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Something Can Be Done About It
May 31, 2019 By Mike Rinder 53 Comments
The first says, “Don’t report me.” The other replies, “I won’t.” Not so. She will be caught on a withhold on her next security check and will not only *have* to give up her friend but will also be punished for not reporting the incident.
There is NO WINNING in scio!!!
RB nails it again. It’s like tragi-comedy. Sad but true!!! Brilliant writing
This reminds me of when I realized that maybe, just maybe, I should complete my total disassociation with Scn. My wife and I (both ex-SO) were pregnant with our first. One of the first conversations we had was about how, under absolutely NO circumstances, was our child EVER going to join the SO as a minor—PERIOD. We had both lived through that hell ourselves. We made a pact that it didn’t matter what kind of pressure got put on us, we would never waiver on that. Shortly thereafter, we started questioning our involvement in a group we felt the need to protect our children from.
The rest, as they say, is history. 😃
Sarah Blodgett says
Thank goddess you woke up!
Very good comic! The best humor comes from tragedy.
Xenu's Son says
Thanks for this week’s cartoon. It goes into the collection.
“I think that if you Know How To Know, you don’t need to go to any high school or university but I’m pretty sure that I still don’t know how to Know How To Know.”
I’m at my desk chuckling quietly and somewhat maniacally while my staff cast discreet side glances my way before quickly averting their eyes.
You’re the best, RB 🙂
Old Surfer Dude says
I know how to know. But I did commit a know, know.
I committed a blow, blow in slo-mo.
Gee, I wish I could have seen that! I mean, two blows in slo-mo. Good thing nobody saw you.
Kat LaRue says
This perfectly illustrates the prison that the sea org really is. Some of these people dont ever have a chance- they are born into it or they are dragged in by their families before they ever have a chance of a normal life. Its really sad.
I feel sorry for these ladies. It’s a very difficult thing when you are young to visualize your older self and realize that getting old is something that you really want to do.
So many young people look at the elderly and consider them to be unfortunate because of their age. They seem to think there is something undesirable about achieving old age.
It’s often extremely difficult for young people to realize that growing old is actually the best of many unpleasant alternatives. There are many alternatives to growing old and – sad to say – all of them are a big shit sandwich.
But the very worst thing about getting old manifests itself if you happened to have signed up for membership in the scam because if you do, your old age is filled with nothing but poverty, misery, hard labor and extreme regret.
If I may be so bold as to offer some general advice, it would be, “Do your children a great big favor and teach them that avoid having anything to do with this scam may be the single most important life lesson there is.”
Staying away from the scam is one of the biggest requisite factors for a happy old age. This is something that all young people desperately need to learn.
Skyler, the cult operates on the stable datum of “usefulness”. An individual is as good as he or she is useful. A rich, generous, elderly, crippled, mentally disabled Scientologist is useful. A poor, young, ignorant, healthy, energetic Scientologist wiling to work his or her guts out for the cult is useful. ANY Scientologist asking inconvenient or embarrassing questions is NOT useful. You can have plenty of money but if you refuse to donate it to the cult they’ll get rid of you. You can be young and strong and healthy and hardworking but if you have an accident one day and can’t work anymore the cult will get rid of you. The worst fate to a Scientologist is to be considered of no use.
“The worst fate to a Scientologist is to be considered of no use.” Kind of like the cult.
jere lull (38years recovering) says
Scribe observed:”“The worst fate to a Scientologist is to be considered of no use.” Kind of like the cult.”
Scribe, that IS the cult in a nut shell.
When you say, ” You can have plenty of money but if you refuse to donate it to the cult they’ll get rid of you”, I think it may be important to say that although they will get rid of you, they won’t do that until they get all of your money.
I posted this because some people who have never been in this scam who may feel trapped, might just think that all they have to do to escape is to refuse to donate any more money. Is that really true? I would think they will get rid of you for sure – but only after they find a way to browbeat you into giving them your money first.
A common technique they use is “tag-teaming”. They send 2 or 3 people to your home and talk at you non-stop trying to convince you how wonderful your life will become if you buy a bunch of their insane courses (prepaid of course). You may scoff at this thinking you can just continue to refuse. But after about 12 hours of this, they switch out those 2 or 3 people and bring in 2 or 3 new people who are feeling fresh while you really need some sleep.
They continue this tag-teaming until you are willing to do anything if only they will let you sleep and eventually, you are happy to give them all your money and to go into debt to the maximum and give them that money too. You will sell your home and cash in all your savings plans. After being sleep-deprived for 48 or 72 hours, you will do anything at all to get some sleep.
I just want to make this clear to anyone who may have any doubt that there is some easy way to escape this scam. There is a way. But it sure ain’t easy.
Anyone who wants some inspiration should read how Mike Rinder or the Headlys or many others who risked life and limb – just to get away.
Skyler said,”I think it may be important to say that although they will get rid of you, they won’t do that until they get all of your money.”
No, I refused to give them money. They stopped bothering me when I threw a reg physically off my property. They got no more money.
I just wish you had made a video of the experience. It would have given so many of us such great happiness.
Carl P says
I remember the time I was being REg’d at Flag by two. This went on for hours with them positioned between me and the only door to get out. I eventually couldn’t take it anymore, refused to give any money and was about to fall asleep. At that point I announced that I was going to stand up and walk out. I then warned them to make sure I was not touched as I did so. I did it in a tone that made them understand that severe physical damage was in store. I stood up and walked out as they sat still. They are actually a bunch of panty-waisted dilettantes pretending to be tough Tigers.
To be fair, “young age” is also filled with hard labour in scn.
Scn is like a corporation: you are either earning them money, or costing them money. Once you fall into the second category, they boot you out. Its the same in the “wog world”. Scientology says its better han the wog world, but there’s no difference.
Most corporations recognize that giving retirement benefits promotes loyalty, and helps with recruiting good people. SCN is a model of mismanagement – were is a corporation, it would be out of business by now.
“Most corporations recognize that giving retirement benefits promotes loyalty, and helps with recruiting good people. SCN is a model of mismanagement – were is a corporation, it would be out of business by now.”
IMO, it IS out of business, though inertia’s still propping its walls up. There’s no one DOing scn, no one going out and grabbing in folks from the street and getting them onto services, no one applying what actually works (after a fashion).
omegapaladin, the VAST percentage of companies do NOT give retirement pay. Maybe 50 years ago but not now.
Here in Aus it’s compulsory for employers to make contributions to employees Superannuation Fund with each pay. That doesn’t happen in US?
I’m guessing that would be the equivalent to retirement pay?
Forgive me if I’m wrong…
Skyler opined:”I feel sorry for these ladies. It’s a very difficult thing when you are young to visualize your older self and realize that getting old is something that you really want to do.”
Good point. There’s that one thing worse than getting old and too creaky,as I am. Some days it’s not a bad idea to take stock and enjoy what yo can now.
I just recently realized I was truly “PTS to the middle class”. feels GOOD to be comfortably middle-class and retired! better than when I was PTS to Flog.
I Yawnalot says
Oh boy, poignant stuff RB. Scientology, especially the SO, is the very essence of heart wrenching loneliness & regret. That’s one of the more brutal contradictions woven into the fabric of Scientology and makes it a true anti-life cult. They preach the use of the 8 Dynamics (greatest good for the greatest number etc) as the most important urges of life to understand & live by yet promptly deny them to the very people that invest their lives believing they are helping mankind. The image of that smiling SS trooper handing a doll back to a young Jewish girl comes to mind again.
To those that have never been in Scientology, but are trying to understand it as they follow it on social media – try to come to terms with handing over a young child, who knows nothing of life, except it’s fun and has complete unquestioning trust of their parents over to an organization composed of such mental & physically restraining brutality hiding in those fancy ornate buildings, preaching the virtues of how they are going to save all mankind from itself. Understand the consequences of that and you truly understand Scientology. If it doesn’t make you physically sick, you don’t understand Scientology yet, or there’s something seriously wrong with you.
Nice comment, Yawn. My opinion of you is shifting… favorably.
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Monday June 3RD………..AT 9 pm Investigation Discovery
Thank you Balletlady. I appreciate you posting this. I wouldn’t have known otherwise.
You are so well Skyler my dear friend….a few decades ago I knew a girl whose parents were into this “communal hippie style living arrangement…free love, helping the world (sounds like COS)…..the KIDS were sexually assaulted….expected to participate willingly in sex with grown adults…. she was raped staring at age 11. She left as soon as she was able to do so, she STILL has to go to therapy as she has PTSD.
the possibility exists that OTHER CULTS will also come into view as well….I sure as HELL hope that Investigation Discovery also goes into COS.
Zee Moo says
All too sad, and all too real. I really wonder if the Borg can be that honest with each other?
Zee Moo queried:”All too sad, and all too real. I really wonder if the Borg can be that honest with each other?”
Short answer: No. Similarly few can rarely be that honest to themselves. Those who CAN are likely to soon out here with us IF they get any chance to do so. That’s why I am SO happy the Aftermath Foundation has been established and that it immediately had some effectiveness; enough that OSA felt the need to try to infiltrate and sabotage it. Sorry if I toot the Foundation’s horn often enough to sound like a shill, but it’s something I REALLY am happy about. Wish I could do more, dangit
Ammo Alamo says
Very sad, very poignant, especially the part about having/not having a home to come home to. That lack of a home, that homelessness while having a “berth” is one of the least discussed aspects of being in the SO. It must have a serious affect on SO members – not having a home, a private space where you can be yourself, room for your “stuff”, your toys , your family album, photos on the wall, trinkets and mementos of birthdays, holidays, and vacations, maybe a place for a cat or dog or fish tank or hobby. You don’t have a place to close the door on the world outside and decompress. I suppose when you work such long hours in the SO, when you have to get approval for any time off, when you exist under the pressure of Thursday stats and “saving the planet” then time for reflecting on a home, or lack of a home, just doesn’t happen.
Homelessness rips the heart out of any sense of stability. Just like so many street homeless in the U.S. one day you live in minimal accommodations, the next you are uprooted and forced to move, taking almost nothing with you. It is not something that creates a foundation for growth as a person or in employment. Coupled with the precarious nature of the SO, where one exists within the Org at the whim of an ignorant, angry and vengeful COB, the lack of a home could be why so many in the SO seem to be so angry at the world they live in.
Chris Shugart says
I was just about the age of the little girl in this video when Brian Wilson’s song “In My Room” was a top 40 hit in Oct 63. I was only eight, but I totally got it.
There’s a world where I can go
And tell my secrets to
In my room
In my room
In this world I lock out
All my worries and my fears
In my room
In my room
Do my dreaming and my scheming
Lie awake and pray
Do my crying and my sighing
Laugh at yesterday
Now it’s dark and I’m alone
But I won’t be afraid
In my room
In my room
When things got hectic or frustrating in our house my brother and I would spontaneously break out into the chorus from the popular 1965 Animals song called
We Gotta Get Out of This Place.
We gotta get out of this place
If it’s the last thing we ever do
We gotta get out of this place
’cause girl, there’s a better life for me and you
We had no good reason to complain. Compared to 98% of the world we had a great life – intact family of mother, father, siblings, and the ever-lovable family dog. Good schools within walking distance. We had the freedom to walk anywhere in safety, or take the bus to visit the thriving downtown. Within a block of the house there was a corner market, bakery, diner, five and dime, barbershop, and even a neighborhood movie theater. We had after-school work and sports. Though not rich, we owned one of everything a kid of that era wanted or needed. It was the Baby Boom, and life was booming!
But… We had made it through a little thing called the Cuban Missile Crisis. We learned our house was near Ground Zero for a SAC nuclear bomber base, a prime target for a first strike. Our choice was to stay put and go up in the fireball, or flee and die horribly a week later from radiation poisoning. We put some canned goods and water in the basement and pretended we had no worries. I think that genuine threat of a nuclear exchange during the 50s and 60s made us all a little crazy.
AS a never-in what can I say?
Well…you can say that you’ve never been in. Old
“AS a never-in what can I say?”
Maybe, “There but for the Grace of God …”
COB’s stats. What are they exactly?
Number of staff berated, abused or beaten?
Number of new buildings?
Number of glasses of alcohol per night?
Number of wives disappeared?
Number of family members spied on or attacked?
Number of square feet of personal accommodations?
Number of vacation days on the Fleecewinds?
Number of times his sister is busted for drugs?
Number of members bankrupt and destitute?
If so, guess he’s in affluence. Too bad no one else is…..
Just what the fuck IS the diminutive midget’s actual stats?
Its quantity of shit deposited on His shingle. Dave is always an upstat in His own department.
His actual stats is alcohol intake.
He’s also going into the Guinness Book of World Records for the greatest amount of Scotch consumed by an ecclesiastical leader in a single day.
Been there done that…
“Number of glasses of alcohol per night?”
instead?: # of BOTTLES?? he strikes me as flaming alcoholic.
Add: # of ‘his’ slaves who “see the light” and blow. He might count that a negative syat, but he’s keeping it, and it’s still going up.
Scott H says
Brutal RB, just brutal.
I remember “family time” at the Cincinnati Org. It was that time of day around 4:00PM when the CO and Reg went home for a couple of hours. A sense of calm came over the org and you could get some things done instead of always waiting for the next shoe to drop. Now that I think about it, that was a very stressful environment.
Franks Bogvad Sonenfild Ronbots says
I also went to that Morgue. I vaguely recall you there Sir R. I do recall it was pretty dead Org. I remember a guy Ken Jacobson. I recall the guy was a normal, nice person and the ED, Jeannie Franks Bogvad Sonenfild, kept him coming back for YEARS doing “expanded dianetics” and he spent his entire savings on that auditing. It was around $500,000. The cult took everything he had. I was so upset about it I could not go in there again. Then Ken Jacobson went to ASHO and they told him he was “overrun”. Fucking cult! They ripped him off completely. I can’t believe that wicked Jeannie and her nasty piece of work 2-D is still ripping people off and drinking the koolaid.
Good luck in prison girls.
Ummmmm….what kind of girls are they?
Only in Scientology do people have total certainty that they KNOW when, in fact, they don’t have a fucking clue.
Only when you leave and have the guts to look will you really KNOW.
If you stay in and “believe” – you will apply Hubbard’s Laws of Commotion, Confusion and Chaos where you will find one of hundreds of excuses why Scientology does not work – no lasting results other than levels of unawareness.
Mark EP says
Good one, RB.
And even if you are old and out pulling weeds, you still have to make your IAS quotas.
Probably a lot less yelling rhough.
Mary Kahn says
Oh Wow. I laughed out loud at the first then I cried out loud. Extremely sad.
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