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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212673&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I know! Crazy stuff.]]></description>
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<p>I know! Crazy stuff.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212935&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Nobody misinterpreted you.

You knew exactly what you were doing.

Clearly your rather &quot;innocuous opinion&quot; was neither innocuous nor appropriate. 

But what you do continue to do with unwavering accuracy is represent the worst of the know-it-all scientology mindset. It&#039;s quite a sight to behold and I am glad you keep returning as a reminder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212935">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Nobody misinterpreted you.</p>
<p>You knew exactly what you were doing.</p>
<p>Clearly your rather &#8220;innocuous opinion&#8221; was neither innocuous nor appropriate. </p>
<p>But what you do continue to do with unwavering accuracy is represent the worst of the know-it-all scientology mindset. It&#8217;s quite a sight to behold and I am glad you keep returning as a reminder.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212829&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Again, you and others have misintrepreted my comments. Admittedly the phrase &quot;doesn&#039;t give a hoot&quot; could be taken as if I am playing down or belittling the subject but that is not what was meant. What I meant was that say if there are 500 readers here, then 400 of them are not concerned either way on the issue, 100 are concerned and 30 or 40 of them are vehemently opposed and/or directly affected by it. The percentages may be more of course, but I don&#039;t think even you can say that every person reading here cares one way or the other about disconnection. If you want to argue about percentages then fine, I concede.

But as I stated above, this issue can be better handled and as I am not affected by that I am not really in a position to give first hand comment about it. Which is why I only and at least suggested a compromise. Perhaps Dave might redress the Disconnection HCOB?  Unlikely as we know, but also would my suggestion work with people who are rabidly anti-Scientology - that also is not going to work is it? A staff member won&#039;t be saying: &quot;I met Grandma yesterday for coffee and cake when she was having a break from standing outside my Org with banners saying nasty things about Scientology and spitting at the staff as we walked in!&quot;

I really didn&#039;t want to be drawn into this discussion and gave my rather innocuous opinion on it plus a suggestion to solve it (whether impractical or not) for which I am now being compared to a holocaust denier and Nazi which is very adroit positioning on your part Mike. Next up will it be &quot;Foolproof executing ex-Scientologists ISIS-style&quot;. So readers please disabuse yourselves of Mike&#039;s subtle positioning of me as black-uniformed RTC person with SS and swastika badges.

And I am not sure that there are that many who &quot;revile&quot; me. Some or even many commenters do, granted. But only because I sometimes spoil their little glee fests. But then you want me here as some sort of example of the &quot;opposition&quot; or as some sort of focal point for vituperation or whatever, but then please do not misintrepret my remarks. But I &quot;don&#039;t give a hoot&quot; about that.

As for the dude below using the F Word, well, he (or she) can carry on misintrepreting my remarks until the end of the fucking universe for all I care.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212829">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Again, you and others have misintrepreted my comments. Admittedly the phrase &#8220;doesn&#8217;t give a hoot&#8221; could be taken as if I am playing down or belittling the subject but that is not what was meant. What I meant was that say if there are 500 readers here, then 400 of them are not concerned either way on the issue, 100 are concerned and 30 or 40 of them are vehemently opposed and/or directly affected by it. The percentages may be more of course, but I don&#8217;t think even you can say that every person reading here cares one way or the other about disconnection. If you want to argue about percentages then fine, I concede.</p>
<p>But as I stated above, this issue can be better handled and as I am not affected by that I am not really in a position to give first hand comment about it. Which is why I only and at least suggested a compromise. Perhaps Dave might redress the Disconnection HCOB?  Unlikely as we know, but also would my suggestion work with people who are rabidly anti-Scientology &#8211; that also is not going to work is it? A staff member won&#8217;t be saying: &#8220;I met Grandma yesterday for coffee and cake when she was having a break from standing outside my Org with banners saying nasty things about Scientology and spitting at the staff as we walked in!&#8221;</p>
<p>I really didn&#8217;t want to be drawn into this discussion and gave my rather innocuous opinion on it plus a suggestion to solve it (whether impractical or not) for which I am now being compared to a holocaust denier and Nazi which is very adroit positioning on your part Mike. Next up will it be &#8220;Foolproof executing ex-Scientologists ISIS-style&#8221;. So readers please disabuse yourselves of Mike&#8217;s subtle positioning of me as black-uniformed RTC person with SS and swastika badges.</p>
<p>And I am not sure that there are that many who &#8220;revile&#8221; me. Some or even many commenters do, granted. But only because I sometimes spoil their little glee fests. But then you want me here as some sort of example of the &#8220;opposition&#8221; or as some sort of focal point for vituperation or whatever, but then please do not misintrepret my remarks. But I &#8220;don&#8217;t give a hoot&#8221; about that.</p>
<p>As for the dude below using the F Word, well, he (or she) can carry on misintrepreting my remarks until the end of the fucking universe for all I care.</p>
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		By: ctempster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212775&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your very good comment on the agony those of us who have been disconnected from are experiencing at the hand of the &quot;church,&quot; Aquamarine.  You said it so well.  And thank you to Mike for putting this blog there every day and for all he does to bring down the house of cards so that one day maybe we&#039;ll see our loved ones again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212775">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your very good comment on the agony those of us who have been disconnected from are experiencing at the hand of the &#8220;church,&#8221; Aquamarine.  You said it so well.  And thank you to Mike for putting this blog there every day and for all he does to bring down the house of cards so that one day maybe we&#8217;ll see our loved ones again.</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 19:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212827&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Aqua, most commenting, or reading here anyway, don’t really give a hoot about Disconnection nor does it affect the vast majority here. Disconnection is for many the simple, current and obvious Achilles Heel of Scientology but if that didn’t exist then they would find another reason in their haste to attack Scientology.&quot;


FUCK YOU.

Fuck you - you fucking FUCK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212827">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Aqua, most commenting, or reading here anyway, don’t really give a hoot about Disconnection nor does it affect the vast majority here. Disconnection is for many the simple, current and obvious Achilles Heel of Scientology but if that didn’t exist then they would find another reason in their haste to attack Scientology.&#8221;</p>
<p>FUCK YOU.</p>
<p>Fuck you &#8211; you fucking FUCK.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212844&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

And for Foolproof, here is an essay I wrote on what is happening in auditing BTs and other imaginings. I hope it helps. 

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/]]></description>
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<p>And for Foolproof, here is an essay I wrote on what is happening in auditing BTs and other imaginings. I hope it helps. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/" rel="ugc">http://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-ot-levels/</a></p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212844&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Sure Richard, repost as you see fit. Thanks for asking. I hope it helps others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212844">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Sure Richard, repost as you see fit. Thanks for asking. I hope it helps others.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212847&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;Mike, surely you are not making me wrong and you and others right? Surely not eh?&lt;/em&gt;

YEs, I most certainly am.

This is YOUR standard. I don&#039;t give a damn about this, but you surely do. And that&#039;s why I was pointing it out to you.

As for my version of Solo NOTs -- it&#039;s much better than your version. Why? It&#039;s much shorter and cheaper and gets you to the same EP in minutes that you have never been able to reach. But more importantly, and unarguably, it&#039;s because what is true for me is what is true. That&#039;s what KSW Dave said on TV last night. And he was quoting L. Ron Hubbard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212847">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p><em>Mike, surely you are not making me wrong and you and others right? Surely not eh?</em></p>
<p>YEs, I most certainly am.</p>
<p>This is YOUR standard. I don&#8217;t give a damn about this, but you surely do. And that&#8217;s why I was pointing it out to you.</p>
<p>As for my version of Solo NOTs &#8212; it&#8217;s much better than your version. Why? It&#8217;s much shorter and cheaper and gets you to the same EP in minutes that you have never been able to reach. But more importantly, and unarguably, it&#8217;s because what is true for me is what is true. That&#8217;s what KSW Dave said on TV last night. And he was quoting L. Ron Hubbard.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212844&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

True believers will insist you didn&#039;t do it right. The general public probably passes the whole thing off as science fiction. However, I think people still in, under the radar or on the fence would appreciate your more specific description.]]></description>
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<p>True believers will insist you didn&#8217;t do it right. The general public probably passes the whole thing off as science fiction. However, I think people still in, under the radar or on the fence would appreciate your more specific description.</p>
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		By: Newcomer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Newcomer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/why-people-stick-around-as-long-as-they-do/#comment-212827&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; Aqua, most commenting, or reading here anyway, don’t really give a hoot about Disconnection nor does it affect the vast majority here.&quot;

Geeze McFly,  you certainly woke up on the clueless side of the bed today. You need to get more drilling on perceptics good buddy. May I suggest signing up for a couple hundred intensives of the super duper thingy Dave has going down in Muddywater. And after you have lit up that pole on the fifth floor, come on back for round too!]]></description>
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<p>&#8221; Aqua, most commenting, or reading here anyway, don’t really give a hoot about Disconnection nor does it affect the vast majority here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Geeze McFly,  you certainly woke up on the clueless side of the bed today. You need to get more drilling on perceptics good buddy. May I suggest signing up for a couple hundred intensives of the super duper thingy Dave has going down in Muddywater. And after you have lit up that pole on the fifth floor, come on back for round too!</p>
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