RB has a family commitment this week, so I have pulled out a crowd favorite from 2015 — the timeless nature of these RB strips is a great reflection on the “stuck in time” nature of scientology. Wedded to the words of L. Ron Hubbard, it’s Groundhog Day all over again….
Shirley Hubbert says
I know this is off topic…Happy Birthday. Leah !!
mk says
the timeless nature of these RB strips is a great reflection on the “stuck in time” nature of scientology. Wedded to the words of L. Ron Hubbard, it’s Groundhog Day all over again….
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I love these little insights, thank you.
WhatAreYourCrimes says
One bunk-bed, two mattresses, and four nitwits. Sea Org in a nutshell.
Old Surfer Dude says
Maybe they like sleeping together.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
One of the thoughts I’ve had in the last decade or so is that being fully exterior should allow one to be anyplace they want in space and time Now, THAT’s a superpower I would be willing to pay for, if scn could/would deliver on any of their promises. i’m now certain that neither Tubby nor Dwarfenführer would have delivered a Book 1 Clear IF it were possible. They were/are having too much fun playing their domination games: forcing folks to toe the lines they redraw at whim.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
Ohhh! If were only possible for the “kelly”s of SCN to HAVE such realizations…. A bit of wishful thinking in that set of panels. Realistically, I doubt that Kelly would trash that garbage while she could be observed and KRed. She might be disillusioned, but she would still fear the MAA until she’s run away and forged a new, independent life. Until such folks have an unassailable position, they’ll fear the wrath of OSA, of course, so they’ll avoid possible KRs whenever near anyone still in the scn bubble. LONG after Clearwater became small in my rearview mirrors, I didn’t say anything critical of the organization , just in case. Still, I’ve never called it a “church” except sarcastically. Never did accept the whole church thang except as a tax and legal dodge.
Truth be told, I’m still a bit nervous about my many recentreferences to “Tubby” and “Dwarfenführer”. They can’t do much to my livelihood or neighborhood reputation with any of the tools I’ve heard of them using. Heck, if they do the squirrel-busters thing, I think I could get the local papers to play up Scientology beating up on a poor old cripple who’s lived in this town for almost forever. I know most of the politicians and O/Ls; went to school with most of them back when we had to beat off the dinosaurs. DANG, those beasts had bad breath!
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
Oops, a typo:”recentreferences” should have been recent references, but my machine’s getting tempermental in its old age ( heavily beaten through its 20 years’ age.)
Gordon Weir says
Travolta with his face lift and wigs looks terrible. Because of his bizarre appearance I think his box office appeal is gone.
Old Surfer Dude says
He’s also looking a bit plump. But, it’s still all beautiful, right John?
Wynski says
Way off topic: John Travolta’s “Gotti” Movie Is the $9.99 All You Can Eat Buffet Version of “Goodfellas”
“I guess Scientology is like the Mafia, so the Travolta’s know their material.”
http://www.showbiz411.com/2018/06/15/review-john-travoltas-gotti-movie-is-as-bad-as-you-thought-the-all-you-can-eat-buffet-version-of-goodfellas
xenu's son says
0 tomatoes on the rotten tomato scale.
A feat only 17 movies have been able to pull off.
Even Battlefield Earth got 3%
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gotti_2018/
Seems anything related to the few robots who are still left in Scientology is going into full scale dementia.
unelectedfllofgoofer says
Scientology thrives by stealing their staff members’ best years, when they have the most energy and passion. Typically also the ages when physicists and mathematicians do their most productive work.
Alcoboy says
OK, Kelly! Time to make a run for it!
Can’t survive in the ‘wog world ‘?
Old Surfer Dude says
She can’t. She had a moment of liquid clarity.
Alcoboy says
True, true. This looks like a job for the Aftermath Foundation!
Old Surfer Dude says
ABSOLUTELY!
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
Go, Kelly GO! Even if you land a job that has you working just as hard and nearly as long hours, you actually get PAID relative to your skills and production, and they can’t throw you into a gulag for some trivial reason. AND, there actually is a thing called justice, where it’s possible to be found innocent of charges against you. In SCN, you’re always guilty of the charges, no matter what evidence you can produce to the contrary. Was part of a Comm Ev about some “out-2D”. Since all on the panel thought punishing them for behavior we’d each enjoyed before the SO as consenting single adults, we thought to not convict, but the convening authority nixed that. Warped standards, to say the least. nothing that couldpossibly be construed as sexual activity unless you’re married. Even the Puritans weren’t that aberrated. Two marriages later, I believe that getting married without determining that you’re sexually compatible is a foolish undertaking. Reviewing the behaviors of Tubby and Dwarfenführer, each of them would have been RPF’d in a SO that operated on the rule of law. BUT of course, the head honchos are not subject to the rules they lay down. Did Tubby ever not take up with his personal assistant? Dwarfenführer: Where’s your wife? Is her name Lou, or Shelly? What happens if your current lay gets pregnant? OR, are you even capable of causing such due to your stature?[Yup, I’m snippy tonight.]
Wynski says
If only the last panel EVER happened.
Old Surfer Dude says
Me too. Sad…
Donna C May says
What is ” havingness?” I don’t believe you will find the definition in the dictionary and I am pretty sure it is not a commonly used word out side of COS.
Old Surfer Dude says
The ability to ‘have.’
Simi Valley says
You can see the $cn definition here:
http://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part14/Chp50/pg1021-b.html
Alcoboy says
It’s not. ‘Havingness ‘ is one of those words unique to Scientology. It means a state of possession of something. The proper scale is to first ‘ be’, then ‘do’, and then you will ‘have’.
Are you confused yet?
As an independent Scientologist, I’ll just say that that’s normal.
If I were still in the church, I would tell you to go clear your MUs.
Confused even more?
Miss Q says
MUs = made-up words ?
Old Surfer Dude says
?!
Cat W. says
‘Havingness’ is one of those words unique to Scientology.
It’s not unique to Scientology. I believe it started in Scientology (though Hubbard may have taken it from someone else, as he did with so much else). It spread from there, however. Lewis Bostwick, who founded Berkeley Psychic Institute, borrowed the terms “havingness” and “knowingness” from Scientology, so anyone trained by any of his schools is familiar with those terms. From there it spread to all the New Age groups that borrowed from the BPI model and into the general New Age culture.
“Havingness” always bugged me, because it was so obviously made up to focus people on the prosperity gospel of New Age pseudo-philosophy. It’s hard to find a term for translating it. In BPI, they read a “havingness gauge” so that how much you have is a direct function of this supposed “ability.” This idea warps people’s minds. It drastically distorts any human values they may have had. It makes people incapable of seeing cultural, economic, and political forces, and it robs them of any compassion or understanding for those less fortunate than themselves. All the responsibility is on the individual for not “raising their havingness.” Makes me sick.
Hubbard may have been riffing on “beingness” which I think was used among Buddhists and philosophers before him. I haven’t researched that, though. I just have encountered less toxic, less thought-control versions of “beingness” in other contexts.
PeaceMaker says
It’s always worth checking a bit more deeply – more often than not, Hubbard just got something from somewhere else, and something earlier, and often because someone else brought it to his attention:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=havingness&year_start=1800&year_end=2000
“Havingness” first shows up between 1870 and 1880, around the time of the New Thought movement, Theosophy, etc. – all things from which Hubbard borrowed extensively. It then shows up again around 1930, when, prior to Hubbard, others were starting to rework ideas from the movements at the end of the previous century. It appears to have started out as an attempt to more or less literally translate a German term. Beingness seems to have originated around the same, time, trying to do something similar with Greek and Buddhist words.
As Ava Berner (who, along with her husband Charles, introduced the idea for “study tech”) said, Hubbard never invented much of anything himself, he just relied on others around him to bring him ideas – including ideas from other books and disciplines, as he apparently didn’t have much patience for reading and studying. The more I look into things, and find all these earlier roots for almost everything, the more I think that is largely true.
Cat W. says
Hey, PeaceMaker, thanks for looking that up. You’re right I probably should have done that earlier. I was mostly talking about my impressions about how the usage spread around in my area (N. California) during recent decades. I’d only heard people from BPI-type trainings use the word “havingness,” but it became more common in general New Age culture, mostly (as far as I could tell) spreading from those people “trained as psychics.” Then when I started paying more attention to Scientology, I discovered that they also used that word in the same way. Later I discovered that the founder of BPI was in Scientology briefly during its earliest years (though he also liberally borrowed from the Rosicrucians, Theosophists and Freemasons).
My critique of the effect of the usage and application of the word, especially by BPI and Scientology, still stands, however.
Newcomer says
Yo Dave,
Hers yer havingness quota for the day:
Lots of starving, sleep depraved sheeple working for pennies an hour and convinced they are saving the planet by following dear leader into the abyss.
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
Minor correction: Lots of Lemmings jumping into the abyss. Past a certain point they aren’t as smart as sheep/sheeple
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
A straight Google brings up an acceptable definition of havingness as result #1.
PeaceMaker says
If you go to the OED entry, they shows its use dating back to the 17th century:
havingness
NOUN
rare
1Covetousness, possessiveness.
2The fact or state of having or possessing something.
Origin
Mid 17th century. From having + -ness.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/havingness
civmar says
Since Jimmy brought up Haiti and Travolta flying his plane there,
In Jan,2010 just after the big earthquake I was in Haiti as a civilian employee of the US Navy in support of reconstruction in the Port-au-Prince harbor.
One day I watched a private jet landing at the airport with my friend BJ, who is Black, ,and we had the following conversation:
BJ: It must be Wycliffe!
Me: Who?
BJ: Wycliffe John, the rap star.
Me: Never heard of him.
BJ: Come on, Katz, he’s world famous, you must have heard of him.
Me: Nope,
BJ: Well, I know who Jimmy Buffet is. I don’t know any of his songs, but I know who he is!
Jere Lull (37 years recovering) says
who IS “Wycliffe John”, really? I’m married to a poet and long-time English Lit professor who has somewhat tutored me about what proper poetry sounds like, as well as being a musician in my youth, Rap is something that I just can’t find any interest in; a bunch of random phrases all ending with the same sound isn’t poetry or music.Hasn’t been any decent “pop” music recorded since the ’80s. which was when I switched to talk radio and CNN. I totally missed MTV and similar. These days, I’m pretty much glued to Science channel, with a few Showtime series for the scenery.