Peacemaker, I was in the SO. I was in unknown locations. If anyone had tried to throw me in a chain locker I would have beat their brains out with the nearest blunt object (even if it had been Tubby). Or, simply with fists, knees, etc. I had family in. That’s the reason for the question. It makes no sense that people willingly allow themselves to be abused like that. It’s almost Darwin Award candidate realm of behavior. Anyone here that would have submitted?

Hello Diane.

Are you referring to Mike & Leah’s weekly “Fair Game” podcast? Or are you referring to the Youtube video shown above titled, “Scamology Must Go”!

I found there was a world of difference between the two.

I’m guessing the podcast you liked was the weekly “Fair Game” podcast hosted by Mike & Leah whereas most of the people who are complaining about a video are referring to the video hosted by two fellows named David and Derek and they had Mike Rinder on as a guest. I think that is the video that people have been unhappy with.

What message are these people trying to portray with this smiling lady? Most of the people who are in this cult that I’ve seen do not look like they get to see a dentist on a regular basis. Their teeth may not look diseased. But they sure don’t seem to sparkle and appear to be blindingly light. Hubbard’s teeth never looked like that.

I just wonder what kind of a message are they hoping to send to people reading this ad. I know they tell the reader to click on some link. Most people who are knowledgeable in computer security make it pretty clear that one should never click on any link posted by someone they do not know or do not trust – especially if the people posting that link have a reputation for being less than 100% trustworthy. I would never click on any link these people tell me to visit. NEVER! EVER! EVER!

As I understand it, people can mess you up real badly if you click on some link they provide. I think it’s very similar to running an “.EXE” file that someone tells you to click on. That is a terrible mistake. That “.EXE” file can do almost anything to your PC. It can erase or corrupt all your files. It can make a copy of all your files and send them to someone you would never want to see your files.

I would suggest that anytime a cult runs an ad and tells you to click on a link or run an “.EXE” file, you should make it real well known to everyone you can that is a very bad idea and they should never ever click on those things offered by a criminal cult. Nothing good is likely to result. At least that is my opinion.

P.S. I am very sorry but I just couldn’t resist the temptation to make a bad joke from Conan O’Brian’s initials – COB – and see if people would realize that the TWERP likes to be referred to as COB – but it has nothing to do with Conan. It was a very weak joke but I couldn’t resist the opportunity to try and inject some humor into this discussion because it was getting very serious.

And, the ‘normal’ always asked questions were asked in a slightly different way resulting in a slightly different focus to the answer.

Overall, I thought it was cool

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$camalotofcashology has worked with hundreds and hundreds of such companies and businesses over the years and one day they might even get good enough to work with a real company with real people.

Yes, use the Hubbard College of Administration International today. Where we smile even as we bleed your bank accounts dry and try to turn you into a $camalotofcashology Sheepbot and then take every cent we can get from you that we missed before. No extra eight credit cards is too hard to get and what’s a few mortgages on your house when your future and your very soul is at stake.

Thanks!

Real, the two main things I see are that nowadays RPFers are apt to be in more remote or heavily guarded situations, and more likely to have family ties that leave them afraid of blowing. Hubbard threw people in chain lockers and then even prevented them from leaving the ships, going so far as to track them down if they did get off and if necessary lie to the authorities to get them brought back, so I don’t see how what’s going on now is that much different from old practices, except that there was a time between the end of the project at sea and the circling of int base with barbed wire and motion detectors when it was somewhat easier for someone determined to escape.

Hopefully Mat answers, but I thought I’d offer my observer perspective.

First, the Church of Scientology does NOT admit that it discriminates against gay people. The tweet I quoted in the OP literally says: “We don’t discriminate for reasons of sex” (meaning sexual orientation). It then goes on to tacitly assert that their refusal to conduct gay weddings is not a meaningful or significant form of discrimination. I am simply pointing out that that is incorrect, and why.

Second, the tweet I quoted in the OP was made on 1/14/19. The Church of Scientology made just that one tweet, and (as far as I can tell) just that one statement anywhere on the web, where they deigned to disclose the truth that gay weddings are prohibited in Scientology.

In the two years since the 2019 tweet, the Church of Scientology’s repeated and standard response to questions about the status of gay people in the church has been:

https://twitter.com/Scientology/status/1085380137669976064

Question:

“@Scientology so, I am gay. Am I welcome in your organization?”

Response by the Church of Scientology:

“Yes. Sexual orientation is not a criteria for membership in the Church.  The first statement in the Creed of the Church of Scientology is that “All men of whatever race, color or creed were created with equal rights.”

When a gay person asks whether they will be welcome and the Church of Scientology’s response is to say that “Sexual orientation is not a criteria for membership in the Church” and to talk about “equal rights,” the clear and intended implication is that gay people will be treated equally — i.e., without discrimination.  The reference to “equal rights” in response to such a question is deliberately misleading. I resurrected the 2019 tweet to document one instance where the implication of equal, non-discriminatory treatment is demonstrably false.

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