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An “Ideal” and “St Hill Size” Org Struts Its Stuff

June 19, 2019 By Mike Rinder 69 Comments

Presented personally by Mr. David Miscavige with both “Ideal Org'” AND “St Hill Size” status, Joburg org epitomizes the pinnacle of scientology organizations on earth (not counting the artificially inflated Tampa Org that is home to the many Flag rejects and people trying to avoid Flag registrars).

And here we see what they are so proud of:  2 Clears in one week and one person “flying through his training” — apparently they didn’t have a single course completion to announce in the same week as the 2 Clears.

This is the best. of the best. And compared to other scientology orgs, it is.  Most orgs don’t make 2 Clears in a year.

But even at this worldbeating rate they are not going to Clear Joburg EVER. Let alone all of the African Continent (which they are also responsible for).

The new “St Hill Size” “ideal” Advanced Org Africa is only going to be able to get customers from other parts of the world as even if Joburg actually did 2 every week (they don’t…) it would support a massive Advance Org. The only thing the new AO can do is try to steal the dwindling number of Clears in other parts of the world by offering discounts due to exchange rates on the Rand. Or they will begin cannibalizing the local orgs, delivering bottom of the bridge services.

Miscavige had a moment of glory that allowed him to shoot a video to show at a ribbon yanking event and try to pretend this proves scientology is expanding.  Of course it’s a facade. He cannot do anything to get scientology out of the long slump into oblivion it has descended into — so he buys buildings, holds ribbon yanking ceremonies in front of the clubbed seals who clap and cheer him and tells the bubble dwellers how great they are doing.

It’s a bizarre charade that only those inside the bubble buy into. They are so out of touch with reality that they repeatedly put out these sort of promotional items to prove it.

Scientology would be completely irrelevant to the world at this point if it didn’t have 3 billion dollars to implement its toxic policies to destroy enemies, break up families, abuse the elderly, bankrupt donors and cover up abuses.

 

 

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Filed Under: Ideal Orgs Tagged With: AO Africa, David Miscavige, events, Joburg org, Scientology Idle Orgs, St Hill Size

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  1. Elyssa McGregor says

    June 27, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    Hi Mike,
    Nice article! We are in the promotional advertising industry and couldn’t help but notice you mentioned “promotional items” in your article. Would you consider linking out to us in your article? This would really help us out. And of course please let us know if there is anything we can do for you.

    Reply
  2. Jenn says

    June 20, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Never-in here with a question. If there are fewer and fewer CoS members, and the $$$ is all laundered into (empty, tax-free) real estate, what do you think will happen to that real estate equity down the road? I imagine there has to be a plan to get that cash into Miscavige’s pockets, right?

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      June 20, 2019 at 3:48 pm

      He doesnt need cash in his pocket. He has 3 billion available at the snap of his fingers. Why get anything personally that would give him a personal liability?

      Reply
      • smokkee911 says

        June 20, 2019 at 6:10 pm

        That’s the same 3 billion that he is going to personally use to get himself outta Dodge before the process servers find him and set himself up somewhere luxurious to ride it out…or die. I’d love to see him sweating it out in court but I believe I have better odds winning the lottery.

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      • Richard says

        June 20, 2019 at 6:58 pm

        The worldwide assessed real estate valuation might be over 1 billion. I don’t see.where an extra 3 billion comes from. Are the lawyers smart enough to hide that much money? I guess it’s possible.

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        • Mike Rinder says

          June 20, 2019 at 8:21 pm

          The 3 billion includes the real estate.

          Check how much money the FSO and IAS take in and accumulate that over the last 30 years and you will see how it’s possible. If it was ONLY a $1 million collected each week by CSI and IAS week (and it is a lot more than that) it would be $100 mil times 30 years (not counting what they had BEFORE that time)… That’s 3 billion. They have virtually no expenses. They dont pay staff and they dont pay rent.

          Reply
          • Richard says

            June 20, 2019 at 9:54 pm

            Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense.

            Reply
          • Peabody says

            June 21, 2019 at 12:34 am

            And don’t pay taxes much.

            Reply
  3. Robert King says

    June 20, 2019 at 12:16 am

    The “church” uses the most prettiest women and the handsomest men as the front person who greets those at the front entrance. I almost joined staff because of the cute girl who I thought had a more personal interest in me.
    Staff told me I should join SO because people in the SO will marry quickly .

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    • Aquamarine says

      June 20, 2019 at 5:25 pm

      I know 2 girls, desperate to get married, who were reg’ged for Sea Org that way. Reg’ged successfully, I might add.

      One of them is now married to a Hungarian guy who is a cleaner of some sort in the SO – he’s 8 years younger, Hungarian and barely speaks English.

      The other girl never made it out of the Sea Org’s EPF. She quit pretty quickly.

      But her long term K/A drinking family is wealthy so she’s now a public and auditing on 7 or 8,and to my knowledge still unmarried but very comfortable.

      Her problem was (is?) not finding someone to marry (millionaire’s daughters usually due quite well along this line) but finding a Scientology guy she could marry.

      Reply
  4. Scribe says

    June 19, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    To all ex-Scientologists posting here, who could have predicted in our kool-aid addled brains that in the not too distant future we would be speaking out about the abuses of this cult?

    Reply
    • Imaberrated says

      June 19, 2019 at 7:39 pm

      No way. I was born into the cult and a rabid believer.

      Reply
      • Scribe says

        June 20, 2019 at 1:13 am

        I was born at a very early age.

        Reply
        • Old Surfer Dude says

          June 20, 2019 at 11:42 am

          I was born right after you.

          Reply
          • Valerie says

            June 21, 2019 at 2:20 pm

            My dad’s life story – he told this to us all the time:

            “I was born at the tender age of two in a log cabin along the Rum River in the little town of Burpsville. I was born there because I wanted to be near my mother.

            Reply
  5. Wynski says

    June 19, 2019 at 3:40 pm

    LOL There are not enough scamologists in ALL of Africa to have enough students in the course rooms &people being audited to fulfill the requirements set out for a “Saint Hill sized Org” much less the numbers they have in reality.

    Reply
  6. Valerie says

    June 19, 2019 at 2:52 pm

    Just for comparison, I was going to list all the completions from an old Auditor magazine so people could see the lack of boom, but well, it would be too much work.

    Auditor #164, it had gone monthly by then, which was published sometime in 1979 listed clear numbers 19352-20445. One thousand one hundred and three clears made in scientology in one month.

    By Auditor #178, they were up to clear number 26336 and it went to 27665, so that month there were 1330 clears made.

    FWIW, this was during the period when people were allowed to declare to “natural clear” so a lot of clears were made. BUT in the same Auditor magazines, there is a newspaper sized page, font size 8, single spaced 8 columns of completions of other courses from Missions across scientology.

    Anyone who has read any of my prior comments understands that I am not a believer, I made it to OTV and that and $5 will buy me the bottom priced coffee on Starbucks menu.

    I am only posting this information to highlight the obvious: there is no boom. Any mission in scientology in the ’70s and ’80s was putting out more completions in a given day than any of ideal morgues do in a month these days.

    Anyone who is under the radar or who is questioning leaving, please ask Mike for my email address and I will email you copies of those Auditor magazines so you can see what it was like then. The reality is that the sham has been exposed for what it is and it is time to escape while you can.

    The curtain has been pulled back and “the mighty oz” has been exposed.

    Reply
    • TrevAnon says

      June 19, 2019 at 3:42 pm

      This may be relevant:

      http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/estimates-for-new-members-and-total-membership.44306/

      Reply
    • Richard says

      June 19, 2019 at 10:13 pm

      I think there was a lot of confusion about the clear numbering system when things got changed around in 1978. A recent thread on ESMB called “Clear:some background” included a 1989 article by David Mayo. Here’s a part of it:

      [Clear

      By David Mayo, USA.​

      In late 1978, the state of “dianetic clear” was announced. Within a few months two other “states of clear” were introduced: the state of “natural clear” and the state of “past life clear”.

      This change had two immediate consequences:

      1. The number of people attesting (correctly or falsely) to having attained the “state of clear” increased enormously.
      2. During and after that period, there was a considerable amount of upset and confusion about the “state of clear”.]

      Reply
      • Richard says

        June 20, 2019 at 7:32 am

        Here’s a link to the ESMB thread and the David Mayo article. During most of the 1970’s dianetic auditing came before scientology grades auditing and then came the “Clearing Course” or whatever it was called.

        http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/clear-some-background.50323/

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      • Richard says

        June 20, 2019 at 8:02 am

        I guess I hit a “sweet spot” in my scientology experience. I was training and co-auditing on the grades at the American Saint Hill Organization in LA in the late 1970’s when the “Dianetic Drug Rundown” came out. It was deemed a priority and myself and my co-auditor were transferred to it. At some point on the rundown I attested to “Dianetic Clear”. The Purification Rundown or sweat program was not yet up and running so I escaped that. Soon thereafter the monthly price increases resumed and I split and joined the Great Exodus in LA as it was called by some people.

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        • Richard says

          June 20, 2019 at 10:07 am

          The “Dianetic Drug Rundown” addressed attitudes, emotions, sensations and pains directly related to taking drugs and alcohol.

          Reply
        • Richard says

          June 20, 2019 at 3:22 pm

          Afterthought – On the “old” route to clear one of the setups or prerequisites to the Clearing Course was “power processing”. People would walk around with a note pinned to their shirt or blouse saying “I’m on Power. Please don’t talk to me.” !

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          • Valerie says

            June 21, 2019 at 2:24 pm

            And BAM you’ve hit the nail on the head. “People would walk around”

            This is all I was getting at. I don’t care how someone made the fictional state of clear and do not pretend that I am better than any other being on the planet because I have attested to some fictional OT Levels or have completed an embarrassing amount of scientology processing.

            All my post was pointing out was that

            There were people walking around,

            That is not the case these days. They are just big shiny empty buildings.

            I consider that a good thing.

            Reply
  7. No One says

    June 19, 2019 at 2:02 pm

    I’ve been hearing that Tampa is struggling as well.

    ***And They All Fall Down***

    Reply
    • Old Surfer Dude says

      June 19, 2019 at 9:04 pm

      He’ll no! Tampa is all the way up to ‘H’. And boy are they celebrating!

      Reply
  8. Scribe says

    June 19, 2019 at 12:53 pm

    You must remember this
    A fist is still a fist
    A lie is still a lie
    The fundamental things apply
    As cons go by

    And when Miscavige woos
    He still means I loathe you
    On that you can rely
    No matter what the future brings
    As cons go by

    SPs and OSA sorely out of date
    RPF assignments, jealousy and hate
    Kids without parents, nobody can relate
    That no one can deny

    It’s still the same old story
    With false pretended glory
    More pie up in the sky
    The world will never welcome bullshit
    As cons go by

    Reply
    • Aquamarine says

      June 19, 2019 at 1:31 pm

      Nice one, Scribe!

      Reply
    • Xenu's Son says

      June 19, 2019 at 3:00 pm

      nice one scribe.

      Reply
      • Skyler says

        June 19, 2019 at 4:36 pm

        Hey scribe, I’ve been humming that tune all day long. Nice one.

        Reply
    • Jere lull (38years recovering) says

      June 19, 2019 at 4:29 pm

      VERY NICELY DONE SCRIBE!

      Reply
    • Scribe says

      June 19, 2019 at 5:20 pm

      Thank you all for your compliments! This is almost like a second profession to me. Stay tuned for further lyrical musings on the depredations of the biggest con in the world.

      Reply
    • Scribe says

      June 19, 2019 at 5:32 pm

      Thanks to all for the nice compliments!

      Reply
      • Scribe says

        June 20, 2019 at 1:15 am

        Sorry, I got an error message on the first post, hence the redundancy.

        Reply
      • Xenu's Son says

        June 20, 2019 at 1:36 am

        It is getting time to set a Clear date. where a country is considered cleared of Scientology, and the Scientology funeral and eulogy is held.
        This would make a great funeral song

        Reply
    • bixntram says

      June 19, 2019 at 8:06 pm

      Play it again, Scribe.

      Reply
      • Scribe says

        June 19, 2019 at 10:19 pm

        Only if you take a chorus.

        Reply
        • Old Surfer Dude says

          June 20, 2019 at 11:46 am

          Do I have to wear a dress?

          Reply
          • Kat LaRue says

            June 20, 2019 at 5:54 pm

            OSD-

            A tutu will suffice.

            Kat

            Reply
            • Komodo Dragon says

              June 23, 2019 at 5:49 pm

              But OSD, please wear surf trunks under that tutu.

              Reply
    • Joe Pendleton says

      June 20, 2019 at 12:54 am

      Fantastic job Scribe ! I almost said “play it Sam” …but my own opinion is that “the world will ALWAYS welcome bullshit as cons go by” ..

      Reply
  9. Mary says

    June 19, 2019 at 11:40 am

    “…boasts a 20-man tech team including a Class VI, Flag trained C/S….”

    Bragging about a Class VI is so odd to me in this day and age considering no one can do the Class VI Briefing Course nor, obviously, the Class VIII Course right now. The Class VI Course has been pulled. No one knows why – maybe too many references that LRH made to “Suzie” or “Nibs” or some other family member or some deceased or alive SP that LRH referred to on many of the 400+ tapes, or maybe it’s because 3D Criss-Cross which LRH devotes many lectures, is “old” and “not used” any more. Anyway, I’m sure miscavige has a perfectly brilliant reason for getting rid of the Briefing Course but then he forgot to also close ASHO’s doors since they go hand in hand. I guess too many members might actually notice that.

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    • nomnom says

      June 19, 2019 at 1:27 pm

      Surprised they didn’t add FEBC and KTL completions since those aren’t delivered anymore either.

      Reply
      • Scribe says

        June 19, 2019 at 10:25 pm

        The Flag Extensive Bullshit Course and Keys To Losing will be available when GAT 3 is released sometime in the near future depending on the outcome of the current lawsuit against COB.

        Reply
  10. Joe Pendleton says

    June 19, 2019 at 11:19 am

    Clearing the planet? … Clearing Joburg? … How about just clearing the ORG? … One would think that THIS is the population at least that the CoS has complete control over … All pts sits handled , no sp’s, etc etc etc … And yet no org is able to even come close to just clearing its staff and in house public … The PLANET???? … How about your own freaking BUILDING fercryinoutloud!!!! (maybe if the exec council attends Arte Maren’s admin scale seminar … ok, Just kidding …)

    Reply
    • PeaceMaker says

      June 20, 2019 at 1:05 pm

      Joe, that’s indeed perhaps the most damning part – they can’t even clear themselves!

      I know they like to claim that staff and SO are operating at some high level just by virtue of the work they’re doing, though it’s more likely that Scientology would rather spend its resources “clearing” paying customers. Plus I think there’s a cynical calculation that “clear” is a carrot to hold out to keep people on staff, and that actually “clearing” them might make them more likely to quit or blow.

      Plus there’s no excuse for one of the other dirty little secrets of Scientology – there are quite a few old-time hangers-on at the orgs who’ve never been able to afford to go clear.

      Reply
  11. SILVIA says

    June 19, 2019 at 10:57 am

    Ah…, and by the time this student completes the e-metering course, full of Golden Tech arbitrariness, another year would have gone by.

    Reply
  12. bixntram says

    June 19, 2019 at 10:52 am

    My wish of the day in light of the lawsuits and bad PR the cherch is getting:

    The useful wog idiots everywhere who show up for the ribbon yankngs and anti-drug photo ops start making themselves unavailable. One can hope.

    Reply
  13. Skyler says

    June 19, 2019 at 10:49 am

    Mike Rinder said: “Scientology would be completely irrelevant to the world at this point if it didn’t have 3 billion dollars to implement its toxic policies to destroy enemies, break up families, abuse the elderly, bankrupt donors and cover up abuses.”

    Wow! That is some list you have made:

    1) Destroy Families
    2) Abuse the Elderly
    3) Bankrupt Donors
    4) Cover up Abuses

    I have to take exception to this list. Not only will I show up each and every point you have made, but I will also prove to you that the number of items you list is far from the truth.

    1) Destroy Families

    What do you mean saying they destroy families? This is very far from the truth. They destroy far more than just families. They destroy everyone they can get their claws into. They destroy individual’s sense of worth, their God-given right to Free Will, their freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, ….

    Well this list will obviously be too large for me to discuss each basic human right they destroy. So here is a small list of all the basic human rights and freedoms they destroy:

    Freedom from Discrimination
    Freedom from Arbitrary Arrest and Exile
    Freedom from Slavery
    Freedom from Torture and Degrading Treatment
    Freedom from Interference with Privacy, Family, Home and Correspondence
    Freedom of Belief and Religion
    Freedom of Opinion and Information

    Right to Rest and Leisure
    Right to Marriage and Family
    Right of Peaceful Assembly and Association
    Right to Adequate Living Standard
    Right to Life, Liberty, Personal Security
    Right to Recognition as a Person before the Law
    Right to Desirable Work and to Join Trade Unions
    Right to Participate in Government and in Free Elections
    Right to Equality before the Law
    Right to Remedy by Competent Tribunal
    Right to Fair Public Hearing
    Right to be Considered Innocent until Proven Guilty
    Right to Free Movement in and out of the Country
    Right to Participate in the Cultural Life of Community
    Right to Asylum from Persecution in other Countries
    Right to a Nationality and the Freedom to Change It
    Right to Own Property
    Right to Social Security
    Right to Education
    Right to a Social Order that Articulates this Document

    Freedom from State or Personal Interference in the above Rights

    Phew! I’m all tuckered out. I could present similar numbers of their violations for all four of the items on your list. I could also present a bunch more items for your list. But these fuckers are just not worth the effort. On the other hand, their victims are well worth the effort.

    Hey Mr. FBI. Where are you? What are you doing? Please get up off your ass and go bust these criminals!

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    • Old Surfer Dude says

      June 19, 2019 at 12:16 pm

      Outstanding post! Bravo! Skyle, you hit it out of the park!

      Reply
      • Skyler says

        June 19, 2019 at 4:22 pm

        Heh Heh. Thanks OSD.

        Reply
    • Clearly Not Clear says

      June 19, 2019 at 4:29 pm

      Freedom to be a journalist.

      Reply
    • jere lull (38years recovering) says

      June 19, 2019 at 4:33 pm

      Skyler, if I didn’t know better, I’d say you might have been working on that excellent list for a while.

      Reply
      • Skyler says

        June 19, 2019 at 6:54 pm

        Hey jere,

        The truth is I just Googled “List Human Rights and Freedoms” then used cut & paste.

        I was really surprised to see that I recalled examples from Mike & Leah’s show where they violated almost every single one of these rights and freedoms.

        That monster is such a scumbag. He took a big money-making scam and ran it right down the crapper. I sure am looking forward to the day this scam closes its doors.

        Reply
    • Kat LaRue says

      June 19, 2019 at 6:47 pm

      Good post Skyler! They take so much from everyone who associates with them. I hope to see the end here soon.

      Thank you,

      Kat

      Reply
      • Skyler says

        June 19, 2019 at 9:55 pm

        Hey Kat LaRue, Thank you. That means a lot coming from you.

        Reply
        • Kat LaRue says

          June 20, 2019 at 5:56 pm

          Skyler,

          Sorry I haven’t been posting as much- my son is staying with me for the summer and he has taken control off all electronics in my world..

          Kat

          Reply
  14. George M White says

    June 19, 2019 at 10:34 am

    Scientology is the Religion of reversals.
    You go backwards in spiritual development
    Backwards in financial development.
    Backwards in mental development
    and backwards in social development.

    Reply
    • Old Surfer Dude says

      June 19, 2019 at 12:18 pm

      If we go further back, we’ll be in the Stone Age.

      Reply
      • Miss Dutch says

        June 19, 2019 at 1:54 pm

        OSD, Scientology IS in the Stone Age. Hubbard never got out so neither did his crazy – I mean confused – I mean deluded – I mean ‘devout’ followers.

        Reply
        • Old Surfer Dude says

          June 19, 2019 at 9:10 pm

          Stone Age, huh. I’m going to leave my body and head for the Stone Age! That should be pretty bitchin’. I’ll tell ya what happens.

          Reply
          • bixntram says

            June 19, 2019 at 10:54 pm

            No need to tell me; I used to be stoner!

            Reply
            • Old Surfer Dude says

              June 20, 2019 at 11:49 am

              ROTFLMFAO! Used to be…?

              Reply
      • Kat LaRue says

        June 19, 2019 at 6:49 pm

        OSD,
        Wouldn’t that be awkward- meeting your former self over and over and having to explain why you’re STILL not clear???
        Kat

        Reply
    • Valerie says

      June 19, 2019 at 2:55 pm

      And financial security, don’t forget that, your financial security is in the garbage bin.

      Reply
  15. Scribe says

    June 19, 2019 at 10:31 am

    Even with ten billion it would be completely irrelevant.

    Reply
    • jere lull (38years recovering) says

      June 19, 2019 at 4:37 pm

      $3 billion, $10 billion… What’s the diff? the cult has never, CAN never, deliver on ANY of its promises or claims.It only PRETENDS that it has relevancy with the TAX FREE dollars it hordes.(whores?)

      Reply
      • smokkee911 says

        June 19, 2019 at 6:26 pm

        Definitely whores. Which unfortunately makes staff prostitutes to the biggest pimp ever.

        Reply
      • Aquamarine says

        June 20, 2019 at 5:31 pm

        All true, jere. All of which makes Co$ effectively a mere vanity project for David Miscavige. If you think about it, that’s all it is, really.

        Reply

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