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A Cruise – But Not Tom

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Things may be a bit slow on the blog for the next week.

The Rinder’s, Headley’s and Smith-Levin’s are going on a cruise together starting today. On a real ship ON the crossroads of the world.

The man behind the scenes of this blog who is way smarter than me when it comes to computers and the internet, will be putting up new postings and monitoring the comments While we are crising the high seas. I have prepared posts in advance, at least one of which should keep people commenting for a while.

Depending on the ability to connect to the interwebs while on the cruise, I may chime in every now and then.

Things will be back to normal again after the 18th of March.

Here’s to a Bon Voyage.

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  1. Mike,

    Great picture. My fewer than a thousand words are an attempt to capture the message I see:
    Hubbard’s Fleecewinds vessel is 70 years old and not even worth the scrap metal she contains due to the tons of blue asbestos still inside her. She is the old and sad vessel scientologists go to supposedly ‘expand beyond infinity’ and into spiritual realms unheard of(snark) .. She never travels into deep water, but especially never to a USA port. Maybe she can comfortably handle 300 ‘visitors’ questing for spiritual slavery.

    The Ruby Princess next to the Fleecewinds is 10 years old and valued at 400 millions. She travels the world and puts in anywhere she wishes. She is a fun and stress relieving vessel that roams the ocean freely and can wine and dine 3,600 guests. Her guests debark in far better spirits than those debarking the Fleecewinds.

    The contrast is truly stark.

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  5. With 3 families I count 8 kids. That pretty much determines you will have a great time!!! Bon voyage. ???❤️

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  6. Hi David Miscavige,.,

    A few shoots out my unruly tomato stems have been whispering to me… where’s Shelley?… where’s Shelley?

    COB, I demand that you handle this immediately. I really don’t need this entheta fucking up my case.

    Thanks l’il bro!

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  7. Have a great time!

    To the man behind the blog: I’m not getting the emails anymore. I did try signing up again, but says I’m already signed up.

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  8. Have a wonderful time. I am wondering; when you are all together, enjoying your time together, what do you talk about, do you talk about Scientology, or has it all worked itself out of your system yet.

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  9. Have a GREAT time, you all deserve it!

    Cruising is my favourite kind of vacation. Hopefully the Freewinds won’t follow you…I heard the can pretty much only port in Aruba or Caruscao.

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    • Perhaps while you’re on your cruises you could ask the captain why last year alone over 1billion gallons of raw sewerage was dumped into the ocean by cruise ships? Surely there has to be a better solution!!

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  12. The best thing about your cruise? No asbestos!!!
    Can’t say the same for the Freewinds.

    Seriously though, have a truly fantastic vacation.

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  13. Mike and friends, have a great time. You will be wined and dined and get a chance to relax. You deserve it.

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  14. Yay! Mike, I am so happy to know you all are going on this much-deserved get-away together! Woo-hooo! Have fun!!!

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  16. Mike, Loving Partner, and Fantastic Friends,
    Every time I drive by the Co$ Twin Peaks Gilded Gulag this snowy season in the mountains, I’ll joyously think of you all bathing in the ocean sunshine, living free and happy, after so much hard work leading ex-sci”s and us never-ins as we fight for “Truth, Justice, and the American Way”
    You’re Supermen (and Women!) indeed!

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  20. After a decade of no vacations I took a trip to Edinburgh. Had the time of my life! I hope you and the gang get the rest you deserve.

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    • Does anyone know what is happening with Tony Ortega’s site? The whole format of it has changed (I miss the old format), and you can’t make comments on it like before. I see some comments but there is no button to reply to those comments or to make your own new comment. And he has had the same thing up for about 3 or more days. Does anyone know why this is? Is he out of town?

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  21. Forgot to mention this: we just returned from a Caribbean cruise and in Aruba, we were docked RIGHT NEXT TO THE SEA ORG! That date would have been Feb. 4th or 5th, 2019. Oh my, knowing what we all know, what an ominous looking vessel. Felt creeped out just to be near it. The lights were on, there was activity. Our cabbie told us that they dock there and go out and recruit young people from the islands.

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    • When I was in Los Angeles doing some training I knew a fellow who was quite successful financially but while he was addressing his beetees he avoided parties and public gatherings. He was concerned that someone else’s beetees might jump ship and get on board with him. I didn’t do the OT levels but I remain confident that I’m still Captain of my ship and the passengers are resting comfortably.

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      • It seems you have a bee in your bonnet about not doing the OT levels as you are starting to “buzily” buzz around on this subject.

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        • Hello Foolproof – I left Scn soon after attesting to Clear because of the monthly price increases. Lots of people believe in incorporeal conscious entities like angels, ghosts, spirit guides, ascended masters and so on. If I had stayed in Scn it’s speculation on my part if I would have accepted Hubbard’s description of body thetans. I might have given it a try. I ain’t afraid of no ghosts.

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      • I have just noticed your completely false datum about entities “jumping ship” or was it your made-up story (as I am sure the dude in question wouldn’t have apprised you of that idea would he?) Sounds a bit like the sort of silly idea that Brian might have.

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  23. Have a great time you guys! You certainly have earned it! Now, you’ll be on a REAL cruise!!! AND…nobody will be asking you for money!

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    • LOL. You know there will be PIs there, that’s the sad thing.

      COB: “Listen you @&#ing (@*@(*@er, I want to know what that @*&#&ing @&@*&er had for breakfast and I want to know NOW.”

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  25. fantastic! You all deserve and get to have fun and quality time together. The greatest revenge is to to show how you and friends are enjoying life freely and fully on that normal sized cruise ship in the above photo. Then again, maybe you are on one of those newer ones that are 47X larger than this 5-decker. Great picture to open this blog with.

    The photo also puts in perspective, for David Miscavige to see, just how tiny and aged his seaorge dingy and religion are compared with the big world of 2019. Except for one problem: He can’t see from his bunker. He is not free. He is not expanding. He has no wife. He has no children. He has no friends. All he has is his bottle and BTs.

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    • FPjr offered: “He is not free. He is not expanding. He has no wife. He has no children. He has no friends. All he has is his bottle and BTs.”

      Well, he still has hot and cold running servants and his FEARS, which were well-earned. I expect that he also has a boatload of bad Karma stalking him, likely to pounce upon him at any time, IMO sooner than later. In SCUBA training, the experts warned that going below a certain depth was equivalent to drinking a few. Heaven help the diver who thinks his body is above the laws of the physical universe and mixes drinking with lots of seawater. not that I would wish a case of the bends or drowning on the “most ethical being on the planet”®.

      Meanwhile, Rinders, Headleys and smith-Levins: ENJOY your well-deserved vacations. May the subject of scientology never arise to dampen the joy of exploring paradise. If I could, I’d be somewhere near you in our micro-yacht.

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  26. Wonderful news. You and your friends and family enjoy the well deserved holiday. If you see the MV Asbestos adrift throw them some ballast…

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  28. “Depending on the ability to connect to the interwebs while on the cruise, I may chime in every now and then.”

    Anyone who knows the word “interwebs” knows a lot more about technology than they are letting on.

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  29. Bon Voyage, all of you! I’m a cruising addict myself and I know you are in for a wonderful, relaxing time. You’ve earned it – and if you do spot some “followers”, you could always tell them “You’re Welcome that we came on this cruise – so you get to be here, too!”

    Can’t remember who said it, but – “Living well is the best revenge”

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  30. Perhaps while Mike is away some people here might like to engage in some general discussion?

    I will post some recent (brief) thoughts I have had about LRH while I read some comments here in recent posts. Please feel free to comment if you please.

    Seems to me LRH invested every single ounce of his life figuring out how to gouge and steal every penny he could from innocent victims. But it seems that he never planned what he would do with that money. As someone posted recently, he died alone living in a kind of poverty in terrible health with his body pumped full of drugs. Seems to me most anyone in his position with even half a working brain would be living in luxury in a country with no extradition, surrounded by paid professionals to care for him and pleasure him with whatever he wanted. Although … God only knows what it would have taken to pleasure that madman.

    But instead, he died like a pauper and spent his last days rewarded with exactly what he deserved. I think that bears some reflection. LRH got exactly what he deserved out of life. He got the same kind of life someone would get with no money, no friends and no loved ones. Doesn’t that seem incredible to you? It sure does seem that way to me. He died with a huge amount of money. But he died in a state in which most any pauper would die. Is that an example of good Karmic Justice? It just may be. I wonder how the Tiny Fuhrer will die.

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    • Skyler,

      The fact that Hubbard died the way he did and he never took the money and ran leads me to beleive that, in some capacity, he really did beleive that he was in need of help.

      That said, he was also always after money, but I think he truly recognized that he was mentally damaged. The fact that he was, in essence, a sociopath who was unable to break free of his shortcomings as a man, led to even more mental conflict. Although I’m sure he was a money grubbing con man, IMO he was also a broken soul who really wanted to find a way to help himself (and probably thought “to hell with everyone else”. He likely saw them as sheep/lesser beings who would beleive anything he wrote because he was soooo much better and much more brilliant than everyone else.). Regardless, his methods were obviously flawed, and like most sociopaths and psychopaths, he thought his own consequence higher than anyone else’s. I think that’s why he was so adamant that his methods were superior to anyone else’s.

      I also think his incessant writing was a form of emotional escape- if he kept busy writing, he wouldn’t have to think of all his inner demons. (This was an escapist function for him)

      Unfortunately, his writings and egomania pulled others into his orbit and validated his belief in his own importance. This also gave him the opportunity to fleece them out of their money. He was true to his own delusional thinking regarding his egotistical megalomania.

      Just my take on it.

      Kat

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      • Thank you kindly for your reply. I think you made a very interesting analysis. I posted that primarily because I’m fairly certain the Tiny Fuhrer (The Little Cabbage) reads this blog every day and I had hoped he would see his future in the way Hubbard died and decide it was time for him to get out of the con game and get some help.

        Your post helped that very much. Explaining that Hubbard was a sociopath who knew he had mental problems and needed help might just help Miss Cabbage understand he needs help too and that when he dies there will be no future for this scam. Everyone IN will breathe a huge sigh of relief and clamor to get OUT and who can blame them?

        Well done Kat.

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        • Skyler,
          I sincerely hope you’re right, but I’m kinda hoping that miscavage lives to see the day Scientology folds. And that he sees it from behind bars!

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    • OMG! WOW! Far out man! Such erudite “opinionating”! Such clear and lucid arguments! And this is really amazing from 2 people who haven’t got a clue as to what they are talking about but can post the most inane rubbish and biased opining – their skill in twisting the facts of the case in hand to present their “case” knows no bounds! I mean just look at what they did here – Hubbard obviously wasn’t that worried about his own personal luxury but they will simply ignore that and and bring in some of their “facts” to explain this. Yes, you couldn’t make it up – but they could! OMG! However, perhaps they should be apprised of some facts, as Mike pointed out, that Hubbard’s trailer was quite expensive – at least! Tut, tut – they should do some “research” before vomiting forth!

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  31. Best wishes to all of you.

    If it’s possible, consider taking some pix so you can share with us.

    It will be lonely here without you. But you certainly deserve to have as much pleasure in your lives as you can arrange.

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    • Is this what members of the Anti-Scientology Cult (not my words) do? Ask for pictures of their guru on holiday? Next you will be asking for autographs! Or has that already been done below – yep, an indirect mention of it anyway. Fame eh?

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  33. I can hear it now:

    “Oooo, ..Hello, Pardon ME but I just have to let you know that we’ve watched EVERY AFTERMATH EPISODE…..so interesting & so very informative!

    I can’t believe that COS gets away with all that. I’ve written the IRS, my Senator, & those in Washington, D.C. asking to withdraw the Tax Exemption on COS. Thank You Everyone.

    MAY I HAVE YOUR AUTOGRAPHS….I just happen to have a few of your books!!!

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  36. This is fabulous news.
    I am constantly amazed that you’re able to blog daily. It is clearly a tribute to the dwindling spiraling cherch that this is possible. Oh and your awesomeness.

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  37. The best way to say FUCK YOU to miscabbage and SCN is to live a great life free of this nasty anti-human cult and take advantage of all life has to offer. Have a great trip you guys and avail yourselves of mere mortal pleasures without fear of reprisals, at least from one sorry cult.

    Bon voyage!

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    • Mike, you do realize that that clever Munich OSA dude you put on post was a U Boat Kapitan in his former life?

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  41. I am so happy that the Rinder’s, Headley’s and the Smith-Levin’s feel comfortable enough to widely broadcast this happy vacation news, without fear of action from your former cult. Other former members aren’t as free. Happy sailing.

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    • Those are my thoughts exactly, on why and how they are able to share where, when, and with who they are going somewhere and they’re not scared for their life of being stalked and hunted down? What if there’s PI’s or other hired members on the ship with them..?

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  43. This makes me so happy. I love Heather and all you guys, love seeing the jolly fun you all have together. You SO deserve this… And it’s wonderful on many levels.

    We’re not out here recovering and having a ball discovering the real world just to say FUCK YOU to miscabbage and SCN…..but I must admit to small inner feelings of vindication and glee when I bask in the sunshine of smiles in you group photos.

    Love you all, have a wonderful time! Children’s laughter, too much good food, late nights and drinks, sand and sun and souvenirs.

    I’m so damn glad.

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    • Yes, I love the juxtapositioning of david miscavige hunkering down in his fancy digs somewhere (other than the Gold Base where his members are holed up) in fear of what “attack” is coming next or what horrible person in his vicinity will fuck up his day, all the while several people who escaped from his slimy grasp are taking children and friends they never would have had and are cruising the ocean blue.

      Bon Voyage!

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      • Mary,

        The best revenge is living well! Just knowing that miscavage will never EVER get to relax with a mixed drink in a coconut is enough to make it sweeter!

        It’s such a miracle that people who were once in the cult are able to come together as friends- and that is truly the best part of it all.

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      • Yes, Mary!

        His entire life, probably close to every waking thought is wrapped up in stats, lies, frustration, and nasty plotting. A life of constant cover-ups and looking over his shoulder.

        The peaceful clean fun of a sunny day, surrounded by warm friends who just love you and have your back, children’s giggles… All the more sweeter ..because we’ve lived in the other side… He doesn’t have that and never will.

        When you’re IN, the bonds you have are so much dependent upon the other person’s shoulder against the wheel next to yours, and their mindset in lockstep with yours and LRH. To the degree they later fall away, you pull back and leave them behind as a survival measure to protect your own path to OT.

        I feel a deeper kinship and bond now with all the EXs than I ever truly had with my fellow Scios. When I was in, I wasn’t allowed to love them despite their differences, my support and faith was decreed to be dependent upon their agreement and actions towards “source”.

        Life is now so much easier as I cultivate humanity.

        Happy day to you, sweet lady.

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  44. That’s fantastic!!! Have a blast and enjoy.
    Thanks to each of the families mentioned above for sharing your stories.

    Have a blast!

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  48. Have a great time. I would say you all collectively know more about computers than the entire main body of Scientology after watching Aaron Smith’s video about their lame attempt to send him to the Clearwater police.

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    • Yes, computers are a great thing! One can sit down and mock up a completely made-up story and call Hubbard Lucifer and all that and call it “New OT8”! Or even worse receive this as an April Fool’s joke and believe it! And then to “prove” the validity of such one can believe the dude that “found” the supposedly most confidential document in Scientology history in run-of-the-mill OSA files and wonder “how did that get there? Surely if it was the real OT8 this should not be sitting in office filing cabinets off Hollywood Boulevard? Surely not?”

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