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		By: Chip Gallo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip Gallo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2023 18:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Danny M. has a success story about LOC here:

https://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part05/Chp19/pg0318.html

KTL/LOC helped me find the exit so there is that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny M. has a success story about LOC here:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part05/Chp19/pg0318.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part05/Chp19/pg0318.html</a></p>
<p>KTL/LOC helped me find the exit so there is that.</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2022 12:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-492974&quot;&gt;chuck beatty xSO 75 to 03&lt;/a&gt;.

The whole subject--the &quot;quackery pseudo-therapy or exorcism&quot;--is undeserving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-492974">chuck beatty xSO 75 to 03</a>.</p>
<p>The whole subject&#8211;the &#8220;quackery pseudo-therapy or exorcism&#8221;&#8211;is undeserving.</p>
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		By: chuck beatty xSO 75 to 03		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuck beatty xSO 75 to 03]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2022 23:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-492951&quot;&gt;Fred Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

The subject I no longer consider deserving anyone&#039;s time nor money, no paying any &quot;debts&quot; to it for one&#039;s staff courses and the quackery pseudo-therapy or exorcism they gave you for &quot;free.&quot;   

So when I was toying with the debt, I wanted to see how low I could finnagle it, but I really didn&#039;t want to stay in LA, go on course at ASHO even though per rights, I &quot;ought&quot; to have, since i was playing along like that was my intention.   

But the whole subject is undeserving of anyone playing along with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-492951">Fred Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>The subject I no longer consider deserving anyone&#8217;s time nor money, no paying any &#8220;debts&#8221; to it for one&#8217;s staff courses and the quackery pseudo-therapy or exorcism they gave you for &#8220;free.&#8221;   </p>
<p>So when I was toying with the debt, I wanted to see how low I could finnagle it, but I really didn&#8217;t want to stay in LA, go on course at ASHO even though per rights, I &#8220;ought&#8221; to have, since i was playing along like that was my intention.   </p>
<p>But the whole subject is undeserving of anyone playing along with it.</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2022 19:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-492218&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Re: &quot;...reduced my freeloader debt from 100Gs range down to 500 bucks...&quot;

That is a considerable reduction in debt, Chuck!

When the powers that be calculated my freeloader debt, they applied a particular policy letter to it (for every year served, you could knock off a certain percentage, or something like that).

If I remember correctly, Miscavige cancelled that policy short after that.

And you never did pay your F/L debt. Now that is what I&#039;d call a &quot; discount&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-492218">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;&#8230;reduced my freeloader debt from 100Gs range down to 500 bucks&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a considerable reduction in debt, Chuck!</p>
<p>When the powers that be calculated my freeloader debt, they applied a particular policy letter to it (for every year served, you could knock off a certain percentage, or something like that).</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, Miscavige cancelled that policy short after that.</p>
<p>And you never did pay your F/L debt. Now that is what I&#8217;d call a &#8221; discount&#8221;!</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2022 21:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-489932&quot;&gt;Fred Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Great story Fred,

ASHO Staff did have a lot of heart.   When I routed out, became a freeloader, the then Treasury Sec ASHO Fdn was an Englishman named Stephen Hocke, who I&#039;d trained on his OEC ten years prior.   Stephan very nicely reduced my freeloader debt from 100Gs range down to 500 bucks, in much the same way your Mary did, by just not taking into consideration all the other crap billed to me.

But I didn&#039;t want to go back, so never paid even the 500 bucks reduced F/L bill.

But ASHO staff were just so abused, they were so stuck in the middle of things there at the Pacifica Bridge hierarchy, they were a special nice bunch of suffering diehards.]]></description>
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<p>Great story Fred,</p>
<p>ASHO Staff did have a lot of heart.   When I routed out, became a freeloader, the then Treasury Sec ASHO Fdn was an Englishman named Stephen Hocke, who I&#8217;d trained on his OEC ten years prior.   Stephan very nicely reduced my freeloader debt from 100Gs range down to 500 bucks, in much the same way your Mary did, by just not taking into consideration all the other crap billed to me.</p>
<p>But I didn&#8217;t want to go back, so never paid even the 500 bucks reduced F/L bill.</p>
<p>But ASHO staff were just so abused, they were so stuck in the middle of things there at the Pacifica Bridge hierarchy, they were a special nice bunch of suffering diehards.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2022 21:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-489876&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

You got it!

Keeping Scientology Working

really means:

&quot;Keep Blaming Staff And Public, To Keep the Scam Working&quot;. 

aka

&quot;Keeping Quackery &quot;Working&quot; By Always Blaming Staff and Public&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-489876">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>You got it!</p>
<p>Keeping Scientology Working</p>
<p>really means:</p>
<p>&#8220;Keep Blaming Staff And Public, To Keep the Scam Working&#8221;. </p>
<p>aka</p>
<p>&#8220;Keeping Quackery &#8220;Working&#8221; By Always Blaming Staff and Public&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dave Fagen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2022 20:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-492175&quot;&gt;Lily R&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow! Nice! Thank you, Lily.]]></description>
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<p>Wow! Nice! Thank you, Lily.</p>
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		By: Samuel T. Alter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-489766&quot;&gt;The Man&lt;/a&gt;.

If you cut their hands off, they can&#039;t sign anything. It&#039;s a close call. To avoid the S.O. or to live without hands. A tough choice to be sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-489766">The Man</a>.</p>
<p>If you cut their hands off, they can&#8217;t sign anything. It&#8217;s a close call. To avoid the S.O. or to live without hands. A tough choice to be sure.</p>
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		By: Lily R		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-489996&quot;&gt;Dave Fagen&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Dave,
We haven&#039;t met. But I felt as if your hand was in mine while I read your story. You were leading me gently through your story and the thicket of confusion that was my mind. I was leaving Scientology, but I still believed the Hubbard BS. 
I still felt knee-jerk guilt at &quot;letting the group down.&quot; My Scientology friends were my friends. I loved them.
You were like my new friend, showing me what was wrong in the small ways as well as the large ways. You helped me see my experience with your eyes as you showed me your experience.
Whenever I&#039;ve seen a comment written by you, I smile.
So, no we haven&#039;t met, but I call you friend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-489996">Dave Fagen</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Dave,<br />
We haven&#8217;t met. But I felt as if your hand was in mine while I read your story. You were leading me gently through your story and the thicket of confusion that was my mind. I was leaving Scientology, but I still believed the Hubbard BS.<br />
I still felt knee-jerk guilt at &#8220;letting the group down.&#8221; My Scientology friends were my friends. I loved them.<br />
You were like my new friend, showing me what was wrong in the small ways as well as the large ways. You helped me see my experience with your eyes as you showed me your experience.<br />
Whenever I&#8217;ve seen a comment written by you, I smile.<br />
So, no we haven&#8217;t met, but I call you friend.</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2022 19:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-490069&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Chuck,

Hail Xenu!

Guinness World Records claims: &quot;The most published works by one author is L. Ron Hubbard...&quot;

Scientology built a book empire with Bridge Publications and Galaxy Press. You, too, can have your own book empire if you&#039;re able to launch a group of people completely devoted to you (that is, the Sea Org, whose birthday is August 12, founded 1966). &quot;Published works&quot; does not necessarily mean that what Hubbard wrote is coherent or even good.

“Quackery&quot; is a most apt description of Scientology.

Your observation and evaluation is appreciated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/world-out-of-comm-key-to-life/#comment-490069">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>Hail Xenu!</p>
<p>Guinness World Records claims: &#8220;The most published works by one author is L. Ron Hubbard&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Scientology built a book empire with Bridge Publications and Galaxy Press. You, too, can have your own book empire if you&#8217;re able to launch a group of people completely devoted to you (that is, the Sea Org, whose birthday is August 12, founded 1966). &#8220;Published works&#8221; does not necessarily mean that what Hubbard wrote is coherent or even good.</p>
<p>“Quackery&#8221; is a most apt description of Scientology.</p>
<p>Your observation and evaluation is appreciated.</p>
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