Comments on: Words of Wisdom on Education

By: Jere Lull

Jere Lull — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 19:30:49 +0000

Len Zinberg observed:”Scientology is much, much closer to a form of brainwashing.”

It’s so close as to be indistinguishable, IMO. He also made it a form of punishment.

IIRC, when some
(Messengers, I think) onboard Apollo committed an error, they were ordered to do some outrageous number of hours of Objectives, both as “PC” and “auditor”.
I couldn’t see any redeeming value in the first Objectives I encountered; Book and Bottle as I recall. My only “win” was getting DONE with them. Interesting hallucinations along the way, though.

By: Jere Lull

Jere Lull — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 19:21:18 +0000

In reply to Cayden. It's just like any other dogma, Golden Era, you pick and choose the parts that you like or that you have to know *right now*. Everything else can blow away in the wind, for all you care.

By: Jere

Jere — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 19:17:15 +0000

I was introduced to scn while in a rigorous engineering curriculum, nothing as pantywaist as what Hubbard experienced at GWU (which STILL isn’t a well-regarded engineering school 70 years later).Ours was not a party school, but I was less stressed taking 15 credit-hours of math & science than the “pro” TRs course for 6-8 hours in a row. WHO does that much time without a break in ONE subject?? Only scientology, led by a sadist who had it in for we who could easily master subjects he couldn’t be bothered to study.

By: Wow

Wow — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:51:26 +0000

In reply to Mockingbird. Wow! I have to print it, to get the full concept.

By: Scale of lies

Scale of lies — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:43:43 +0000

In reply to Golden Era Parachute. Really a good Idea!

By: Scale of lies

Scale of lies — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:37:41 +0000

In reply to Golden Era Parachute.

Scale of Lies.
Really an important contribution to understand people like Hubbard, Stalin, Trump or similar people, With the Charakter of the black triangle of Narcissm, Machiavellism and Psychopathx.

Sure, Hubbard and Miscavige use this scale in every speech and writing.

By: Golden Era Parachute

Golden Era Parachute — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:24:37 +0000

In reply to Cayden. It is Law 27 in the book The 48 Laws of Power that tells how to get control over others by creating a cult. I am sure that chapter used LRon as the research subject.

By: Golden Era Parachute

Golden Era Parachute — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:17:45 +0000

L Ron never gave his secret grade scale of lies. The lies begin at Tone 40, pleasant little lies, to get you into the door.

Remember, this is the religion thought up by the guy who believes your reality, the other guys reality, and the consensus reality are all separate. He is also the guy that tells how to shatter other’s Stable Datum in order to confuse them. So get the person uptone with some pleasant lies, shatter his/her stable datum, then send in the registrar to get the poor sap to sign over thousands of dollars of credit to the Church of Scientology. Keep bleeding the rock dry until they wise up, become an ex-member, then have perpetual spying against them for life – all because of a pleasant ‘little’ lie while mocking up fake realities.

By: Glenn

Glenn — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 15:56:27 +0000

In reply to Skyler.

Hey Skyler,

Thanks much for the congratulations. Truly deserved in my humble opinion.

Yes, they can/will come to your house. I’ve had many such visits when I lived in Florida. My best tactic was to simply not answer the door. But believe me, even if you move they will find you and come a knocking. Well, except in Russia. Never found me there.

Glenn

By: Skyler

Skyler — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 15:11:26 +0000

In reply to Andy S. Thank you Andy. It would be so nice to publish a list of all these contradictions. I'm sure that I used to know about a dozen or so. It was so funny to see how phony they all were. But they passed for such incredible wisdom. Much like Tubby had convinced his dupes. But that wasn't really funny.