Read the article and attached documents on Tony Ortega’s site this evening.
There are a series of declarations that tell a lot of the real story of the state of radical Scientology.
Some weeks ago I said that I would post some things from LRH here for people to contemplate as there are some who read and post on this blog that seem to believe that LRH was flawless and that the aberration that is the church of Scientology today is entirely created by others.
You will see in my declaration that was filed today that I cited some little known LRH references that may surprise some readers of this blog. It’s not all sweetness and light and “My Philosophy”. People no doubt will still try to justify that they are “misapplied” and “taken out of context.” I ask that you simply read them for what they are and compare what has been reported about the activities taken against the Rathbuns. This IS the “tech” that is being applied.
There is a lot of reading.
But for those who want an inside look at life at the top of the Scientology world, it is fascinating and perhaps a bit shocking.
I can attest to virtually everything that is written by all of the other declarants except Bert Leahy (as I was not there — but his account matches everything I know and have experienced). This is not pie in the sky or exaggerations.
If you honestly care about the subject, read everything that is posted on Tony’s site.
Thanks Philip.
I have always decided what is true and what is false based upon my own observation…not based upon what Ron says. Not based upon what you say. Not based upon what Mike, Marty, or anyone else says. However, I do observe and I do listen with the intention of finding out what is true for me.
I hope that you can find a way to START making “progress on understanding LRH” soon, but unfortunately I pick up that you are not very interested in that.
As with delving into any subject it requires honest interest and a willingness to understand without pre-conceptions or prejudice. I hope that you can find a way to examine some of the philosophy and practices of Scientology for the purpose of finding out whether or not they might be useful to YOU. Possibly you will find that they are helpful to you personally in your life. Or possibly not. But at least you will have then taken an honest look.
All I ever wanted to do in Scn is audit people and get up both sides of the bridge, to relieve suffering and makes spiritual gains. Never in a million years would I ever condone this weird man wasting the time of so many decent SO staff, recording all his stupid words and orders. What a wanker. Such a waste of so much talent, that would have been better spent actually applying Scn, to benefit someone.
In my opinion some of the 60s generation, Scientologists, many countercultures, Jonestowners found out (the Christians knew this): Upotia was not possible in this world on a large scale. Seeking to establish utopia produces totalitarian domination.
The idea of god worship (anything but a human) was a good idea (even if not logically sound and has room for argument beyond the scope of this comment) because worship of a man or a fixed idea (or identity) can result in a deindividuation of people. Once dehumanized Our Glorious Leader can get people to exploit and abuse each other.
This was why Christianity survived thousands of bloody years. Yes it set itself up as royalty, and sometimes tyranny, but it set God above the Kings of the world (OTs, those of great influence, make your own phrase). The church provided a moral compass because those with power, wealth and influence have no morality, only ethics. The money-power addict often ignored it; hence, welcome to Earth.
Hubbard said the subject was workable and it was; it was never perfect. The problem with him was that he was elevated to unquestioned human god by his sycophants. It then affected the enfant terrible. And after seeing these affidavits has possibly regressed into the terrible threes.
Hi Mike, i started reading at Tony’s. Wow! Boom, Boom , Boom , Boom one veteran Sea Org member after another with detailed reports. This is a hell of a record of events and Miscavige’s responsibility. Thank you to all for your Courage, confront and integrity. Thank you for reporting what you witnessed. It is really amazing to have all the reports in one place like that. Another word for all who wrote and Marty and Mosey-competence. I hope Debbie Cook is reading this too.
Wow, wow, wow, Mike. I just finished reading it all in a nice relaxing evening at home in beautiful Laguna Hills, California. Nothing like seeing that piece of shit David Miscavige so thoroughly dismantled by the very people he sought to ruin utterly.
I know that I’ll be swingin’ that 20 lb. sledgehammer with some extra gusto at work tomorrow just thinking about ‘ol Dave…
Great to see you are making progress towards accepting the truth about LRH. Keep at it to the end.
If I were the cynical type 😉 I would say the same for you. I suspect you never met him, and may not know much about his life or his work. Anyone who is black or white on the subject of L. Ron Hubbard is almost certainly uninformed. It is a fundamentalist view at both ends of the spectrum — infallible God or enormous charlatan. He was neither, or both.
Funny to see those COS issues again. Particularly the ones that relate to GO activities in the 70’s. They used to show them off proudly to some people to show that they were “tough” and following LRH’s instructions. I thought that the definitions of a “secret operation” as opposed to a “covert operation” were interesting. Sounded kind of exciting in a cloak and dagger sort of way. I also thought that, while these were activities that many corporate and government organizations probably engaged in, they seemed very inappropriate and misguided for a religious organization. And, like many others, I then ignored it and continued to study and apply the many valuable and beneficial parts of the subject. I did think that Ron was making a mistake handling things in that manner. But then again I never thought he was God or worshiped him either. I thought of him as a very intelligent, good-hearted, larger-than-life person with who once in a while might screw up and then have a hard time admitting it. So, this wasn’t shocking to me.
However, It is just shame that it is so completely predictable how DM will seize upon any questionable or destructive LRH policy, phrase, etc. and turn it into a new mantra or battle cry. And if he can’t find one he will invent one. What a sick puppy he is.
So, basically lies and subterfuge plus criminal actions were advised in order to protect LRH’s name and person and, indeed, throughout the years have been carried out.
DM is then, just “following Policy”…however, DM’s abuses and cruelty are his own doing, his extortion of money from parishioners is his own action, the nullification and domination of all Sea Org personnel is his ‘command intention’ and so on.
LRH wrote that, but the real sociopath -DM- is using it to amplify his criminality and his intention to destroy.
LRH did built something of real value – the applied philosophy that is a workable one and, that alone, is a huge difference between him and DM; in fact there is no comparison.
To say he is ‘following Policy’ is just simply a justification and this does not makes his abuses and crimes any less than what they really are and have been.
LRH built nothing of value. He just cobbled together some stuff that can trick and trap people and has built-in mechanisms which make it incredibly hard for them to face up to the reality that they have been tricked. He is the cause of both his own abuses and DM’s abuses.
Good points, Silvia. And to say Miscavage was just “following policy” is like the Nazi war trials where his highest Nazi henchmen said, “I was just following orders.” The difference between Miscavage and LRH is intention. LRH’s intention was good and was to help others (and yes I know he had his own case, temper, paranoia, and vindictiveness), but overall he did more good than harm. LRH left us a good legacy of tech that is workable and has helped and improved conditions.
Miscavage on the other hand, has the intention to destroy, bully and degrade all who come into contact with him, and certainly to destroy the religion. Destruction in the name of help is even more of a betrayal, and that will be David Miscavage’s legacy to mankind. He will join Hitler, Napoleon, Macheavelo and Torquemada and other SP’s on the heap of vilified and hated miscreants. Miscavage is a study into the mind of the sociopath and psychopath.
Mike,
We both know that this “tech” is covered in the Justice Manual and later issued in various directives written for the GO.
No sweetness and light there. That’s for sure!
Ron was not Mr. Nice Guy when dealing with those he considered enemies to Scientology.
As he says he could make Bly seem like a Sunday School Teacher.
In other words you wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of the Ol’man.
That said much of this “tech” he probably learned and adapted to Scientology from his service in the Office of Naval Intelligence and probably from attending the Princeton School of Government a cover operation run by Britain’s SIS AKA MI6 probably under the careful tutelage of the man known as “Intrepid” Bill Stephenson plus his partner in crime Ian Fleming (which could explain Ron’s penchant for his books and why he called the WFMH Smersh and lamented his passing in a lecture to Saint Hill Students) which was sponsored by OIC (Office of Information Coordination) later to become famous as the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) under Wild Bill Donovan which had nothing really to do with Government and more to do with tradecraft and running covert ops.
(However I doubt if you’ll see an edition of the Ron Series entitled Ron the Spy which is too bad because I’m sure it would be a fun read 🙂 )
Much as he adapted the Sea Org from the time he led expeditions for the Explorers Club which is the address he used on his last will and testament.
Mike don’t ever get the impression that all of us are shrinking violets and that you have to patronize us.
That said there are also those who over emphasize and read what Ron says out of context like you know who. You know the low IQ moron who actually spat on someone because Ron mentioned it in a policy letter. Though I’m sure he meant it figuratively there are those idiots who take whatever the Ol’man says literally and try to apply it exactly as written. Like making sure those pink legs are sticking out exactly right as per the Responsibility of Leaders or whatever.
(BTW has anyone seen Shelly?
Hopefully Scientology’s Dope isn’t *that* literal!!)
I say so what!
At the time he was fighting a SPECTRE like Fascist enemy remember “A Working Theory” with lots of blood on their hands running secret torture chambers NKA “Black Sites” and seeking ways to mentally manipulate and control the “masses” using pain, drugs and hypnosis along with other “non-lethal” means.
Probably it would have been better to just apply the Tech per the HCOPL Attacks on Scn instead of writing one (cont) and let god sort ’em out.
Yeah I tried to convince my colleagues in the GO that this might be a better way but they wanted to play the “great game” and playing that game was what finally did ’em in.
As Kipling’s character Hurree Babu said in Chapter 12 “When everyone is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before.”
Moving on.
It’s good to see you’ve got that weasel Miscavige on the run 🙂
Does my heart good to see that his sorry ass will likely be dragged into court kicking and screaming and we’ll be treated to another court room episode of the mindless idiot trying to answer questions through his counsel.
I can’t wait!
Will you post a transcript?
That in itself would be a fun read.
As always I love what you’re doing Mike and though we may disagree at times I’m glad you are here with us.
I know you lost your family and all that when you stood on your principles but consider me one of the family even though I may be more like an obnoxious know it all brother 🙂
Anyhoo
Love ya man and let’s do lunch some time.
LR
No, Ron was never in “Naval Intelligence” (he had a couple disastrous outings in the Navy, attacking an underwater patch of iron ore and a Mexican island, before being relieved of any substantive duty and spending the rest of the war whining about hypochondriac illnesses) or “Princeton School of Government” (he did attempt to attend college once but flunked out) nor did he lead any expeditions for the Explorer’s Club (he like to sit there and tell tall tales, but his biggest expedition was dragging Polly up to Alaska and getting stuck there)
You’re speaking from ignorance, Robert. Apparently a graduate of the School of Russell Miller.
Ron was definitely in Naval Intelligence (was specifically involved in counter-intelligence for the US Navy), injured his eyes in the South Pacific (minimally) and was also flown home from there in one of the planes used by the Secretary of Navy’s Office. All very easy to document (and documented at http://scientologymyths.com/hubbardww2.htm ).
Ron’s Alaskan Radio Expedition did carry the Explorer’s Club flag, and the results were also used in the re-writing of the Navy’s Hydrographic books of the region (documented in his Navy records).
I have deleted this along with several other posts about this subject of LRH’s life as it is off topic and probably deserves its own blog.
As I responded to this subject earlier — neither the Hubbard was a God nor the Hubbard was a Monster camps are right. But I do not want to turn this blog into a debate about this issue.
Just so you know you are not being discriminated against and to inform others whose posts have been “moderated” (?) into the ether. Don’t bother putting a lot of time and effort into this subject right now.
Mike
Actually Marg’s response beats mine as being more concise and precise than mine.
So I have no upset with being “moderated” 😉
Mike, I can’t thank you enough. All the declarations are powerful, yours in particular. Reading them is time very well spent. Also like eating a full course meal, then feeling that life will be much better.
Thank you.
As bad as COBsucker is….it is the people around him that give him power.
If when he screamed no one reacted or did his bidding, he would be a pretty sad little dictator. Instead those fine Thetans that are milling about him trying to suckle at his tit are as much to blame if not more for enabling him.
I’m only into the third declaration so far, but I can tell you that if Judge Waldrip reads these things, there is no way he would prevent discovery being done on Miscavige’s motion.
This is like reading declarations from Hitler’s personal staff about what went on in the Nazi War Room. This is freaky stuff.
If for no other reason than to give Miscavige a shot at redeeming himself and having his own say against these shocking allegations, he MUST get Miscavige deposed. If I were innocent of such charges and I had this many declarations of this magnitude aimed against me, I’d be begging for my day in court to have my say. So I’m sure if Miscavige resists being deposed, Waldrip is going to absolutely know that Miscavige is trying to hide out from the court and he’ll insist on the deposition.
All of which works is in Mosey’s favor.
I fear that these affidavits suggest that no one else will get out of the hole (for fear of more affidavits) until such time as the Feds go in to get them out.
I also share that thought Science Doc. What about we make up flyers to dump over Int saying things like “You can escape. Cal 1-80-800_____ (what was that number again, Chuck Beatty). The Bridge and freedom exists now outside the church. Get out while you can with our help.”
And some of the prisoners will hide one or two flyers up their sleeves and may manage to call. We would have to be ready with a car to whisk them away or instructions on the phone to help them escape.
Mike, your affidavit in the case is simply stunning. I do so hope you write your own memoir some day, if you’re not already working on it.
This is a gripping study of the criminal mind at work, an inside look at a megalomaniacal dictator whose engine runs on fear and hate.
All the statements are knock-your-socks-off powerful. And there are too many of them and too many verifiable cross-references for His Oiliness to chock it up to “The Lunatic Posse” blah blah blah. (Of course, you know he’ll try – because he’s a one trick pony.)
But I have to say, what you wrote and the way you broke it down so clearly for the court really seals the deal.
Thank you for pointing out the LRH policy as well – the original crack in the windshield that lead to this wreckage of shattered lives and spirits and souls.
What hell all of you who gave statements have been through. You must all wake up every morning and whatever else is going on in your life, give thanks that you are out of that insanity!
Peace.
You must all wake up every morning and whatever else is going on in your life, give thanks that you are out of that insanity!
True that.
Mike, thank you and Marty and all who wrote depositions which forge such a powerful picture of what went on. These are the few voices in the wilderness who mustered the courage to speak up against cruel tyrrany and pure evil. This is as big as stopping Hitler. Thank you.
I agree. Mike you are an incredible writer and thinker and your book would be read. At some point I really hope you decide to write one.
Check Mate
+1
We in RTC hasten to point out that both this blog and Tony Ortega’s blog sit high atop COB’s List of Banned Criminal Blogs.
All real Scientologists are, at this very moment, in their local Ideal Org enjoying GAT II auditing on the Ultra Mark VIII e-meter. The combo of GAT II auditing and the Mark VIII blows charge so quickly that it has caused fires:
http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/12/03/new-e-meter-fleet-grounded-due-to-battery-overheating-fires/
That is VERY funny Jeff. 🙂 Very.
Incredible write-up Mike. That is one for the ages and will become a historical document.
What a chilling indictment on the “cob”. A true psychopath.
If they made a movie out of this I am not sure people would believe it. I do.
Thanks for all you do to stop this insane mad man.
I actually read all the books like “A Piece of Blue Sky”, “Messiah or Madman”, etc, before I ever went into an Org. Even though I took most of the data in those books with a grain of salt, I did have the concept that seemes to fit to this day that LRH could have a “bad temper”, possibly leaving the occasional person a bit too singed around the edges. I’, certain that an examination in present time of all his words and writings and actions will not meet everyones standards. I guess I just dont get the point. There is no such person. Maybe some people thought he was or is a perfect being, simmilar to how Jesus or “God” is promoted in some religions? I don’t know who did that, but I can see alot of that came from Miscavige and the Church after LRH died. I think he built up his image so he could use it’s power the way priests have for ages. LRH is the Sun God and Miscavige is the Mayan priest.
Tell Paulette Cooper, Chris, that this violence came after LRH died. Have you ever read ‘The Responsibility of Leaders’?
“Ruin utterly, the bravery of using vicious and incompetent men to destroy others, advising juniors to murder enemies and don’t bother the “power” with the details! PINK LEGS OF A DEAD WOMEN! These are paraphrased words of L Ron Hubbard: Source
And it is this philosophy of tyranny that faces Mike and Marty and anyone else who dares to challenge the power of Scientology. From Ron and DM.
Miscavige is the vicious and incompetent hound LRH praises as the perfect characteristic to destroy enemies. In this regard you can say the tech worked. The Old Man got what he asked for.
Sure, Miscavige is a Caligula type Caesar. A madman with the philosophy of justified violence ala Bolivar and fair game is like throwing blood in the water to attract the sharks.
I wonder if this post will be considered relevant and on topic?
Brian,
A couple days ago, you said something to the affect that “Christianity survived because of one thing: Love.”
Sorry to rain on your little fairy tale, but a large part of why Christianity survived was because psychopaths took charge, laid down the law (today’s accepted Bible) and the Church became ruthless and controlling. And do you know how easy it was to justify the ruthlessness? As easy as pointing to quotes of Jesus saying “Do not think I have come here for peace. I come with a sword!” And just as easily they could give examples of Jesus’ violence and anger in the temple.
Yes, at the center of Christianity is love. And forgiveness. And a desire for spiritual freedom. But if you are looking for them, you can also find justifications for evil and cruelty in Christianity too — straight from the source. In fact, you can do the same with Buddhism and Hinduism.
And Scientology too. As you have just done.
In the year 150 there were approx 100,000 Christians. By the year 350 there were 33 million. In the Roman empire there were 60 million people at that time.
Chrisrtianity took over the Roman empire before crusades, before popes, before Constantine.
Rodney Stark, an agnostic social scientist has many books on the subject. Yes indeed there were many bad eggs in Rome after Constantines active cause of the demise of the last vestiges of paganism.
And yes Christianity has blood on it’s historical hands. But, as Rodney Stark has chronicled, there has been two Christianities: the power church and the piety church.
The spirit of Saint Francis, Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King etc are examples of the power of love. And it is love that is the essential spirit and teaching of the true disciples of Christ.
It is the good in Christianity that has kept it alive. I am not a Christian. I am a Yogi. So I have no dog in this hunt.
How did Christianity take over the Roman empire before Popes, before Constantine?
Check out some books by Rodney Stark. It was love and love alone.
Howdy Margaret, here is a link for Mr. Stark and his works:
http://www.baylorisr.org/about-isr/rodney-stark/
Brian,
The point is that Jesus’ own words and actions were (and still can be) used to justify the atrocities. So is Jesus to blame? Was Jesus the Satan on Earth that you seem to think LRH was? One man’s mean streak (Jesus’) gets a pass, but Hubbard’s gets a condemnation? You might want to self-inspect the very obvious double standard that keeps popping up in your comments.
If you think that Christ wanted to kill people by swords and that was his teaching than the discussion is hopless Margaret.
Ron actually orchestrated violence and create a paramilitary organization to perpetrate vilolence. That was his intention.
The GO was not a misinterpretation of Ron. People killing in the name of Christ was.
Big difference Margaret
Paraphrasing isn’t helpful.
The tech STILL works.
If the tech works “Ron says” it is because truth was found and applied. But we are not talking about those elements in Scientology, truths of life which no man is author of, that help people. We are talking about the darker side of Ron’s world view.
That view which considered itself above the laws of decency (“we are not moralists) to accomplish Ron’s stated purpose, in writing, of planetary take over-demonization of opposition-and personal destruction of anyone disagreeing with Ron.
It is that fatal denial, of holding and honoring higher standards of decency that is now “the source” of this mess. It is the teaching of elitist authoritarianism and tyranical dealings with dissent that society at large so easily can see.
But if a person has been trained to denounce dissent and criticism then the enemy will always be dissenters and those who have the right and courage to step up and speak for the common good.
I read most of it. I was truly shocked. Way beyond the big books this year shocked.
TY for the truth of your deposition.
TY for acknowledging the Hubbard was not a saint. I know you have done that in the past. TY again.
Thank you Mike Rinder!!! Great post again! Having a hard time reading the dox on Scribed….how do you read it?
If you have an iPad, I find it easiest to download the PDF a and read in iBooks, it is a PDF so downloading it to any ODF reader makes it an easier go.
Thank you, Mike Rinder, and all those who filed their affidavits. This has to be difficult to write down much less file in a court. I imagine it will hard for some to read as well. I hope all concerned will remember that what matters is simple and honest. A whole new generation of very young shiny faces waving tiny hands and learning first words are depending on every one of us to help dismantle a group that is abusing others and would do the same to our children and grandchildren without hesitation what has been done for decades and is still happening today.
There are very few that I have ever known that stepped into this ring for status or flying through walls, although I confess reading minds would have been fun for a day or two. I go back to days of learning from those who were engaged in the early 1960’s Dianetics and since have known or met thousands thru all sorts of eras and crisis. There were objections and efforts to make changes back then and even earlier. Most of us just wanted to make life a little easier and happier for ourselves and our family. It’s not that complicated. When it gets too complicated and causes more harm than good, it’s time for a change. When the diaper get stinky, you don’t sit around for decades debating who or why otherwise it can lead to a fatal end. You just make the change.
All the affidavits add up to a very powerful and united message. Scientology in it’s current state will not change and it almost all harmful. The only recourse is to dismantle the remains. Above all, I hope every family will be reunited within the year. What good is a certificate on the wall or a trophy on the Christmas mantle if they replaced the family albums? Thank you again. Best wishes for a truly spiritual holiday this season where we can all join together to do what we all wanted in the first place: good will and peace on earth.
“Above all, I hope every family will be reunited within the year. What good is a certificate on the wall or a trophy on the Christmas mantle if they replaced the family albums? Thank you again. Best wishes for a truly spiritual holiday this season where we can all join together to do what we all wanted in the first place: good will and peace on earth.”
Amen to that, HolyCash. Amen
Thank you, Mike!
Heading to Ortega’s site now to have a read.
It is always good to get more viewpoints on a subject.
Missing data is the biggest cause of confusions that I’m aware of.
Desire Justice.
So very revealing and informative. I hope Miscavige is reading it all along with us…especially the document that you submitted. Heck, all of it actually!
Thank you, again, Mike.