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Scientology Shriveling. Media Take Note: They Lie To You.

November 19, 2014 By Mike Rinder 128 Comments

47X

This is the page listing the scientology orgs in the August 1976 reprint of Scientology A New Slant On Life.

 

Scan_20141119This presents the perfect opportunity to make a comparison to the list published in What Is Scientology? in 1992 and then the  CURRENT list on scientology.org. This is convenient breakdown into three periods.

I. From 1954 (the first church in Los Angeles) to 1976 (22 years).

II. From 1976 to 1992 (16 years).

III. From 1992 to 2014 (22 years).

You could call the first era the LRH Era, II is the Transition Era and III is the Miscavige Era.

This review definitively puts to rest ANY claims of straight up and vertical, 47X expansion in the Miscavige Era and classic bs the church sends to the media like this one to ABC News in July 2013 from Karin “Pinocchio” Pouw: “Scientology is a new religion enjoying explosive growth. In recent years we have opened 37 new Churches in major metropolitan areas and cultural centers in a dozen nations. This year will see many more milestones in the months to come. Mr. Miscavige is a visionary…” There are NUMEROUS examples of this line being run on the media — “If you were a real reporter you would find out the real story instead of listening to a handful of bitter, defrocked apostates on the fringes of the internet. Scientology, under the sublime leadership of Mr. David Miscavige, is undergoing its greatest expansion ever, with X new churches opened just in the last X.” It is a staple of every response to the media no matter the topic they are reporting on.

But back to the topic at hand here.  Let’s also not also forget the population of earth in 1954 was about 2.7 billion.  In 76 it was about 4.0 billion. By 92 it was about 5.4 billion. Today it is around 7.3 billion.

Here are the breakdowns by scientology continental area (now updated with two additional closures sent in by readers — CC Mun and ASHO Fdn).

United States:

Created between 1954 and 1976: Austin, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Honolulu, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, St Louis, Twin Cities, Washington DC, ASHO Day, ASHO Fdn, AOLA, CC LA (Int), Pubs US (Bridge Publications). TOTAL 25

Added between 1976 and 1992:   Albuquerque, Ann Arbor (now Battle Creek), Atlanta, Cincinnati, Columbus, Kansas City, CC Las Vegas, Long Island,  Mountain View, Nashville, New Haven, Orange County, Orlando, Pasadena, Phoenix, Puerto Rico, Salt Lake City, Santa Barbara, Stevens Creek, Tampa, Valley, CC Dallas (now Dallas Org), CC Ptl, CC Nashville, CC NY, CCDC,  TOTAL 26

Added between 1992 and 2014:  Harlem, Inglewood, Los Gatos — closed ASHO Fdn, CC Portland, CC DC TOTAL o

Canada:

1954 – 1976: Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver TOTAL 4

1976 – 1992: Edmonton, Kitchener, Quebec, Winnipeg TOTAL 4

1992 – 2014: Cambridge  TOTAL 1

Europe:

1954 – 1976:  Pubs DK (New Era), Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Denmark, Gotenberg, Malmo, Munich, Paris, Stockholm, Vienna AOSHEU TOTAL 11

1976 – 1992: Aarhus, Angers, Basel, Bern, Brussels,Clermont-Ferrand, Lyon, St. Etienne, Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Hannover, Stuttgart, Tel Aviv, Oslo, Lisbon, Barcelona, Madrid, Bern, Geneva, Lausanne, Zurich, CC Vienna, CC Paris, CC Dusseldorf, CC Hamburg, CC Munich TOTAL 28

1992 – 2014: Moscow, St Petersburg, Athens, Budapest. Closed CC Munich, CC Hamburg TOTAL 2

Italy (only because scientology treats it as a separate “continent”):

1954 – 1976:  NONE

1976 – 1992: Brescia, Catania, Monza, Milano, Nuoro, Novara, Padua, Pordenone, Roma, Torino, Verona TOTAL 11

1992 – 2014:  Florence, Pordenone Closed. TOTAL 0

United Kingdom:

1954 – 1976:  AOSHUK, SHF, London, Manchester, Plymouth,  Edinburgh TOTAL 6

1976 – 1992: Birmingham, Brighton, Sunderland, CC London TOTAL 4

1992 – 2014: Closed CC London and SHF TOTAL -2

South Africa:

1954 – 1976:  Bulawayo, Capetown, Durban, Johannesburg, Pt Elizabeth, Pretoria TOTAL 6

1976 – 1992:  Joburg North, Harare TOTAL 2

1992 – 2014: NONE

Australia/New Zealand:

1954 – 1976:  Adelaide, Melbourne, Perth, Sydney, Auckland TOTAL 5

1976 – 1992:  Brisbane, Canberra, Tokyo, AOSHANZO TOTAL 4

1992 – 2014:  Kaohsuing TOTAL 1

Latin America:

1954 – 1976:  NONE

1976 – 1992:  Bogota, Mexico City (ADD, ACD, ITD, IFA1 IFA 2) Guadalajara, Valencia, Caracas TOTAL 9

1992 – 2014: Buenos Aires TOTAL 1

 

TOTALS:

ORGS OPENED BETWEEN 1954 and 1976: FIFTY SEVEN while the population increased from 2.7 to 4 billion

ORGS ADDED BETWEEN 1976 and 1992: EIGHTY EIGHT while the population increased from 4 to 5.4 billion

ORGS ADDED BETWEEN 1992 and 2014: THREE while the population increased from 5.4 to 7.3 billion

 

“47X”, “straight up and vertical”, “greatest period of growth in history” are not just lies, they are magnificent, bald-faced, incredible, astonishing, unbelievable lies.

The dwindling number of sheeple keep swallowing them as they accept ANYTHING they are told by their Dear Leader.

What is more disturbing is the fact that when the church sends the media this drivel about their expansion and opening new churches blah blah blah, they often accept it uncritically, print it and thus give some credence to the lies.

I hope that in future, media will be interested enough to do a bit of research and perhaps even look at these facts.

 

Peter Griffiths has taken the time to create graphs to visually tell the story above. I am adding them below.

47X Total Scientology ExpansionPopuation growth (1)USA (2)CanadaEuropeItalyUKSouth AfricaAustralia&New ZealandLatin America

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Comments

  1. The Phoenix says

    November 23, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Great post M. Rinder !

    Very helpful indeed. Real stats never lie.

    ARC
    TP

    Reply
  2. Gus Cox says

    November 21, 2014 at 11:48 pm

    Ah, ha – that list from 1976 cleared something up – I kept hearing that Pennsylvania only ever had 1 org – Philadelphia. But I distinctly recall the “Ardmore Org” so that would have made two orgs in PA.

    But I see there that the so-called Philadelphia Org was actually located in Ardmore at that time. I may have been called the Philly org by the Church, but locals called it the Ardmore Org. That jogged my memory – now I remember when it moved to Race Street.

    So the two Orgs I remember – Philadelphia and Ardmore – were actually one and the same. Blast from the past, man.

    Speaking of which, seeing all those pre-Cedars Los Angeles org addresses is bringing on the nostalgia… Makes me want to take a run down to Tommy’s Hamburgers at Beverly and Rampart next time I’m in LA!

    Reply
  3. Gus Cox says

    November 21, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    I vote for “Captain Shithead, Sir!”

    lol

    Reply
  4. Anette Iren Johansen says

    November 20, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Update for Europe: Copenhagen Org is closed. It merged with Denmark Org some years ago.

    Reply
  5. Hallie Jane says

    November 20, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Thanks Mike, Peter and everyone who contributed to the truth and accuracy. That’s refreshing in itself. Real stats!

    Reply
  6. Zephyr says

    November 20, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Best ammunition……it is printed out…..I know what to do with it…
    Just wonderful Christmas presents – THE TRUTH!
    Join me in a grandiose re-education campaign…
    Greta

    Reply
  7. Lawrence DeRoe says

    November 20, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    Did you notice the numbers for Europe and Italy (which was still “run by EU”, but had a sub-coverning office in Milano) … during that time of expansion the CO (Commanding Officer)n for Europa was Guillaume Lesevre. And due to that he was called to become ED INT (Executive Director International) in 1982.
    Look what happened then … no further expansion in Europe and Guillaume, who drove a somewhat realistic expansion forward in those days, over the years made ineffective and driven off the scene.
    Was he too good (meaning a threat) for DM?!!! 😉

    Reply
  8. Maureen says

    November 20, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Re in above article:
    “United States:

    Created between 1954 and 1973: Austin, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Honolulu, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, St Louis, Twin Cities, Washington DC, ASHO Day, ASHO Fdn, AOLA, CC LA (Int), Pubs US (Bridge Publications). TOTAL 25”

    Should this say between 1954 and 1976, instead of 1973? Otherwise there is a time gap not covered under US orgs.

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      November 20, 2014 at 10:44 am

      Yes, fixed.

      Reply
      • Maureen says

        November 20, 2014 at 12:44 pm

        I noticed other spots that may need a look at. I’m not trying to be nit picky at all, but I think that this is such an important article and has such important info. I didn’t want anyone reading it to have lingering questions. Mike’s post is a brilliant simple analysis of truth – plain as day.

        1) RE: Australia/New Zealand:
        1973 – 1992: Brisbane, Canberra, Tokyo, AOSHANZO TOTAL 4
        Should above say 1976-1992?

        2) RE: Latin America:
        1954 – 1973: NONE
        1973 – 1992: Bogota, Mexico City (ADD, ACD, ITD, IFA1 IFA 2) Guadalajara, Valencia, Caracas TOTAL 9
        Should these “1973” dates be 1976?

        3) RE: Italy:
        1976 – 1992: Brescis, Catania, Monza, Milano, Nuoro, Novara, Padua, Pordenone, Roma, Torino, Verona TOTAL 8
        I’m not familiar with Italian cities at all, but this looks like 11 cities rather than 8.

        4) If Italy should be 11 instead of 8, then the Grand Total for all orgs 1976-1992 would need to be changed to 88 instead of 85.

        5) Also, Peter’s graphs – which I LOVE by the way – need all the 2nd columns to say 1976-1992, not 1976-1982 as they do now (and also amended for Italy if the numbers change).

        6) Re the graph for UK orgs, the third column (1992-2014) is actually a negative number (minus 2) so would have to be below the zero line.

        Most of my life I’ve had jobs requiring close attention to number details and these things caught my attention. Now I need some coffee.

        Reply
        • Mike Rinder says

          November 20, 2014 at 12:58 pm

          Thanks Maureen.

          I appreciate the proofreading.

          The worst thing to do with something like this is try and modify it (you may know the original version had a list that was from the wrong date). And I didn’t do a really good job of proofing the changes.

          I have corrected all the points. I will alert Pete. He already redid these a couple of times! But I will let him know.

          Again thanks. I like to ensure things are accurate.

          Reply
  9. Heather R says

    November 20, 2014 at 8:44 am

    The reporters who manage to get this data in their newspapers, will go down in history as heroes. Thanks Mike, your diligence is amazing.

    Reply
  10. Meja Deja says

    November 20, 2014 at 6:35 am

    Excellent layout. Makes it really clear. May I ask, Mike, why you chose those time
    start – 1976, 1976 – 1992, 1992 – PT? What are the specific reasons for 76 and 92?

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      November 20, 2014 at 7:50 am

      That’s when the lists are from in the NSOL and WIS? — if they books were published in different years I would have done the years they were published in.

      Reply
  11. double-xx says

    November 20, 2014 at 5:19 am

    the CC in Munich germany is closed.

    Reply
  12. Espiritu says

    November 20, 2014 at 2:47 am

    Mike, you ARE dispensing mercy…..you are hitting them with the TRUTH. Thanks for providing hard data to validate what I and many other old timers remember.

    It is very important for newer Scientologists to know that Miscavige is a usurper. He has NOT been expanding Scientology.
    He the main source of its shrinking.
    He has NOT been “purifying” the Tech.
    He has been and altering it and corrupting its application.

    Old timers who remember when Scientology was actually expanding and the Tech was more purely taught and applied have a perspective that newer people do not have. I am not going to call ALL of you newer Scientologists “cool-aid drinkers” even if may of you are. But,I will say that you are “believers”. I invite you to take an honest look at these statistics that Mike is publishing here for you to see. He’s not making this stuff up.
    Despite the bombastic bragging, Miscavige is no LRH…..far from it.
    Ron was a great writer, and inquirer, and a seeker of truth who discovered many things that have enhanced people’s lives.
    Miscavige is a gravy trainer who has been usurping, corrupting and leeching off of someone else’s accomplishments.

    Thanks for this article, Mike. You are a champion for truth.

    Reply
  13. babybunker says

    November 20, 2014 at 1:06 am

    Bravo Professor Rinder..I am so glad that I showed up for class today! Fabulous Research..and it is all in black and white! Kudos to you!

    Reply
    • babybunker says

      November 20, 2014 at 1:08 am

      OOps Black , White AND Red!

      Reply
  14. Anon says

    November 20, 2014 at 12:17 am

    Thank you for taking the time to research this and give real numbers. I wish more media outlets put in the effort like you did before they publish.

    Reply
  15. scnethics says

    November 19, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, tells us we are very close to the point in the story where things REALLY start getting bad for Miscavige and his failing organization.

    Reply
    • MJ says

      November 20, 2014 at 12:45 am

      And the envelope please. Best performance of a gangster impersonating a religious leader in a starring role goes to…………… David Miscavige!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Reply
  16. Good Old Boy says

    November 19, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    Great post Mike. thank-you for doing this.

    Reply
  17. Zzzzzzz says

    November 19, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    Mike, Very nice job you did putting this info together. I think the press will find it useful and very welcome.

    I think the FOT book that RJ sent you may be using a list of orgs as of around 1977 rather than 1973. As ASHO and AOLA, LAD, etc. all have the Big Blue addresses in that book which I think started in 1977 after CoS purchased Cedars in 1976.

    Reply
    • Zzzzzzz says

      November 19, 2014 at 6:33 pm

      Bad timing on my part. I just saw that you corrected your post to say 1976 which seems correct.

      Reply
    • remoteviewed says

      November 19, 2014 at 7:50 pm

      Z

      RJ,

      Haven’t seen that handle in a long time 😉

      Yeah I let Mike know I screwed the pooch on that one. Guess it woulda been better if I hadn’t confused the published date with the copyright dates.

      Oh well made a note to self to verify my data sources before I send ’em out.

      Anyway I think Mike did an excellent job of catching my dropped ball.

      Reply
      • Hallie jane says

        November 20, 2014 at 12:51 am

        No worries remoteviewed, thx for trying to help.

        Reply
  18. SILVIA says

    November 19, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Fascinating summary coming from an apostate in the fringes of the Internet but, aside joking, THANK YOU.

    Now, close to 1992-1993 DM was more on the lines, since then some Orgs have closed and Mission NW definitely was collapsed by then.

    In Mexico, specifically Guadalajara, since its inception the Org has had 3 staff members and about 5-6 public in moments of momentary affluence. It is so inactive that practically falls into the category of nonexistent. And I am sure there are many others around the globe in the same category.

    The overall picture is implosion.

    Re the point of lying so bluntly to the parishioners and media, it indicates a sick soul, to say the least. But lies eventually evaporate after hitting you hard in the face.

    Reply
  19. Bognition says

    November 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Awesome post, Mile! What further evidence does one need to show that an SP is running the joint?
    Yo, Slappy, looks like you turned the meat and potato stats into a few dried up scraps.

    Reply
    • MJ says

      November 19, 2014 at 6:18 pm

      Slappy feeling crappy, too weak to attack me, I know he’ll never ack me, it’s time to call his pappy!

      Reply
      • Bognition says

        November 19, 2014 at 8:49 pm

        Awesome MJ

        Reply
      • Zephyr says

        November 20, 2014 at 3:32 pm

        MJ = unbeatable! 🙂
        Greta

        Reply
  20. Jeff René Drea says

    November 19, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    in france in 2014 SAINT ETIENNE mission , VANNES and TOULOUSE , and BRUNOY just disapeared
    MARSEILLES has a small mission someday opens ..
    LYON somedays closed a very tiny org …

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  21. Roger From Switzerland Thought says

    November 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    Basel was a Mission until 1980 when it became a Class IV Org. Bern was a Mission in 1974 and some years later became a Class IV Org, but Bern ist mentionned 2x (before and after 1974).
    Also, Geneva isn’t really an Org, it has about 2-3 Staffs and the same with Bern which has about 5-6 staffs and is in a very run-down building.
    May I make a Suggestion….
    It would be cool to have a link for the media, where they can get their Infos as short and concise FACTS without any bias or HE&R and with all references and links to the sources of the Facts and summaries, so they can make up their minds in very short time. Facts are Facts.

    And by the way, Basel which will open soon will have the nicest overwiev from any front Window over one of the propably biggest psychiatric compound of the world . About 1 square Kilometer of different Psychiatric clinics, hospitals for the disableds and all kinds of health institutions. The students and Pc’s can then walk around in very nice psychiatric parcs and can meet the products of psychiatric care and any time they look out the Windows they’ll see all the clinics and be reminded of their SPs.

    And behind the clinics you have all the huge buildings of the biggest pharmaceutical industry in the world , about 10-20 square Kilometers of chemical industry..
    – http://www.novartis.com/about-novartis/locations/basel-headquarters.shtml
    So the staffs have to confront everyday their ennemies.

    I make a bet that DM will not be at the opening ceremony of Basel, as he wouldn’t be able to confront this phantastic view, and also there will not be a possibilty to put a huge crowd in front of the building for the ceremony as on the street where the entrance is are rails for the tramways that will pass the org about every 10 Minutes in both directions. And the tramway in Basel is a holy cow that the People are proud of, and they’ll never aloud the tramways not running. Perhaps they’ll make the ceremony on a parking behind the building where there isn’t the main entrance. They will be very busy photoshopping to get any good Pictures.

    I bet DM will not come to Basel inmidst one of the most suppressiv Environment full of Psychiatrists and Pharmaceutical Industry as Walter Kotric and the CO of Basel used to say.
    You’ll have to pay me a beer when he’ll not come MIKE !

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  22. Friend says

    November 19, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    Wall Street and Scientology .. hahahhaha .. OTC BB ..

    Reply
  23. ka says

    November 19, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    “ORGS ADDED BETWEEN 1992 and 2014: FIVE while the population increased from 5.4 to 7.3 billion”

    David Misacavige is such a DOWNSTAT! – And he knows it…

    That is one of the reasons why he has to suppress the communication and information of everyone around; he is afraid they could find out.

    There is straight up and vertical, monumental, never greater, unprecedented, massive, explosive and 47x global growth: of hype, scam, distortion, disconnections, deceit, human rights violations, lies and enemies made. These are Chairman Miscavige’s real stats.

    Reply
    • MJ says

      November 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm

      Yeah, but he’s got great shoes!

      Reply
  24. Shelley says

    November 19, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    This is excellent – thanks Mike. Definitely worthy of being bookmarked and sent to media and other KA’s or UTR’s who are dilly-dallying on the fringes.

    Reply
  25. I Yawnalot says

    November 19, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    ahh Truth… the final frontier.
    The media is something of a wonder in the way they gobble up lies when even a cursory look at the facts and an iota of research paints an entirely different picture.
    Maybe, just maybe some honesty might creep into the broader public arena regarding the abusive and downright criminal activities of miscavige. I hope the media starts to care about the victims a bit more than a story line.
    Tick tock Davey boy, the tide has began to turn. Your 30 year comm lag is announcing itself.

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  26. Where did everyone go? says

    November 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Nice snapshot of the “Orgs”. I want to add that the number of staff, public getting services, and anyone who identifies with scientology as their religion or philosophy has collapsed. Evidenced by completions , national surveys of religious memberships and visuals of the facilities and their parking lots. “Orgs”, as a number, are just descriptive of the MEST and organized entities. Scientology is like a corpse from which the spirit has long since fled.

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  27. Zephyr says

    November 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Mike,
    That’s a great one!
    Now that is a REAL stat, looks like a steep DANGER.
    If the current dictatorship would change, something could be done about it.
    Greta

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    • Jose Chung says

      November 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

      Of course you are reading the graph upside down.
      Or you don’t think it’s the COB’s stat graph ?
      That’s worthy of the “HOLE” oopsy!!!!

      Reply
      • Zephyr says

        November 20, 2014 at 3:30 pm

        🙂
        Greta

        Reply
  28. zemooo says

    November 19, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Nice to see that some, outside of the clampire, can count. It would be nice if other news organizations would actually check on Pouw’s ‘releases’, but the newspaper world just doesn’t work like that anymore.

    How much of the new mOrgs actually represent the consolidation of a number of missions? With the disappearance of the ‘foundation’ mOrgs (actually just the night shift) how many actual organizational units are still operating?

    The stalled ‘renovations’ of new mOrgs in Boston, Philadelphia and other places just shows that the real estate scam is on its last legs. The locals seem to have caught on to the International Landlord scam that sees the money raised by the locals ‘disappear’ into some other account.

    I am going to get a tshirt with the 47x logo on it, that meme is just hilarious.

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  29. 1984 says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    Mike, there is a bit of an out-point here “…back pages of a copy of Fundamentals of Thought published in 1973.”
    The addresses of the Orgs don’t match this date. The date would likely be in the early 80’s.

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    • Mike Rinder says

      November 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm

      Why do you say that? Is there an org you know moved between 1973 and 1980 that has the new address?

      I was definitely told it was a 1973 edition, but I only have those two pages.

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      • remoteviewed says

        November 19, 2014 at 3:25 pm

        My error Mike.

        Sorry for that. I says Copyright (c) 1956,1972, 1973 so I ass-u-me d that the copyrighted date was the same as the published date. So this is not Mike’s error but mine.

        It was also published by Publications Org so I again ass-u-me d that it was a 1970’s publication and thus never look to see if it was reprinted.

        Anyway blame it on the source being me here and not Mike’s calculations which seem pretty sound to me.

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        • Mike Rinder says

          November 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm

          Robin — do you know when the edition is from?

          I will adjust the posting so it is accurate for the media if I can nail it down.

          It just makes it worse for the current state of the church, not better.

          But I would very much like to narrow down to the correct date.

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      • remoteviewed says

        November 19, 2014 at 3:53 pm

        Sure do Mike,

        Ok so it’s published by Pubs Org US Copyright dates (c) 1956, 1972, 1973, by L Ron Hubbard.

        Followed by a bunch of reprinting dates 19 to be exact (which I never bothered to check but anyway) last one is 1980.

        So ’84 is right.

        Hope this helps.

        Sorry for the screw up.

        L

        Robin

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        • Mike Rinder says

          November 19, 2014 at 4:37 pm

          Not sure if that last reprinting date is 80 why you are saying 84?

          Reply
      • remoteviewed says

        November 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm

        “1984” is the commenter who pointed out the error.

        But yes that’s a definitive *1980* as the final reprint.

        From my fact checking department 😉

        Remember Bridge took over from Pubs in ’82.

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        • Mike Rinder says

          November 19, 2014 at 5:31 pm

          I found a 1976 edition of NSOL so I used that and have corrected the post accordingly.

          Reply
    • remoteviewed says

      November 19, 2014 at 5:38 pm

      Roger that Mike,

      I won’t even ask if you’re sure it’s a 1976 edition because I know you probably checked the printing dates after our little fiasco.

      Reply
  30. DollarMorgue says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Oh yes, 5X more than the past 50 years combined? Let’s see the averages per era:

    I. 4.37 orgs per year
    II. 3.47 orgs per year
    III. 0.23 orgs per year (in words: zero point two three)

    Now THAT is straight across and prostrate.

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  31. WhiteStar says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    asking the main stream media to print facts is like asking scientology to do the same. never gonna happen.

    but one thing leads to another……..

    The deception with tact, just what are you trying to say?
    You’ve got a blank face, which irritates
    Communicate, pull out your party piece
    You see dimensions in two
    State your case with black or white
    But when one little cross leads to shots, grit your teeth
    You run for cover so discreet, why don’t they

    Do what they say, say what you mean
    One thing leads to another
    You told me something wrong, I know I listen too long
    But then one thing leads to another.

    The impression that you sell
    Passes in and out like a scent
    But the long face that you see comes from living close
    To your fears

    If this is up then I’m up but you’re running out of sight
    You’ve seen your name on the walls
    And when one little bump leads to shock miss a beat
    You run for cover and there’s heat, why don’t they

    Do what they say, say what they mean
    One thing leads to another
    You told me something wrong, I know I listen too long
    But then one thing leads to another
    One thing leads to another

    Then it’s easy to believe
    Somebody’s been lying to me
    But when the wrong word goes in the right ear
    I know you’ve been lying to me
    It’s getting rough, off the cuff I’ve got to say enough’s enough

    Bigger the harder he falls
    But when the wrong antidote is like a bulge on the throat
    You run for cover in the heat, why don’t they

    Do what they say, say what they mean
    One thing leads to another
    You tell me something wrong, I know I listen too long
    But then one thing leads to another

    aptly written by “The Fixx”.

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  32. deanblair06 says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    Great post Mike. Thank you for the information. One thing however is that you referred to David Miscavige as Mr. David Miscavige. Shouldn’t it be Captain David Miscavige?

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    • Cooper Kessel says

      November 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      Howz about ‘shithead’, or Mr. Shithead to us fringe bloggers?

      Reply
  33. bortas says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Good work Mike. I would add that all of the new Orgs in the US in the Miscavige period were just to clean up a mess – Harlem and Inglewood due to pressure to get black people into Scientology and to appear “hip” and “inclusive”. Los Gatos was a mission turned into an Org in order to sweep up the Joey Allesandrini mess. Did he go to prison or was he just kicked out of Scientology?

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      November 19, 2014 at 12:50 pm

      NO, he was not prosecuted. Long story.

      Reply
    • cindy says

      November 19, 2014 at 7:38 pm

      What is the Joey Allesandrini story?

      Reply
      • Mike Rinder says

        November 19, 2014 at 8:19 pm

        He was a criminal Mission Holder who ripped off tons of money from the Mission to live a very lavish lifestyle, including a very extensive collection of expensive wines. There were a lot of the Mission Holders from that era who were in it for the money — it wasn’t all the rose tinted glasses stories that people recall so fondly of the wonderful missions. Though I will say that the free market was probably a better incentive for these guys to make their missions work (ie be profitable) than admin tech proved to be. They did things their way.

        Alessandrini landed himself in the sights of the IRS and we had to bail him out to prevent him being prosecuted, take away the mission and turn it into an org under management control, clean up the financial irregularities and calm the IRS down as it was a breach of the settlement agreement terms and he could have single-handedly lost exemption for all churches.

        I am explaining the circumstances then, not how I might view it now.

        Alessandrini was brought to LA under OSA care for some time. He was also going through a divorce. And his daughter was in the SO in LA.

        He was basically banished from scientology.

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  34. Jenni S says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    There were 2 missions in Oklahoma city, one in the 1980s and one in the 1990s. That was before I lived in OKC so I don’t know exactly what happened. I don’t think Oklahoma would be the easiest place to start a mission.

    Reply
    • Beryl says

      November 19, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      Indeed. Oklahoma is Baptist, and I think Baptists are about as different from Scientology as you can get.

      Reply
    • Potpie says

      November 19, 2014 at 1:46 pm

      There was a non functioning Mission in Edmund during the
      late 70’s. Not doing anything, just had the title.

      Reply
    • Old Surfer Dude says

      November 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm

      Jenni, my Dad’s side of the family were from OKC. If they found out about scientology, they’d be at their door with torches and pitchforks along with tar and feathers. They don’t cotton to cults in that part of the country.

      Reply
  35. DollarMorgue says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    47X lives down the toilet. I don’t see any lies…

    Reply
  36. Jenni S says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    Mr. Miscavige certainly IS a visionary. How can you doubt it? He sees things no one else sees. Breaking down the time periods into the LRH period, transitional period and Miscavige period is very useful and illuminating.

    Reply
  37. Still on your side says

    November 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    Similar to a lobster that doesn’t realize it is being boiled to death, the church has been transformed, bit by bit, from a collection of churches into Miscavige’s real estate empire. What happens to the money when the enterprise gets sold?

    Reply
    • Zephyr says

      November 19, 2014 at 1:25 pm

      Well, how about using that money to pay pensions to the S.O. members who worked their butt off for decades and have nothing to look forward to in their old age?
      Greta

      Reply
      • DollarMorgue says

        November 19, 2014 at 3:13 pm

        I would favour that option.

        Reply
      • Old Surfer Dude says

        November 19, 2014 at 4:27 pm

        Absolutely! They were victims too! When it all fails, at least they’ll have some money to start over! I hope that happens for them.

        Reply
      • MJ says

        November 19, 2014 at 4:51 pm

        “I fed and housed them all these years, and this is the thanks I get?” (From his soon to be published autobiography: I brought the Golden age and the Goldenrod)

        Reply
    • dave95694 says

      November 19, 2014 at 2:12 pm

      Very apt observation “Similar to a lobster that doesn’t realize it is being boiled to death, the church has been transformed, bit by bit”

      What will happen when the enterprise is sold? It will never be sold. No one legally owns it and its corporate charter has no provisions for dissolution. It will continue until its resources are depleted.

      Now if I were a criminally insane evil genius, I would run the tech into the ground till there was no demand for it, then reduce the liabilities and expenses to a point below what the endowment of the church could supply in income from investments, while keeping up the appearances of being a religion.

      Which is what I see happening. Well maybe not with the genius part, but certainly the evil.

      Reply
    • JennyAtLAX (@JennyAtLAX) says

      November 19, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      Re: Miscavige’s real estate empire

      “David Miscavige… easily cost us $25 million in overspends. He… is a very unlikable character. In my dealings with him, he treated me with disdain. He was arrogant, lacking any warmth… and was generally unkind. That gives a good sample of this man as a Scientology executive. He did not care about Scientology staff or the public.”

      “It is Sea Org policy that when a person’s production consistently amounts to a destructive act, they shall be demoted. There were years of negligence and the many legal mess-ups that… Miscavige… was involved in from his position cost the Church many millions.”

      http://www.freedommag.org/sites/default/files/declaration06.pdf

      https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-shriveling-media-take-note-they-lie-to-you/

      Reply
  38. Jose Chung says

    November 19, 2014 at 11:46 am

    The 47 X expansion number has to be the amount of Scotch consumed
    by the great visionary at Int.Base. If this claim was made by a company on the NY stock exchange
    it would be checked out by all of the Worlds expert analysts. Nobody ( except you know who)makes a claim like this without the proof and hard statistics to back it up

    Reply
  39. Cars says

    November 19, 2014 at 11:21 am

    What a fantastic and useful summary! Thank you very much. In its own way, this is a great followup to yesterday’s post which proved that online activism can be effective and response turnaround time can be quick in some cases, i.e. the Chult’s infringement on the Univ. of Michigan’s IP. (See https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-funny-thing-happened/)

    I can’t help but think that today’s post is a further call to action to those of us engaged in armchair and grassroots activism and also a quiet challenge to those who have been fence sitters, dissaffected, or pessimistic about the power of one individual, armed with only a keyboard and an internet connection, to affect change.

    Here’s powerful data handed to us, neatly tabulated on a single page, ready to be printed out for quiet dissemination to the scientologists in our lives who we are trying to wake up, or it can be linked to and forwarded to the appropriate media, city council, business people, research groups, politicians, lawyers, or other opinion leaders that we are trying to reach with the truth about the current status of the CofS.

    I can also see how for every press release or statement issued to the media by COB-Un and his Church of Spin, using his sock puppet Karin Pouw, which boasts of its expansion and David Miscavige’s unavailability due to his busy, busy, busy ecclesiastical schedule and the dedication of new churches globally, we can counteract this by simply attaching or linking this data along with a simple explanatory note – then hit SEND. Viola! Done. Done. And Done!

    On a personal level, this has made my life a lot simpler and I have utter confidence in forwarding this data. Mr. Mike, I can’t begin to tell you enough how appreciative I am for this information today!

    The name of this blog “Something Can Be Done About It” is modeled after this blog’s Mission Statement (see link at the top) and Mike has proven this day after day by exposing the truth about the Chult, with his daily dedication to this blog, his willingness to give affidavits in courts cases, and many other actions that we will probably never know about. Mike and his blog have strengthened my conviction that indeed I, too, can do something about it. Today’s data just made it easier for me to do so.

    Reply
    • Hallie Jane says

      November 19, 2014 at 1:45 pm

      Great comment Cars. It’s important for us to remember that we’re not alone. There are many, many decent groups and productive individuals who are being a voice of reason and integrity in the world. They are my group, they are my people. Despite the depravity of the current radical church, I still feel that auditing can be a force for good and relief of suffering, for those that wish it. Dm the usurper and his minions have actively suppressed the hope of many, for too long with their duplicity and lies. There is a much bigger picture out there, of true spiritual advancement or “livingness”, in a word, integrity. The hangers-on have abandoned theirs entirely, and methinks Mike has plenty.

      Reply
      • Good Old Boy says

        November 19, 2014 at 8:07 pm

        Great comment Hallie Jane, I’m currently getting the best auditing I’ve ever received in the Independent field. Ruds are always in, speed of case gain 47x and no IAS reg lurking in the waiting room. The furture will be much much better for Scientology in the Independent Field. P.S. I’m a CLVI C/S and do know something of what I write about.

        Reply
      • McCarran says

        November 20, 2014 at 7:49 am

        Yea, but are you GAT II, Good Old Boy?
        Just kidding.
        I’m glad to read that you are doing well getting auditing in the Independent Field. I suppose you couldn’t say with who?

        Reply
    • Aurora says

      November 19, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      Mike: per Cars’ comment. Would it be possible for you to add this column to your list there on the right, Popular Posts? Would facilitate the circulation to larger media contacts.

      Thank you again for your living example of courage, honor and generosity of spirit.

      A Never In.

      Reply
      • Mike Rinder says

        November 19, 2014 at 4:39 pm

        The “popular posts” is generated by the number of visitors. So you either need to click on it about 10,000 times, or pay someone in India to do it like the church does.

        But I can make this featured. I just want to be sure I have all the facts straight about the date of the list I published from FOT as there is some back and forth about that right now. Once I have it straight and the posting modified accordingly I will feature this on the front page so it is easy to find.

        Reply
  40. Douglas says

    November 19, 2014 at 11:07 am

    1954 – 1973: Game

    1973 – 1992: Set

    1992 – 2014: Match

    stick a fork in him…he’s done.

    Reply
    • McCarran says

      November 19, 2014 at 5:25 pm

      1954 – 1973: Create

      1973 – 1992: Survive

      1992 – 2014: Destroy

      Reply
      • Mike Rinder says

        November 19, 2014 at 5:32 pm

        Very apt

        Reply
  41. LDW says

    November 19, 2014 at 11:04 am

    I see that with this massive expansion of MEST, miscavige is also getting some awesome public relations and has estabilshed full PR area control all over the globe:

    http://www.msn.com/en-au/video/watch/scientology-buying-up-big-in-oz/vi-BBeql42?ocid=mailsignout

    Reply
    • Robert Almblad says

      November 19, 2014 at 8:34 pm

      Wow… when I 1st read this story about them buying a $37 million Australian property, I figured it was just a PR stunt for the whales and clapping seals. Something like this: RCS “buys” the property on the contingency of zoning approval and then they get their money back after the locals throw them out, but in the meantime Miscavige gets the whales and clapping seals to cough up even more money for nothing more than an empty contract and some more controversy about the cult of Scientology. If they go ahead with this, the only people moving into that building will be foreigners that don’t speak English! Ha, what a joke.

      Reply
      • Orc Bored says

        November 20, 2014 at 4:05 am

        I don’t think that there are whales to speak of in Australia, especially in Sydney.

        It took 10 years and a lot of fundraising to pull off just the renovation of Sydney Org and they skimped on everything they could (chipboard used extensively, glass dividers in the FART were thin and not secured properly from day one, floor tiles moving above cabling, etc). McMansion quality.

        The AO owns its current location in Greek St and it’s been eyed for residential development for a long time so I think those developers who got the Audio Lab site rezoned may have an option to buy the property at Greek St or the Sea Org may pay some interest on a bridging loan until its sold.
        (Part of the Audio Lab site will have 60 odd townhouses built on it and the DA got approved on condition of repurposing the old Lab building, and that is what the Sea Org bought into).
        I am sure they’ll get on the news when the locals realise that the approved operations plan will remain just a plan.

        Reply
    • Hallie Jane says

      November 20, 2014 at 2:12 am

      Wow that was a damning report. I thought that was a very valid point, about the dangers of mental therapy delivered by undertrained, inexperienced people. I’ve had a long time peeve about auditors not being allowed the time and care to develop into really competent people. This can’t happen under duress, rushing, exhaustion, inval/eval and starvation. The rcs took it to new levels, by getting rid of the ones who had developed some experience, in spite of everything, and putting out the robotic, 3 swing, lack of arc types. It’s so irrational to not take care of the front line people that are supposed to deliver an important, expensive product. We’re seeing the results.

      Reply
  42. Ronit says

    November 19, 2014 at 11:02 am

    Excellent article. This give a true picture of what Dear Leader is really doing with the Organization. I only hope the sheeple will open their eyes and do what LRH says to do: LOOK! DON’T LISTEN!
    Thank you Mike!

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  43. Potpie says

    November 19, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Also I see it is not complete as I started in early 1974 at a Mission in
    Anderson, Indiana. It is not on that list. I’m sure there were more small
    Missions like that not mentioned.

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      November 19, 2014 at 10:29 am

      There are NO missions on this list. This is ORGS.

      Reply
      • Potpie says

        November 19, 2014 at 10:48 am

        Then you are not looking at the same book I am.
        Dianetics Today….First Printing, 1975. In the very back pages
        there is a list of Churches and Missions. I counted 72 Missions in
        the US alone. Then Missions in Canada, South Africa, New Zealand,
        Australia, Europe, United Kingdom and Other Areas.

        Reply
        • Mike Rinder says

          November 19, 2014 at 11:00 am

          My mistake. I didnt realize you were referring to the list in Dianetics Today, I thought you were referring to the list in my post. I don’t get to see what the comment is responding to when I moderate it….

          Reply
  44. Potpie says

    November 19, 2014 at 10:14 am

    There is a Mission List in the back of Dianetics Today.
    The one I’m looking at is the first printing, 1975.
    Includes Missions from around the world.

    Reply
  45. KFrancis says

    November 19, 2014 at 10:09 am

    Oh Boy……while reading this summation of the history of the Orgs I had a vision of Muhammad Ali backing his opponent into the ropes and delivering a series of devastating blows that leaves his opponent bleeding and spent.

    When this happens all the victim can do is cover up and hope either the ring judge will step in and stop the onslaught or the bell will ring and save the unfortunate sap.

    Mike, where is your sense of mercy? You need to start pulling your punches because you are killing em !!!

    Reply
    • Cooper Kessel says

      November 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm

      There will be plenty of time for mercy but just not right now. The midget has a towel, let him throw it into the ring and then we can discuss mercy.

      Meanwhile back at the ranch …………… Tonto, not realizing the Lone Ranger was cleverly disguised as a pool table, racked his balls!

      Keep it coming Mike. And remember what Andrew Jackson said about the Brits after they sacked and burned our capital ……Don’t pull the trigger until you can see the whites of their eyes.

      Reply
      • Zephyr says

        November 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm

        🙂
        Greta

        Reply
      • Old Surfer Dude says

        November 19, 2014 at 4:21 pm

        Arrrrgggg, Coop! NO MERCY! They’re folding like a cheap suit! Every single day, people are leaving. IT IS ALL FALLING APART! Beer and hot dogs are the order of the day!

        Reply
    • cindy says

      November 19, 2014 at 7:28 pm

      Mike, keep going. Don’t pull back now. Follow through. We’ll have mercy when the evil is destroyed first. Then we can help the prisoners who come out and want a hand.

      Reply
      • KFrancis says

        November 19, 2014 at 10:48 pm

        Ok Ok……No mercy it is then !!! Ha ha…….

        Reply
  46. LDW says

    November 19, 2014 at 9:19 am

    It would be interesting to see the fate of the mission network laid out in such a simple fashion.

    I know that in Vancouver back in 1974 the org had roughly 90 staff and the mission had around 20. The number of active members in and around the Vancouver area, based on my own call in lists, was around 325.

    The mission closed shortly after the miscavige purge.

    From recent reports I’ve received, scientology in Vancouver is a wasteland with more and more quietly or loudly leaving the cult. The hangers-on are becoming increasingly miscavige-like in their attitude toward the world. While the miscavige valence is pretty good at raking in money and building attractive edifices, it simply doesn’t attract theta people (something missions did tend to do before miscavige destroyed them).

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      November 19, 2014 at 9:26 am

      Les — someone could do the comparison between the list of Missions at the back of What is Scientology? and scientology.org. But I don’t know where there are lists of missions that predate 1992?

      Reply
      • LDW says

        November 19, 2014 at 11:18 am

        At a quick glance:

        The 1975 Dianetics Today list shows 13 Missions in Canada

        The 1994 issue of the Scientology Handbook shows 2 Missions in Canada

        Four of the Missions were converted to orgs. The other 7 are simply gone.

        Reply
      • nomnom says

        November 19, 2014 at 12:52 pm

        One of your blog posts from last year had a chart with the mission data. I dug around in the archives and found it, from 15 Sept 2013,
        https://www.mikerindersblog.org/real-expansion-stats/

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  47. Sara Goldberg says

    November 19, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Thank you Mike for continuing to shine the light of truth and exposing the lies David Miscavige and his church “sock-puppets” excrete out to the media and the true believers on the Church of Scientology’s straight up and vertical expansion. In this fast paced era of the Internet and getting the news out before the competition, the media has become lazy. 24/7 news reporting has, unfortunately, limited the time journalists have to investigate and find the true facts. Media outlets too often depend on others to do their “research” and find the stories for them. Journalists, like Joe Childs of the Tampa Bay Times, who take the time to more thoroughly research their stories, are a dying breed. You are doing a great service by getting the truth out on the internet for the broad public, journalists and other media to see. And then, there are also the true believers who sometimes start scratching their heads and thinking “something just doesn’t seem right here.” That’s the beginning of the end as many of them start to ask questions and look on the Internet, gasp at what they read, and then they look some more about what Miscavige is saying and they start to see the truth – they’ve been lied to by their Dear Leader and those they trusted most in the Church. It is an awakening of sweet sorrow for them but knowing the truth from the lies is the way out of any trap. Thank you Mike for continuing to shine the light on their lies and expose the truth.

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    • Mike Rinder says

      November 19, 2014 at 9:03 am

      Thanks Sara.

      And any reader here who has contacts in the media should send this article to them and ask them to put it in the morgue files for the next time there is a scientology story so it is easy to access.

      Reply
      • Bonny says

        November 19, 2014 at 9:34 am

        By all means, send it directly to Joe Childs of the Tampa Bay Times and to each member of the Clearwater Chamber of Commerce, who are being lied to so thoroughly by the church. It should help lessen the church’s credibility and maybe Clearwater can get on with their own plans for expansion.

        Reply
        • Mike Rinder says

          November 19, 2014 at 9:49 am

          Joe no longer works at the Times — but I sent it to him already anyway. No need for anyone else to do so….

          Reply
    • Mary Jane Sterne says

      November 19, 2014 at 10:13 am

      Thank you Mike, gives me hope that my daughter will see the light someday!
      Would love to hear from you, Sara Goldberg, you inspired me to tell my story sbout my daughter. I sent you a request on Facebook…

      Reply
      • Sara Goldberg says

        November 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm

        Thanks Mary Jane. I’m very happy to hear that my speaking out inspired you to do the same. That was my purpose in doing the story: that others would too gain the courage and be inspired to stand up to and speak out against injustice. I’d love to connect with you on FB.

        Reply
  48. Heidi says

    November 19, 2014 at 8:34 am

    What about closing orgs? Isn’t the number of orgs now quite a lot less? Yes, I know you can’t find that straight from the magazine, but it’s the sort of thing I’d expect an intrepid reporter coming across this article might research. Or you know, that under-cover lurker. You, yeah, you! You’ve seen that orgs close, and here’s thirty years of evidence that they aren’t expanding. What else are you being lied to about?

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      November 19, 2014 at 8:46 am

      The closed orgs are included, did you read this?

      Reply
      • Heidi says

        November 19, 2014 at 10:06 am

        Yes, at what is 5:30 AM my time. 😉 I thought more orgs had closed than that, or am I thinking of missions?

        Reply
        • Mike Rinder says

          November 19, 2014 at 10:31 am

          You must be thinking of missions…

          VERY few orgs have ever closed, until recently.

          Reply
  49. whostolemycog says

    November 19, 2014 at 8:33 am

    Excellent work Mike…You have turned into quite the bitter defrocked apostate…

    Reply
    • Mike Rinder says

      November 19, 2014 at 8:46 am

      Don’t forget “unemployed” 🙂

      Reply
      • Zzzzzzz says

        November 19, 2014 at 5:29 pm

        And with a CofS imagined absence of tall grass and big dogs running in it which you must really miss.

        Reply
        • Mike Rinder says

          November 19, 2014 at 5:32 pm

          What I really miss is being pissed on and told its raining….

          Reply
    • Doug Parent says

      November 19, 2014 at 10:42 am

      (and on the fringe, thus nobody cares)

      Reply
      • Alanzo says

        November 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm

        …On the fringes of the grassy knoll of The Internet.

        Let’s try to be more accurate, shall we?

        Reply
      • McCarran says

        November 19, 2014 at 3:41 pm

        🙂

        Reply
  50. roger gonnet says

    November 19, 2014 at 8:29 am

    Great indeed. True, the inane great leader does apply his own patron’s rules, like never giving bad news and such.

    Reply
  51. thegman77 says

    November 19, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Great post, Mike. But don’t hold your breath waiting for the media to do anything. They no longer are concerned with reporting “Truth”, but rather “Sensation” and anything which might help sell the items they advertise. Investigative reporting is now left totally to the internet which, fortunately, is doing a terrific job.

    However, that said, simply malling posts like this one to specific media outlets will probably get them placed in their morgue files, there to be discovered by reporters for use in articles.

    Reply
    • Dave B. says

      November 20, 2014 at 12:27 am

      If the media wants “sensation” I think the facts vs. the lies the kult spews is…. sensational. Hope the media can realize they have a lot of sensational headlines here in this data.

      Reply
      • Aquamarine says

        November 20, 2014 at 1:25 pm

        Thank you very much for doing the research and connecting the dots for us, Mike. I, too am printing this out and sending it out to various print and other media. And I have some other ideas…

        Reply
  52. Chuck Beatty says

    November 19, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Thankyou, this now becomes a benchmark article to refer to in the future for the expansion of orgs (not missions) in Scientology history.

    Reply
    • McCarran says

      November 19, 2014 at 11:10 am

      Yea, I agree, a “benchmark article.” Thanks for getting the numbers down like this, Mike. Spells it out pretty straightforward. I will print out several copies to disseiminate.

      Reply
      • cindy says

        November 19, 2014 at 7:21 pm

        Thank you for this excellent report. I am glad you found the page from that Scn book showing all the orgs and did the research on the years. By using the church’s own page from their own book, it proves that you aren’t pulling numbers out of your ass like DM does. I hope all reporters come to this article before they report anything about the RCOS.

        Reply
    • barefacedmessiah says

      November 19, 2014 at 1:01 pm

      What future? Let’s hope there is none.

      Reply

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  • Anna C on The Death of Shermanspeak: “😆 lol! Merdemouth!” Mar 20, 22:55
  • Alcoboy on Stratospheric Expansion: “Right. Exactly.” Mar 20, 21:43
  • PeaceMaker on The Death of Shermanspeak: “I’d say he’s an example of how they’re losing the old-timers they have relied on – who were relatively more…” Mar 20, 20:25
  • Jere Lull on Stratospheric Expansion: “Miss Cabbage just whips some BS he knows to be false and CALLS it a “New age” of something-or-other to…” Mar 20, 19:37
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  • Jere Lull on Stratospheric Expansion: “??? They were *busted* for bringing in MORE MONEY? unbelievable. That’s what their remit was, wasn’t it?” Mar 20, 19:31
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