOW did they push us hard to try to get us (&#038; all other employees) in there. That’s what brought me here and to Tony’s blog. Just one of the craziest and hardest years we’d had, as they so insinuated their way into our personal life. 
The hardest one though was my “bonus son” who’d been part of our loves since our boys and he were early elementary school. He joined via a girlfriend from a very prominent family and disconnected from us about 2yrs later. I’d shown him this blog and Tony’s when he first started to date her and he laughed when I suggested if he joined that he’d have to disconnect from me because I was publicly and vocally against co$. Yet, eyes wide open he got involved, took out a loan for services and was suddenly a different person. 

Sadly I think that’s the case in many places - it’s not known or really “out there” for most of us, but when you do meet someone or end up working with or for someone who’s “in” it becomes very obvious how insidious it is and how even very intelligent, aware and kind people can get sucked in before they know it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356179">Shirley Hubbert</a>.</p>
<p>Shirley &#8211;<br />
That’s where we lived until a few years back (we’re an hour away and still have a son in OC) and I would say that was our experience too up until we did encounter it. OC has their IDEAL Org right near the Orange County High School of the Arts (OSHA) and I encountered it when I started helping a friend’s daughter get home from school there. Then my husband ended up working for a scientology-owned business and WOW did they push us hard to try to get us (&amp; all other employees) in there. That’s what brought me here and to Tony’s blog. Just one of the craziest and hardest years we’d had, as they so insinuated their way into our personal life.<br />
The hardest one though was my “bonus son” who’d been part of our loves since our boys and he were early elementary school. He joined via a girlfriend from a very prominent family and disconnected from us about 2yrs later. I’d shown him this blog and Tony’s when he first started to date her and he laughed when I suggested if he joined that he’d have to disconnect from me because I was publicly and vocally against co$. Yet, eyes wide open he got involved, took out a loan for services and was suddenly a different person. </p>
<p>Sadly I think that’s the case in many places &#8211; it’s not known or really “out there” for most of us, but when you do meet someone or end up working with or for someone who’s “in” it becomes very obvious how insidious it is and how even very intelligent, aware and kind people can get sucked in before they know it.</p>
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		By: Golden Era Parachute		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356175&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

I can tell you there are ex-Scientologist New Mexicans. In fact, I have driven by the empty lot of the Albuquerque Org. Two cars, probably staff members. It is not a lively and vibrant Org, but yet another m&#039;Org.
New Mexican Scientologists: if you need help please reach out to the Aftermath Foundation. It&#039;s a rough state with low income and high crime and poverty. You can get help and end the abuses of the cult by leaving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356175">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>I can tell you there are ex-Scientologist New Mexicans. In fact, I have driven by the empty lot of the Albuquerque Org. Two cars, probably staff members. It is not a lively and vibrant Org, but yet another m&#8217;Org.<br />
New Mexican Scientologists: if you need help please reach out to the Aftermath Foundation. It&#8217;s a rough state with low income and high crime and poverty. You can get help and end the abuses of the cult by leaving.</p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356245</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 16:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356144&quot;&gt;Newcomer&lt;/a&gt;.

LoL Newcomer that was hilarious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356144">Newcomer</a>.</p>
<p>LoL Newcomer that was hilarious.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 07:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If we objectively look at history, we find those that those who commit evil acts think of themselves as good people committing good acts.  If we don&#039;t examine our own beliefs we &lt;b&gt;WILL&lt;/b&gt; be those people committing crimes against Humanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we objectively look at history, we find those that those who commit evil acts think of themselves as good people committing good acts.  If we don&#8217;t examine our own beliefs we <b>WILL</b> be those people committing crimes against Humanity.</p>
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		By: Mary Arr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Arr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 05:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356138&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

I bet it really irks those that paid full price for their status. It must be torture not being allowed to complain (aka natter) about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-albuquerque/#comment-356138">ISNOINews</a>.</p>
<p>I bet it really irks those that paid full price for their status. It must be torture not being allowed to complain (aka natter) about it.</p>
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		By: Shirley Hubbert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shirley Hubbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 04:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off topic comment...but still relevant...
I live in Buena park Calif...a fairly large city in Orang Co..
I have NEVER seen any indication. Scientolgy exists here..
No signs.  No billboards...etc
Interesting...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic comment&#8230;but still relevant&#8230;<br />
I live in Buena park Calif&#8230;a fairly large city in Orang Co..<br />
I have NEVER seen any indication. Scientolgy exists here..<br />
No signs.  No billboards&#8230;etc<br />
Interesting&#8230;</p>
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